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nikkas told me ant was the face of the league now what happened?
Let's be honest about what the NBA's biggest problem is now. Zion Williamson and Ja Morant failed to step into roles the league was preparing them for
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You should have made this thread earlier in the week
last night was the first big night of all the young teams having amazing games and the old stars looking completely
at the same time. The shift is happening this year.
The conversation has definitely moved on from Zion, Ja can gain momentum back he just has to move to a bigger market city
This thread is overlooking how much the market of the city matters
Case and point :
Now imagine if Joker played in New York, Gianni's was in LA....
Yea Boston has a winning history but the actual city of Boston isn't on anyone's media radar like that
The chase for parity hurt the league's promotion more than anything, Silver folded to the small market teams whining and it ended up deflating the rest of the league.
You gotta let some of these big franchises be the villains of the league
last night was the first big night of all the young teams having amazing games and the old stars looking completely
at the same time. The shift is happening this year.The conversation has definitely moved on from Zion, Ja can gain momentum back he just has to move to a bigger market city
This thread is overlooking how much the market of the city matters
Case and point :
Saw this tweet yesterday
Now imagine if Joker played in New York, Gianni's was in LA....
Yea Boston has a winning history but the actual city of Boston isn't on anyone's media radar like that
The chase for parity hurt the league's promotion more than anything, Silver folded to the small market teams whining and it ended up deflating the rest of the league.
You gotta let some of these big franchises be the villains of the league
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Nobody cared about big market teams like the NY Knicks, Chicago Bulls, and LA Lakers when the heat, spurs, warriors and cavs were going to the finals and were winning championships during last decade . Superstar players will make small market/mid-market teams big just off their presence. Lebron and Kyrie made the Cavs as revelant as the Knicks and lakers. Lebron, Bosh, Dwayne Wade and Shaq put Miami on the map and made them revelant. Tim Duncan and kawhi Leonard made San Antonio famous. The splash brothers and KD raised the profile of the warriors and made them a big market franchise.You should have made this thread earlier in the week
last night was the first big night of all the young teams having amazing games and the old stars looking completely
The conversation has definitely moved on from Zion, Ja can gain momentum back he just has to move to a bigger market city
This thread is overlooking how much the market of the city matters
Case and point :
Now imagine if Joker played in New York, Gianni's was in LA....
Yea Boston has a winning history but the actual city of Boston isn't on anyone's media radar like that
The chase for parity hurt the league's promotion more than anything, Silver folded to the small market teams whining and it ended up deflating the rest of the league.
You gotta let some of these big franchises be the villains of the league
If Zion ever became the superstar everyone thought he would be, New Orleans would be revelant and the center of the basketball world and would be a big market team as long as he performed well and stayed there with the pelicans.
You place any superstar in any city and on any team , that franchise suddenly becomes a big market franchise. What were the bulls before Jordan? Cows.
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If these dudes were playing on a regular basis, all this side talk about ratings and 3s would be a lot quieter. The stan machine would be fed and distracted.
Everything was set up for these dudes to be the next faces and now there is a void where they were supposed to be.
One player spent too much time at Willie Mae’s and the other thinking he John Wick
Yup, no young superstars to cary the torch now that bron and steph are on their way out.
They better find somebody quick
They better find somebody quick
Nobody cares about jokic cac
Correct in theory but the way you framed it is actually part of the problem
Ja and Zion were supposed to be faces of the league bc they are/were phenoms playing basketball. Instead you describe it as some rigged conspiracy. THATS one of the core issues. The fanbase is flooded with folk who are either casuals or just bitter and more interested in debates and storylines, and they don’t actually know/like/play/understand actual basketball
Ja and Zion were supposed to be faces of the league bc they are/were phenoms playing basketball. Instead you describe it as some rigged conspiracy. THATS one of the core issues. The fanbase is flooded with folk who are either casuals or just bitter and more interested in debates and storylines, and they don’t actually know/like/play/understand actual basketball
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Which means it’s time for the NBA to stop being archaic and stop using the Jordan playbook.
The best players are foreign …and it won’t change for a long time .
You can’t just shoehorn Ant,Ja,or whoever as the face when the guy holing the MVP trophy is gonna be French,Canadian,Slovenian Serbian,Greek ,African and etc.
It’s proven at this point you can’t market intl players the same and have the same impact .
cartierhoe
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This, most of the people who complain about the league would still be complaining about the league. Most of the coli doesn't watch games as it is, Zion has never played in a playoff game, to expect him to "carry" the league all of a sudden is straight stupid. Also Memphis hasn't even reached a conference finals so we still have yet to see Ja's impact on ratings as a whole. Basketball would still be played the same way if both those guys played 82 games straight, if you need those guys to get you to watch basketball maybe you just don't like basketball, that's fine though but don't act like the NBA's success hinges on that.
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I said since the beginning and you mention Michael Jordan?
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This is truly baffling. Only teams in the nba who enjoy the level of loyal support traditionally reserved for historically trash NFL teams like the bills/jets/dolphins/lions/browns are legacy marquee teams like the Celtics, Bulls, Knicks, 76ers and Lakers.
Pistons have had more success, legendary players, division titles, eastern conference titles, league championships than the Lions during the last 40 years but the lions are still much more popular than them
Also the delusional and unnecessary need of too many nba fans to have cool, charismatic and fun star players in the league. I mean what’s wrong with boring star players as long as they ball? I don’t care about their personality, vibes or aura. I only care about their skill, talent and performances. In the nfl, most of the star players and faces of the league are legitimately boring (mahomes, kelce, burrow, Lamar, Allen, russ Wilson, Herbert, Brady, manning and dodgers before them) but the ratings remain stronger than ever regardless. That’s because in football, teams matter. Fans care first and foremost about what’s happening on the field. They don’t care what’s happening out of the field. They don’t care that much about their field antics, personalities, love lives and fashion styles. Hardcore fans don’t care about that only bird brained, shallow, superficial,
and capricious casuals.
Lions and the Pistons should be the poster child for this .
One team ain’t won shyt but have unwavering loyalty and will forever .
Pistons have 3 titles,5 finals appearances and don’t get half the loyalty
Shai “boring “ so the thunder don’t get prime time games even though they one of the best teams in the league
It’s ass-backwards and it’s the NBA’s fault
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Who cares?
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Great pointIf these dudes were playing on a regular basis, all this side talk about ratings and 3s would be a lot quieter. The stan machine would be fed and distracted.
Everything was set up for these dudes to be the next faces and now there is a void where they were supposed to be.