Let's be real about Melo here

[Mic-Nificent]

No excuses...he didn't get drafted into this mess or traded against his will. Amare being hurt is definitely a blow but they weren't exactly setting the world on fire with them both out there.

If he wanted help he couldve done what it took to get said help. Superior players (at the time) in Wade and Bron took less money and adjusted their games. If Bron can do that no superstar or star making more money than him warrants any pleas being copped.

In fairness Bron's game is such that he's a more more natural distributor, that's never been Melo's game. Melo isn't even like Kobe where he could be a playmaker if he really wanted to be, Melo just isn't that good.

I been saying for the longest thought that a lot of the criticism for Melo would go away if he just attempted to play defense.

 

[AXEL]

Knicks are trash rebuild and draft from scratch nuff said

 

[Patrick Kane]

Melo is a really good player but he's not a guy that's gonna lead you to a title. He's got too many flaws

I agree his supporting cast right now is trash, but there's never really been a point in the league where all the superstars had championship level supporting casts.

But they at least had a LEGIT #2 option, sometimes a #3 and 4. Those additional options being in the form of all-stars, depending on the team we're talking.

What all-stars is Melo playing with?

What legit #2 option does he have? Tyson Chandler?

Chandler is a good defensive option but you can't rely on him for to do anything offensively.

How can you win when your supporting casts (Shumpert, Smith, Felton, Artest) are all shooting below 40%. Right now, BARGNANI is the Knicks second best player. BARGNANI. Just goes to show...

 

[Mic-Nificent]

You pretty much have to pair Melo with a PG that can run an offense. If the Knicks had a legit PG I actually think they'd be doing a LOT better.

 

[FTBS]

In fairness Bron's game is such that he's a more more natural distributor, that's never been Melo's game. Melo isn't even like Kobe where he could be a playmaker if he really wanted to be, Melo just isn't that good.

I been saying for the longest thought that a lot of the criticism for Melo would go away if he just attempted to play defense.

I didnt' say anything about distributing though. I am talking about making it easier for the team to put pieces around him and and making it work with another top talent. Melo has done neither of these things therefore there are no excuses for shyt not panning out.

 

[FTBS]

But they at least had a LEGIT #2 option, sometimes a #3 and 4. Those additional options being in the form of all-stars, depending on the team we're talking.

What all-stars is Melo playing with?

What legit #2 option does he have? Tyson Chandler?

Chandler is a good defensive option but you can't rely on him for to do anything offensively.

How can you win when your supporting casts (Shumpert, Smith, Felton, Artest) are all shooting below 40%. Right now, BARGNANI is the Knicks second best player. BARGNANI. Just goes to show...

Amare is legit and they couldnt' make it work even before he was hurt. His contract and the gutting of the squad that was required to get him is certainly not helping in terms of flexibility and options.

 

[Patrick Kane]

Amare is legit and they couldnt' make it work even before he was hurt. His contract and the gutting of the squad that was required to get him is certainly not helping in terms of flexibility and options.

Amare was legit for ONE season in a Knicks uniform (Before Melo). He hasn't been healthy or consistent since. What are you talking about?

 

[Street Knowledge]

But they at least had a LEGIT #2 option, sometimes a #3 and 4. Those additional options being in the form of all-stars, depending on the team we're talking.

What all-stars is Melo playing with?

What legit #2 option does he have? Tyson Chandler?

Chandler is a good defensive option but you can't rely on him for to do anything offensively.

How can you win when your supporting casts (Shumpert, Smith, Felton, Artest) are all shooting below 40%. Right now, BARGNANI is the Knicks second best player. BARGNANI. Just goes to show...

That's not true, name me the year in nba history where every superstar had a legit number 2 option? Or overall championship level teams? That's never been in the case.

And I agree Melos current team is trash. But he had good teams in Denver and never won with them. As for second options, Iverson was playing at an all nba level in 07' and 08' and Chauncey was in 09'.

 

[FTBS]

Amare was legit for ONE season in a Knicks uniform (Before Melo). He hasn't been healthy or consistent since. What are you talking about?

I am talking about their first two years together where they underachieved together. They struggled to fit together. Neither was willing/able to adjust to the presence of another great scorer.

 

[Patrick Kane]

That's not true, name me the year in nba history where every superstar had a legit number 2 option? Or overall championship level teams? That's never been in the case.

And I agree Melos current team is trash. But he had good teams in Denver and never won with them. As for second options, Iverson was playing at an all nba level in 07' and 08' and Chauncey was in 09'.

I'm talking about CHAMPIONSHIP calibre teams specifically.

When Melo had Chauncey in 09', the Nuggets went to the WCF and would've made the finals if two small plays went their way in separate games. And that was playing with a 33-34 year old Chauncey.

Imagine if Melo was playing with a point guard or shooting guard who was 10 years younger and played that same #2 role like Chauncey.

The point I'm making is that nobody wins by themselves.

 

[Patrick Kane]

I am talking about their first two years together where they underachieved together. They struggled to fit together. Neither was willing/able to adjust to the presence of another great scorer.

At that point, Amare had already lost a step though and was not even close to playing with the same fire and intensity he once played with.

And again, he was never really healthy and was in and out of the line up.

 

[FTBS]

At that point, Amare had already lost a step though and was not even close to playing with the same fire and intensity he once played with.

And again, he was never really healthy and was in and out of the line up.

Melo wasn't exactly incendiary that season either. Amare was a good enough 2nd option to get higher than a 7th seed with. The team woulda missed the playoffs if it wasn't for Linsanity that both guys watched from the sidelines.

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

Melo's not playing his best this season, but that roster is trash. Their crunch time lineup is Melo, JR Smith, Kenyon Martin/Bargnani, Felton and Shumpert. That's fukking terrible.

Look at these FG%:

JR - 32%
Shump - 39%
Felton - 39%
Artest - 37%

Team is dogshyt.

Team is dogshyt because there isn't any ball movement and no rhythm to their offense. Those FG percentages are more indicative of how stagnant of an offense they run.

 

[havoc]

Now yall blamign Woodson for isos when Melos an iso player

A coach should be able to convince his best player to adjust his game to improve the flow of the offense. Spo convinced James to play more on the post and play off the ball, and now the Heat has the most efficient offense. Melo doesn't need to chill on the post in every possession. With the skills he has, he should be playing off-the ball more often off picks and screens to set himself up for an efficient shot. Melo can tone down his Iso plays if his coach decide to step up as the leader of the team and demand adjustment.

 

[who_better_than_me]

A coach should be able to convince his best player to adjust his game to improve the flow of the offense. Spo convinced James to play more on the post and play off the ball, and now the Heat has the most efficient offense. Melo doesn't need to chill on the post in every possession. With the skills he has, he should be playing off-the ball more often off picks and screens to set himself up for an efficient shot. Melo can tone down his Iso plays if his coach decide to step up as the leader of the team and demand adjustment.

Melo never been the catch and shoot type.