Lets all give props to Putin for averting WW III!!

[Suicide King]

support autocrats brehs

What am I missing? Its not good to solve problems through diplomatic means?

Wars will always happen.
Regimes will always be imperfect.

But we do need a balance of super powers.

 

[No1]

Why should we give props to a tyrant who just wants the international community to back off so Assad can continue spending Russia's money slaughtering people who disagree with him? It's a good thing if it helps prevent military engagement, but that's incidental, and no reason to give props to Putin.

I'll add and re-post what I said in the syria thread from a NYTimes commentator

"We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos."

For over two years, Russia has blocked every UN intervention proposed to stop Assad's slaughter of 100,000 Syrian people, the creation of 2,000,000 refugees fleeing their own country and over 6,000,000 Syrians displaced from their own homes, all along supplying Assad with state of the art weaponry.

During this period, when Russia and Syria worked against the United Nations, ignoring the pleas of human rights organizations and the US and the EU to negotiate a political solution with the Free Syria movement, Al Quaeda fighters from every corner of the globe took advantage and entered Syria. Al Nusra Front, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in Syria is largely the result of that.

In a UN report recently released documenting the horrendous use of chemical weapons in Syria, one attack, among the smallest, has been linked to the rebels while every other one, and there have been many, have been found to have been directly released by the Assad government.

This is a beautifully written piece but it ignores years of Russian obstruction of UN intervention.

However, I applaud President Putin's move toward the UN and President Obama's, also. If the Syrian people are to be saved, it will be at the UN. How unfortunate that two long, brutal years have been wasted.

 

[Madvillain]

it's not necessarily about being pro Russia or Syria, it's about letting Syria handle it's own fukking problems instead of spending AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS to fight someone else's battle.

at this very moment, Syrian rebels are being armed by the CIA..

GET IT?

AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS ARE FUNDING TERRORIST GROUPS THAT ARE DIRECTLY LINKED TO AL fukkING QAEDA

you guys are impossible, anything to be down with the winning team, even if it means letting our own citizens starve so we can fund someone else's bullshyt.

lmao the problem is though, most of the laymen watching this don't get that difference you just painted. You don't have to take sides to be anti-war.

 

[thekingsmen]

WW3 isn't prevented, it's postponed. Israel wants it so bad, they will start it if they need to.

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

I kind of feel bad for Obama. No matter what he does people will always demonize him even though it's clear he's trying to do the right thing. Unlike his predecessor he never invaded countries for his personal/political benefits. The Libyan people asked for help to over throw a tyrant and we did just that and got the fukk out of there. No the Syrian people are asking for help and Obama is getting criticized for doing the humane thing. 99% of Muslims aren't terrorists and helping some of these Muslim countries get rid of there dictators might actually be beneficial to the US because the number one tool a terrorist organization has is recruiting people who hate America. If we go in there and get rid of Asad I find it hard to believe that the Syrian people will somehow become terrorists who will attack America.

It's sad that the Right and Russians are brainwashing people into thinking Asad is a good guy and is the only person who can keep Syrians together. Guys like Asad is why the Middle East hates us because we hand picked these dictators and put them in power for our personal agendas instead of letting the democratic process take it's course. No Obama want's to undo that and people are bashing him for it. Reality is that people want to live in peace and that's no different in the Middle East.

 

[NZA]

Thank God Russia stood up to this tyrant Obama and helped avert another catastrophy courtesy of the US government. And YES I realize that Putin and the Russian government has a very demonic history, especially that pertaining to black people, but the reality of the situation is that Putin was able to prevent another irrational Obama action.

Lets give props to Putin when its due. Especially the classic way he sonned the US public and the government in that NY Times Op Ed. Straight fukking ether he spit there.

i was against involvement in syria, but im not going to be openly praising someone who even you admit is demonic toward black people (and he's demonic in many other ways as well).

what's wrong with you, breh? you always jump out the window on shyt. cant you ever just have a nuanced opinion on anything?

 

[Matt504]

I kind of feel bad for Obama. No matter what he does people will always demonize him even though it's clear he's trying to do the right thing. Unlike his predecessor he never invaded countries for his personal/political benefits. The Libyan people asked for help to over throw a tyrant and we did just that and got the fukk out of there. No the Syrian people are asking for help and Obama is getting criticized for doing the humane thing. 99% of Muslims aren't terrorists and helping some of these Muslim countries get rid of there dictators might actually be beneficial to the US because the number tool a terrorist organization has is recruiting people who hate America. If we go in there and get rid of Asad I find it hard to believe that the Syrian people will somehow become terrorists who will attack America.

It's sad that the Right and Russians are brainwashing people into thinking Asad is a good guy and is the only person who can keep Syrians together. Guys like Asad is why the Middle East hates us because we hand picked these dictators and put them in power for our personal agendas instead of letting the democratic process take it's course. No Obama want's to undo that and people are bashing him for it. Reality is that people want to live in peace and that's no different in the Middle East.

these are the people we're arming with our tax dollars as our public schools close due to lack of funding.

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

these are the people we're arming with our tax dollars as our public schools close due to lack of funding.

This is the Regime the US put in power without the support of the Syrian people.



Either way breh stuff like that happens in war and the Syrian/Middle East thing isn't going to just go away if the US decides to turn a blind eye to it. It's time to face the music breh, we created this Middle East mess by putting these US foot soldiers in charge and it ain't going away until we correct it by giving power back to the citizens of the Middle East. Terrorism happens when there are a lot of pissed off recruits who feel they were wronged. Most Muslims just want to live in peace and that's not going to happen as long these US puppets are still in power in the Middle East and killing there own people. The Syrian people are eventually gonna over throw the Asad regime with or without the help of the US. It's all about if the US wants to be on the right side of history for a change.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

i was against involvement in syria, but im not going to be openly praising someone who even you admit is demonic toward black people (and he's demonic in many other ways as well).

what's wrong with you, breh? you always jump out the window on shyt. cant you ever just have a nuanced opinion on anything?

Ok, there is a bit of conjecture in my initial post, but the point still stands that Putin helped thwart another World War. Something no in our congress was brave enough to do. Its pathetic that it took PUTIN to call out the BS going on here.

 

[Tunez]

Go to war with Syria, lose to Syria and have Israel save us

 

[Matt504]

This is the Regime the US put in power without the support of the Syrian people.



Either way breh stuff like that happens in war and the Syrian/Middle East thing isn't going to just go away if the US decides to turn a blind eye to it. It's time to face the music breh, we created this Middle East mess by putting these US foot soldiers in charge and it ain't going away until we correct it by giving power back to the citizens of the Middle East. Terrorism happens when there are a lot of pissed off recruits who feel they were wronged. Most Muslims just want to live in peace and that's not going to happen as long these US puppets are still in power in the Middle East and killing there own people.

so you acknowledge that the US created this mess, and you somehow think that we can fix it by arming terrorists connected to Al Qaeda because Obama wants to fix everything back to the way it was before we installed hand picked puppets?

 

[Chris.B]

Assad is better that the alternative

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

so you acknowledge that the US created this mess, and you somehow think that we can fix it by arming terrorists connected to Al Qaeda because Obama wants to fix everything back to the way it was before we installed hand picked puppets?

This is your first problem. You refer to everyone in the Middle East as if there terrorist. 99% of the people there aren't terrorist and it's clear the majority of Syrians want Asad gone. Like I said breh Terrorism happens when there are a lot of pissed of recruits who feel they were wronged. Terrorist organizations need recruits to survive and the more the US keeps demonizing the entire Middle East the more recruiters there will be. Economic conditions in the Middle East are terrible and the general population is being hurt the most by it because the dictators put into power by the US are using all the money on themselves. That's why there are backlashes because the people want a legitimate government that actually helps out there own people. But people on the Right and Russia are trying to make it a Terrorism/Islam thing for there own agenda.

 

[OsO]

STAN FASCIST THUGS WHO POISON CRITICAL JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL OPPONENTS, BREHS!

what has the US done to its opponents breh?

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

Assad is better that the alternative

Asad isn't going to be in power next year. From the outside Asad looks great but try living in Syria under his dictatorship and see just how great he is. Middle East dominos are falling because they were never put into place to serve the citizens. This is simply a choice of do you want to be on the right side of History or on the wrong side of it. The Middle East was stable before we went in there and put these dictator puppets in power so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to return to it again.