Lets admit it... 95% of women are HORRiBLE conversationalists...

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Bars/lounges/public places to meet girls... too much of a gamble. If your social circle is good and you are a well connected person you should have a good selection of eligible women just in your social circle

I mean if just sex is the goal, then conversation isn't important, unless you can't even get through a convo w/a jumpoff. If convo's an issue then its prob about more than sex, which begs the question why you are looking for anything even remotely serious from a stranger. No TLR dude but its a gamble, chicks are crazy, I wouldn't date anyone who wasn't previously vetted by people I trust or that I didn't know anything about

Bottom line though, real talk, real spit, one hundred thousand million, successful people don't make excuses, blame everyone else for their problems and then wait for those same people to solve em. So for all the dudes complaining about women but not doing shyt to elevate or better themselves.... you generally get what you deserve/put out :manny:
It depends on your circle, it has to reflect you as well.
 

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Bars/lounges/public places to meet girls... too much of a gamble. If your social circle is good and you are a well connected person you should have a good selection of eligible women just in your social circle

I mean if just sex is the goal, then conversation isn't important, unless you can't even get through a convo w/a jumpoff. If convo's an issue then its prob about more than sex, which begs the question why you are looking for anything even remotely serious from a stranger. No TLR dude but its a gamble, chicks are crazy, I wouldn't date anyone who wasn't previously vetted by people I trust or that I didn't know anything about

Bottom line though, real talk, real spit, one hundred thousand million, successful people don't make excuses, blame everyone else for their problems and then wait for those same people to solve em. So for all the dudes complaining about women but not doing shyt to elevate or better themselves.... you generally get what you deserve/put out :manny:

I'm the opposite. I like meeting random broads, inviting them for a drink/coffee and experiencing a new conversation, a new thought. A lot of times it's not even a sex thing. Just staying in my own social circle can get old. Every city or town I'm in I try to meet women and people and build connections and relationships. Even the crazy people are great because it's new story to tell.
 

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I never liked my social circle to be all in my private business and know the girl Im going with personally. they take sides and get in your business something serious. meeting new people is good, it just means that you have to check them yourself
 

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Why would you want to talk to her about either topic? Both topic suck and I don't want to talk back either. When I talk to broads it is about their lives and mines. Where do you hang out? Whachu doing? Whats going on next week? Well i'm doing this? Oh never been there, its similar to whatever? Oh I remember I was here I got this story that happened. You flirt and keep it relevant to whatever it is you're doing in your lives and if she is lame then you tell her your war stories, she will be impressed. Building intimacy and a connection is the point. Not to talk about the latest news and television shows. And the girls you're conversing should know the deal. If not, then control the conversation.

Damn summed it up perfectly. Got to learn how to control the conversation. I usually quickly tell an "embarrassing" story about myself or something that shows I don't take myself too seriously and that will get them laughing. Once that wall is down conversation flows. It's all of matter of getting that wall down as early as possible. Make the conversation personal and let it flow from there.
 

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I'm the opposite. I like meeting random broads, inviting them for a drink/coffee and experiencing a new conversation, a new thought. A lot of times it's not even a sex thing. Just staying in my own social circle can get old. Every city or town I'm in I try to meet women and people and build connections and relationships. Even the crazy people are great because it's new story to tell.
It is good to meet new people. I admit I have fallen off with that over the last few years.
 

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Damn summed it up perfectly. Got to learn how to control the conversation. I usually quickly tell an "embarrassing" story about myself or something that shows I don't take myself too seriously and that will get them laughing. Once that wall is down conversation flows. It's all of matter of getting that wall down as early as possible. Make the conversation personal and let it flow from there.

its hilarious how people don't know how to talk to each other anymore. Meeting new people and conversing is one of the simple pleasures in life.

And on average i'll say many girls DON'T have much to talk about. The term "social vampire" was used in this topic and i think that's accurate. Its not just females its people in general. Every convo doesn't have to be about politics or nothing deep, just like some one said trade war stories...experiences. Most people don't know how to do that. But again most people hate themselfs or things they have done...

I'm very blunt, and i have no issue talking about ANYTHING about myself. People love to talk about themselves but only on vague surface levels, its disgusting. I mean...iv'e had a chick say "omg i love Wiz"...i ask "why" she couldn't even construct a HALF-WAY coherent answer...thats fukking pitiful
 

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Imma go out on a limb and remind ya'll that women were oppressed for a very very long time. As a whole, they haven't caught up yet. #imjustsaying

its hilarious how people don't know how to talk to each other anymore. Meeting new people and conversing is one of the simple pleasures in life.

And on average i'll say many girls DON'T have much to talk about. The term "social vampire" was used in this topic and i think that's accurate. Its not just females its people in general. Every convo doesn't have to be about politics or nothing deep, just like some one said trade war stories...experiences. Most people don't know how to do that. But again most people hate themselfs or things they have done...

I'm very blunt, and i have no issue talking about ANYTHING about myself. People love to talk about themselves but only on vague surface levels, its disgusting. I mean...iv'e had a chick say "omg i love Wiz"...i ask "why" she couldn't even construct a HALF-WAY coherent answer...thats fukking pitiful
I would c/s this, but breaking the ice to talk about anything is much harder in this day in age. Conversations were the most pleasurable part of actively participating in society, now people can look down a their cell phones and read a bunch of trash and be satisfied. Too much stimulation... people are drunk off of over extending their attention span.
 

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its hilarious how people don't know how to talk to each other anymore. Meeting new people and conversing is one of the simple pleasures in life.

And on average i'll say many girls DON'T have much to talk about. The term "social vampire" was used in this topic and i think that's accurate. Its not just females its people in general. Every convo doesn't have to be about politics or nothing deep, just like some one said trade war stories...experiences. Most people don't know how to do that. But again most people hate themselfs or things they have done...

I'm very blunt, and i have no issue talking about ANYTHING about myself. People love to talk about themselves but only on vague surface levels, its disgusting. I mean...iv'e had a chick say "omg i love Wiz"...i ask "why" she couldn't even construct a HALF-WAY coherent answer...thats fukking pitiful


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I would c/s this, but breaking the ice to talk about anything is much harder in this day in age. Conversations were the most pleasurable part of actively participating in society, now people can look down a their cell phones and read a bunch of trash and be satisfied. Too much stimulation... people are drunk off of over extending their attention span.

I really don't think it's hard to break the ice and talk. People are yearning to engage and be acknowledged, that's why things like FB and twitter and message boards like this exist. It's not that they don't want to or are too distracted or have too much stimulation, its that they don't know how and aren't too confident.
 

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Imma go out on a limb and remind ya'll that women were oppressed for a very very long time. As a whole, they haven't caught up yet. #imjustsaying


I would c/s this, but breaking the ice to talk about anything is much harder in this day in age. Conversations were the most pleasurable part of actively participating in society, now people can look down a their cell phones and read a bunch of trash and be satisfied. Too much stimulation... people are drunk off of over extending their attention span.

its not that hard, i mean seriously. Harder..yeah. But still not hard. I mean simple clues to a person are obvious. A chick reading book...ask what its about...if she's worth her salt she'll be able to break it down. Sometimes a comment on a convo she has with her and her girls is a way in...anything. its nothing to drop a comment and keep it moving. After you initial comment its up to them to continue. I agree to an extent that phones and what not made it worse, but i still think people would rather be talked to in person.

Non-verbals are so much more telling of a person.
 

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I've met a few I actually enjoy talking to, and they were on their way to being wifed up already when I met them :cry:

one had a fat ol ass too :cry:
 
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i generally dont give a shyt about small talk nor do i care about making more friends i have enough friends,finding out about random peoples lives dont really interest me:zzz: i barely care whats goign on in the livea of my people none the less fukkin strangers:russ:

With that said the key is to pretend you give a shyt when it comes to women which i can do quite well let a nikka talk about herself and make her laugh and shell hand you the puss

The "friend zone" is mostly about looks if a broad aint somewhat into you physically from the jump chances are you staying in the friend zone 999 times out of 100
 
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False. It depends on the person. My BF talks to me about everything because I have an interest in pretty much everything. I read all day when I'm not working.

I had to stop talking to a guy once because he was so damn boring. I guess he was like the men on this site, thinking women like to talk about nothing so why attempt to participate in the conversation.

most girls that say they like certain things guys like (video games, politics, certain type of music guys would be more into whatever) seem really cool at first then in my experience you always eventually realize thats shes into these things not because she enjoys them but because it gives her a certain kind of image more than anything
 
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Most of the men I've been with?

Most men become interested in me based on us talking first and even if nothing comes from it, they still want to be friends because they like my personality.

Why do women believe this shyt? No man wants to be your friend.

It's all about an outcome at the end of the day...be it sex or a relationship.
 
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