LeBron's Failures Only Enhance Kobe's Legacy

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In any NBA fan's heart of hearts, we all know Kobe is the best right now. TD is more accomplished, slightly, but Kobe been that dude since '98. Duncan playing with two Hall of Famers the last few years, Hall of Fame coach basically his whole career, and in the last 4-5 season shows up in the playoffs. If Kobe doesn't average 25 ppg or better the Lakers don't even make the playoffs. We're only having this conversation because the Lakers didn't get CP3. The audacity of you nikkaz to call yourselves basketball fans :scust:

Not Duncans fault Kobe couldnt keep Shaq and Gasol
Not Duncans fault Kobe couldnt keep Phil Jackson
Not Duncans fault the Lakers cant get free agents
Not Duncans fault the more Kobe actually does the less the Lakers actually succeed.
 

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Not Duncans fault Kobe couldnt keep Shaq and Gasol
Not Duncans fault Kobe couldnt keep Phil Jackson
Not Duncans fault the Lakers cant get free agents
Not Duncans fault the more Kobe actually does the less the Lakers actually succeed.


Yes, agreed, but what does that have to do with Duncan being able to make the playoffs average 15 ppg? :mjlol: Kobe's jealous of Duncan's career because he's had the same coach and same nucleus going on a good 7-10 years now. Not because Duncan is a better player :heh: You nikkaz kill me man :deadrose: I guess Larry Bird is a better player than Kobe as well :heh:
 

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WHAT legacy? I didn't want to throw out facts, but it appears the only way you Lakers fans will comprehend is when everything is thrown out there.

Kobe Bryant, without a HOF big man in his prime on the roster has a 154-150 team record as "The Man" and will certainly dip below .500 once this season drags out. He is not an easy guy to play with. He is a "winner" because he has benefited from having Shaq, Dwight, and Pau Gasol in their primes playing alongside him.

When those pieces were gone? He has ZERO rings and 1 MVP award (played most of the year without Gasol)

Meanwhile, Jordan never had a HOF big during his title runs

Dirk won a championship with an old JKidd and no offensive game Chandler helping him.
:dead:One of the dumbest smart dumb Nikka post I've ever seen in the coli:banderas:
 

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:dead:One of the dumbest smart dumb Nikka post I've ever seen in the coli:banderas:
prove me wrong

Kobe is now 154-151 when it comes to W-L records as "The Man" and no Hall of Fame caliber big man on the squad. The second best SG in NBA history is about to leave the game with an under .500 record as "The Man"

Kobe is not in the same league when it comes to individual accomplishments compared to LeBron.
 

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prove me wrong

Kobe is now 154-151 when it comes to W-L records as "The Man" and no Hall of Fame caliber big man on the squad. The second best SG in NBA history is about to leave the game with an under .500 record as "The Man"

Kobe is not in the same league when it comes to individual accomplishments compared to LeBron.
Lol like it wasn't cuz of Kobe pau became a hall of famer instead of him being remembered as a perennial under achiever never having won a playoff game without Kobe. Embarrassing someone so stupid can is a staff member
 

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Lol like it wasn't cuz of Kobe pau became a hall of famer instead of him being remembered as a perennial under achiever never having won a playoff game without Kobe. Embarrassing someone so stupid can is a staff member

lol like it wasnt cuz of pau kobe was getting past the first round after being Steve Nashs bytch two years straight, and not even making the playoffs one year :sas2:

from a legacy standpoint, kobe needed pau more than pau needed kobe, call me a liar :sas1:
 

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lol like it wasnt cuz of pau kobe was getting past the first round after being Steve Nashs bytch two years straight, and not even making the playoffs one year :sas2:

from a legacy standpoint, kobe needed pau more than pau needed kobe, call me a liar :sas1:
Lakers were in first place in west that season before pau trade we don't know what would have happened :sas2:.Plus remember Kobe shytting on sp*rs that playoffs too :sas1:
 

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Kobestans still haven't realized that every criticism they lay on other players can be applied to him as well.

The few that do realize the hypocrisy start qualifying the shyt out of Kobe's accomplishments, saying crap like, "TD never won a title with a teammate that weighed over 300 lbs".

:mjcry:

My planted sources in #LWO tell me that the kobestans actually disagree on how to deal with such issues. Most of them were instructed to stop arguing with @Malta because he's so mean.

:mjcry:

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Liquid said:
WHAT legacy? I didn't want to throw out facts, but it appears the only way you Lakers fans will comprehend is when everything is thrown out there.

Remember, YOU asked for this:sas1:

Kobe Bryant, without a HOF big man in his prime on the roster has a 154-150 team record as "The Man" and will certainly dip below .500 once this season drags out. He is not an easy guy to play with. He is a "winner" because he has benefited from having Shaq, Dwight, and Pau Gasol in their primes playing alongside him.

Michael Jordan, without another HOF wing in his prime on the roster, had a 182-228 team record as "The Man" and finished 46 games below .500 for his career. He was not an easy guy to play with. He was known as a "winner" because he benefited from having Pippen and Rodman in their primes playing alongside him....both at the same damn time at 1 point.

When those pieces were gone? He has ZERO rings and 1 MVP award (played most of the year without Gasol)


When those pieces were gone? He has ZERO rings and 0 MVP awards period.

Meanwhile, Jordan never had a HOF big during his title runs

Meanwhile, Kobe never had a HOF perimeter player during his title runs.

Dirk won a championship with an old JKidd and no offensive game Chandler helping him.

Hakeem won a championship with Vernon Maxwell and Kenny Smith helping him

prove me wrong

I am:sas2:

Kobe is now 154-151 when it comes to W-L records as "The Man" and no Hall of Fame caliber big man on the squad. The second best SG in NBA history is about to leave the game with an under .500 record as "The Man"

Jordan was 182-228 when it comes to W-L records as "The Man" and no Hall of Fame caliber wing man on the squad. The best SG in NBA history left the game with an under .500 record as "The Man"





You lost:umad:




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Duncan just won a national championship seven months ago. Of course, they're still high off the Spurs and Kobe is an afterthought. Ask this question 10 years from now. This is no different than Miami winning the championship in 2013 and the world being ready to say Lebron was close/better than Jordan but in 2014 they fell back from that talk :whoa: You talking real tough for a guy who spent his life losing to Shaq/Kobe in the playoffs. The reason yall championships are far apart and never consecutive is because LA made life hard for yall :mjcry: You also talking real tough for a guy who's was the 3rd best player on his squad last year. No Tony Parker hitting those graceful elegant finger rolls, no Khawi Leonard hustling all over the court making plays forcing turnovers, where are you :mjlol: Oh yea....and who was the seven foot tall power forward who missed a wide open layup in Game 7 :mjlol:

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That what happens when you depend on washed up power forwards in the closing minutes. Thank god Tony and Khawi stepped it up last year :sas2:
:gladbron::gladbron::gladbron:THREAD :mjcry:
 

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Remember, YOU asked for this:sas1:



Michael Jordan, without another HOF wing in his prime on the roster, had a 182-228 team record as "The Man" and finished 46 games below .500 for his career. He was not an easy guy to play with. He was known as a "winner" because he benefited from having Pippen and Rodman in their primes playing alongside him....both at the same damn time at 1 point.




When those pieces were gone? He has ZERO rings and 0 MVP awards period.



Meanwhile, Kobe never had a HOF perimeter player during his title runs.



Hakeem won a championship with Vernon Maxwell and Kenny Smith helping him



I am:sas2:



Jordan was 182-228 when it comes to W-L records as "The Man" and no Hall of Fame caliber wing man on the squad. The best SG in NBA history left the game with an under .500 record as "The Man"





You lost:umad:




#LWO

so you basically knocking MJ for creating and sticking with Pippen and winning rings vs kobe bytching and moaning and getting already prime big name players coming to him?? really??

if kobe were back in the 80s and playing the pistons he probably would have cried back then too and wanted to get karl malone and hakeem traded to his team
 

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so you basically knocking MJ for creating and sticking with Pippen and winning rings vs kobe bytching and moaning and getting already prime big name players coming to him?? really??

if kobe were back in the 80s and playing the pistons he probably would have cried back then too and wanted to get karl malone and hakeem traded to his team
Are we still on this "mike created everything about the 1989-1998 bulls" story? No credit to the organization for getting great talent or for the COACHES for developing talent and putting them into position to succeed, you know like coaches are supposed to do?
 
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