LexDiamonds
Superstar
How? He's built a winner from the ground up. Best Player, coach, and GM
LeGM > Pat Riley
- Thread starter Dr. Narcisse
- Start date
We all know that wasn't the initial offer. That was them trying to save face and Wade told them his price and Riley wouldnt match
Y'all really don't understand the disrespect involved there? And Riley wasn't even talking to Wade this whole time ? shyt is disgusting
Wade gave that franchise everything
Microfracture
Real G's move in silence
Riley called Wade's bluff for 2 straight summers and lost both times. Only reason a deal got done last year was because Arison came thru and smoothed it over. Maybe Riley will finally realize that he can't treat his franchise players like college kids.
Fixed
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
wade has be been holed up in europe with lebron and his wife the past couple weeks, and probably talks to his agent everyday. those aren't people who were steering him to re-sign with miami. his agent wants the biggest deal possible for obvious reasons, lebron wants wade to bounce to screw over riley and gabby has her man's back no matter what. a long distance phone call from riley wouldve solved nothing
beat Don Riles
at his own game
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
im willing to shyt on Riley for his tenure and luck in having Wade, but this point is silly. Wade was not a sure thing at all in 2003 and could have dropped lower.
I give Riley credit for drafting Wade because it was not a slam dunk at all.
That was actually my point. He was gonna take Bosh. So it's not that he saw the diamond in the rough and took a chance on him. He fell to him. Heat get the 4th pick and the last 13 years look a lot different.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Bosh is also a HOF player tho?
IDK, i agree with your overall point but that was just as petty as Riley's treatment of Wade.
I wouldn't have paid Wade that much either. Nothing about Wade staying in Miami would help top Free Agents come at this point in his career even if he got what he wanted and they werent going to be a championship caliber team regardless so why pay more than you are willing to? Truth be told, I think Riley wanted Wade to stay if he could get him cheap and want him out if he demanded that much and for Bosh to never play for Miami again either. No scenario about Wade being there makes them competitive worthy of the money paid. Its a cut your losses deal.
Is he as good as Wade? Was he gonna take over and lead them to a chip in 06? Was he tight enough with Bron to convince him to come down? We can't act like shyt would be the same if they get Bosh instead of Wade.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
we dont know. Im just talking about how their careers have born out.
Wade coulda been the one in anonymity in Toronto or his career coulda gone Rudy Gay route.
Im not gonna dismiss the Wade pick by saying, "he was lucky the ping pong balls went a certain way." Thats all.
End of the day, Wade was the most important person in Heat history, not Pat Riley. We can both agree with that.
But you can dismiss Wade's greatness by suggesting that it was contingent on circumstance?
We know Wade was a better, more impactful player than Bosh and no matter where either of them might have played this is true.If you dont see how getting the most important person in franchise history when you actually preferred an inferior player over him is luck, I dont know what to tell you.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I didnt dismiss Wade's greatness. I am saying we have no idea of anything.But you can dismiss Wade's greatness by suggesting that it was contingent on circumstance?
If you dont see how getting the most important person in franchise history when you actually preferred an inferior player over him is luck, I dont know what to tell you.
Of course Wade is better than Bosh. I didnt say otherwise.
All I am saying is the Heat coulda passed on Wade and picked TJ Ford or Mike Sweetney, and it would not have been a crazy decision in 2003. I give Riley credit for making the pick because it was not a slam dunk. Thats all.
We know he's better and that's all I was saying.
Wade was still a highly rated player. Nobody thought it was crazy to pick him then either. You do make a good point though
. He was still lucky that he didn't have to pick between Wade and Bosh and that he wasn't left with those guys that you mentioned. He picked in the perfect spot. He picks any higher or lower and there is likely no Wade. I generally don't give GMs credit for drafting highly touted players in the lottery.
