Lets be real, black elders are largely responsible for our current plight

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Don't be obtuse, breh. Everyone should be able to discern the point @PhillyBirds215 is trying to make. People aren't doing themselves, their children, or society at large, any favors by bringing children into the world when they aren't prepared to do so. :francis:
I understand what he was saying.

Do you understand what I was saying?
 

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Yes I'm dead ass serious. What specifically did we achieve?

If you can't see how the civil rights movement has an a positive effect on the lives of African-Americans living in this country right now, then I can't help you. Some of you really need to pick up a book & educate yourselves & know your history.
 

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If you can't see how the civil rights movement has an a positive effect on the lives of African-Americans living in this country right now, then I can't help you. Some of you really need to pick up a book & educate yourselves & know your history.


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Ard so it's so easy to "see" all the great progress we made how come you can't simply point it out?
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Ard so it's so easy to "see" all the great progress we made how come you can't simply point it out?
:jbhmm:

I'm not sitting here playing this game with you, because you're obviously playing dumb, so I'll give you just 1 example. What about all the political officials that are of African-American descent? Do you think they would be there, in office, if it wasn't for the CR movement.
 

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They fukked up because they didn't actually build anything to leave future generations. What did integration really get us? We still disproportionately go to failing schools. Businesses still discriminate (albeit covertly), and black men are still getting killed with no repercussions. I'm of the mindset that if we just kept building we'd be in a much better position. Who would watch the NBA and mlb if the negro leagues were popping? We were sold out by the ones talented enough to be accepted by the dominate society because they were impatient and indifferent to the plight of us as a whole.

But at least we can PAWG in peace...
But your looking at it thru the eyes of someone looking back. Could they have done more? Maybe maybe not. Everybody just looks at the integration issue. But yall seem to forget we had a bunch of black nationalists back than and they were all killed or locked up. Im all for building for future generations but we cant blame the previous generations for not knowing the value of that

And I noticed you bring up the Negro Leagues. Are you undermining the importance of what Jackie Robinson did?
 

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I had good men in my life and
sure there were a few good people who died n all that.

However, the idea that elders were doing the right things isn't an opinion we all must have @No_bammer_weed @Phoenix Reborn and the rest. @Mr. Jack Napier

It's an opinion.


Some people see dying for integration as dying to sit at the oppressor's table but to not have our own table. Some people see the micro generational gap in pro black mentality and culture as a fail on those who in the 70s and 80 more concerned with fukkery than passing a legacy.

Our social economic position isn't much better now. That's bad and maybe not 100% their fault, but our economic mentality. ..... do you feel old nikkas (who you title 'elders') have zero blame??

We have to remember how hated Malcolm X was in the black church and how the majority of the black community wasn't feeling him until long after his death. They were NOT on the separation and do for self idea ; so in turn the next 40 years couldn't ride the Right wave.


We can paint this analysis as a defeated mentality or say... we are just seeing failure in ourselves. However, the truth is, this is just a historical observation and conclusion.



You Hilary Clinton style campaigning type of typical negros may not agree, but you can't pretend it's something it's not.
 

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I'm not sitting here playing this game with you, because you're obviously playing dumb, so I'll give you just 1 example. What about all the political officials that are of African-American descent? Do you think they would be there, in office, if it wasn't for the CR movement.


Yes the "let's all pray & vote for #ImperialistWhiteMommy2016" crowd.
:russ:
The "racism ain't real no mo" crowd.
:beli:
The "Just pull your pants up and beg white folks for a job" crowd
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Boule public officials selling nikkas out all over the country is your best example of CR success? Really breh?
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Ard so it's so easy to "see" all the great progress we made how come you can't simply point it out?
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Because he's one of those who use talking points that are evasive and hold no water. So when confronted he tries make you look like the dumb one. Those type f people on this forum are the real agents. They see blacks having constructive and productive conversation, and they come in to derail. He can't answer any real questions, just like that M. I. C poster I was arguing with.
 

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Because he's one of those who use talking points that are evasive and hold no water. So when confronted he tries make you look like the dumb one. Those type f people on this forum are the real agents. They see blacks having constructive and productive conversation, and they come in to derail. He can't answer any real questions, just like that M. I. C poster I was arguing with.

We've been conditioned to think white is right. Those same evil white supremacists with their boot on our neck are the same people throwing docile white jezuz worshipping "civil rights" in our faces every time something pops off. That alone should tell us there's some BS going on.
 

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I've stated many times, thecivil rights movement was a farce. Back then Malcolm X was the only one really saying anything different, and the CR leaders hated him. The real reason why is simple, he seen past their bullshyt. The CR movement was for jobs and interracial sex. It had nothing to do with actually gaining CR's for black people.

Black elders are like grown children, they been on this earth for many decades and have NO idea what about the world they live in, no grasp on reality. Ask your mom, aunty, granny for advice and this is what you'll get "oh honey child, you just pray to Jesus, amen, yup, just pray" and this is the same advice that's going to turn u into somebody's bytch. And elder black men are flat out pathetic, most of these nikkas still talk like teengers, all they care about is trying to get young p*ssy.

Most of our elders never believed in themselves, and most of them given up on the youth. Alotta old black ppl simply given up on life and their goal is to collect retirement and dip off into the sunset, while leaving us behind in a racist capitalistic system. Great, now we're fighting an invisible bully. Racism exist and nobody is a racist. And we're integrated , so we have so many young blacks in multicultural social circles, who's been brainwashed to believe everybody is equal, while society has waged war against them. This creates confusion. And how can u blame them?

Our elders have been indoctrinated beyond belief, take their advice at your own peril. Your parents might love u, but that don't mean u should listen to them. Examine their life closely and decide if u should listen because if you're black and don't have a unique understanding of your self or this system, then chances are you're going to feel a lot of pain . I've seen it, I got family members that spend their whole life in the ghetto stagnant. Yes, if u don't play chess, you really will just rot in the place that your at currently. I got cousins my age that's finished, they've already given up on life.

Not so much because of the classic cliché 'theyre lazy' but the true reason is much darker. They're defeated mentally, their situation is so bleak they can't even vision themselves being something more. Most black men get celebrated for doing simple shyt like living to 30 , gradating high school, or staying on their children lives. That's pathetic, these are basic requirements of this society. The reason why we get congratulated, is because nobody believes in us.

Our elders don't believe in us, they don't have the answers. Their answer is to vote Democrat and praise white Jesus. Which has been proven to fail over and over again. IMO I don't care what nobody say, black America is in a very divided and docile state. The future is grim, dark times are upon us. Our elders don't give a fukk, they're ready to retire and die, and now we're out here alone at the mercy of the beast. And most of us, don't even know it. Me personally don't see no light at the end of tunnel or any happy ending for black America. Call me a pessimist


This is like drake level posting. Take a series of armchair youtube cats opinions and make wild statements like :francis: . I understand the frustration but you're trying to say that Dr King and others besides malc was ready to die and potential get their familes killed for "interracial" :wow:


And the answer is simple with older black leaders and 2 fold. We was for the most part assimilated into society to the point where younger guys didn't feel the outright racism is it was back then so how can that relate or care unless it happens in their own back yard? Also most of the black leaders finessed their positions into profitable (i.e Al Sharpton) so what would give them the the incentive to teach and groom other black young men that could take their shine and position after a few years. It's all jacked up.
 
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