Let's be real the Lonzo Hype is already dead

[ISO]

It's only the first 5 or so games. He was too overhyped due to LaVar people take him too seriously. He is going to be a good player but he's a rookie PG who just turned 20, he has to develop. He is going to have to get a lot stronger, he's 6'6 and weights 190 pounds, this is a grown man's league, once that happens he'll be able to use his length to post-up, he seems to have a little turnaround in his game but he doesn't use it because he's too weak right now. Once he puts on weight he'll be a better finisher through contact and more explosive. Right now he is timid, he is afraid of contact.

Also, he is just missing his jumper, a lot of in-and-outs and back rim shots. It would be nice if he played with another guard or a point forward so he can run off screens and C&S from the corners, once he gets his confidence on his jumper he'll be good in the high P&R because of his quick release, step back, and range. This year it should be about learning the P&R/pro offense and the system Walton is running, working on his body and all aspects of his game, and gaining confidence. He shows some encouraging signs, he's a good rebounding guard, the court vision is there, defensively he did a good job on Wall currently the metrics rate him as a + defender, he's a competitor. That Phoenix game showed us what he can be.

10 points, 9 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 of 10 shooting
5 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 of 12 shooting
19 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, 7 of 11 shooting
9 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 of 6 shooting
5 points, 2 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 of 11 shooting

Those are stat-lines to Jason Kidd's first 5 games, and he was 2 years older than Lonzo at this point.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

He's not a scorer. What did y'all expect

they billed this dude as the next jason kid/magic johnson WHO WERE SCORERS.

he's averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists a game

those are solid numbers

but this isn't the elite level of gameplay I was expecting

 

[Lakerman0834]

they billed this dude as the next jason kid/magic johnson WHO WERE SCORERS.

he's averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists a game

those are solid numbers

but this isn't the elite level of gameplay I was expecting

Call Jason Kidd a scorer when he averaged 12.3 points over his career

 

[phillycavsfan]

1. if you actually wached him play you wouldnt say something so dumb. he's boards the ball and is able to push the tempo quicker
2. its 6 games in a new offense, it'll even out
3. the offense is bad in general, its a new system, 6 games

You can't push the "he's almost averaging a triple double" narrative but then point out it's only 6 games when I mention he's only shooting 31%. I'm not even saying the kid sucks. He's a 19 year old rookie PG who's been overwhelmed by the speed of the pro game and his coach handing him the keys of the offense before he's earned it. He could still be good a year from now.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Call Jason Kidd a scorer when he averaged 12.3 points over his career

as somebody pointed out:

he hasn't even put up 10 points since that big 29 point game

i'm not about to sit up here and google jason kidds stats, but i know for a fact he went at least a decade putting up 15 a game MINIMUM.

I think zo will be a good player, but he's not looking like a future hall of famer at all.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

they billed this dude as the next jason kid/magic johnson WHO WERE SCORERS.

he's averaging 10 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists a game

those are solid numbers

but this isn't the elite level of gameplay I was expecting

Kidd's first 6 games at age 21:

9.3 PPG, 7.5 REB, 6.5 AST, .306 FG%

Ball's first 6 games at age 19/20:

10.0 PPG, 7.5 REB, 7.5 AST, .311 FG%

 

[Rollie Forbes]

lavar built him up, lonzo has to deliver

This.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Kidd's first 6 games at age 21:

9.3 PPG, 7.5 REB, 6.5 AST, .306 FG%

Ball's first 6 games at age 19/20:

10.0 PPG, 7.5 REB, 7.5 AST, .311 FG%

okay so in otherwords he's gonna be just as good as jason kidd now?

is this where the BBB followers have shifted the goal post to now?

first of all you groupies need to relax...just reporting on what i'm seeing

your boy hasn't scored 10 points since the 20th of this month - his numbers are solid. they aren't bad.

but these are elite, hall of fame, greatest player in the world, "got his own shoe" numbers!?!

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

okay so in otherwords he's gonna be just as good as jason kidd now?

is this where the BBB followers have shifted the goal post to now?

first of all you groupies need to relax...just reporting on what i'm seeing

your boy hasn't scored 10 points since the 20th of this month - his numbers are solid. they aren't bad.

but these are elite, hall of fame, greatest player in the world, "got his own shoe" numbers!?!

What the fukk is your dumb ass babbling on about? You literally JUST SAID he's not living up to Kidd comparisons. So I just showed you their early career numbers are basically identical. Now you here on some "bu-bu-but" doubletalk.

Don't quote me again, you clearly don't know shyt. Calling Kidd a "scorer"

 

[Lakerman0834]

as somebody pointed out:

he hasn't even put up 10 points since that big 29 point game

i'm not about to sit up here and google jason kidds stats, but i know for a fact he went at least a decade putting up 15 a game MINIMUM.

I think zo will be a good player, but he's not looking like a future hall of famer at all.

have early on-set alzheimer's brehs

Jason Kidd

 

[Rollie Forbes]

The true takeaway of this is that Lavar Ball may be the 21st century's version of Don King; a promoter extrodinaire. Forget Lonzo, LiAngelo, and LiOtherOne's hoop skills; Lavar already had us believing that his kids (and grandkids) will be the GOATs on the court. Hell, even when Lavar said that he could beat MJ and we collectively said , he was able to make some of us .(Note: I know MJ would beat Lavar 10 games out of 10, but it would be fun to watch).
I think Lavar should branch out into promoting other athletes. Could you imagine him as Adrien Broner or GGG's mouthpiece? The Big Baller would have us calling them pound-for-pound The Best Ever!

 

[Booker T Garvey]

What the fukk is your dumb ass babbling on about? You literally JUST SAID he's not living up to Kidd comparisons. So I just showed you their early career numbers are basically identical. Now you here on some "bu-bu-but" doubletalk.

Don't quote me again, you clearly don't know shyt. Calling Kidd a "scorer"

go back and read what i said - and then slap your 3rd grade teacher for fukking you up for life

i specifically said SCORING. jason kidd was seen as a triple threat point guard; he'd drop 10-15 on you every night

(you gotta give these new nikkas articles because they think you just made some shyt up

http://nypost.com/2006/12/10/kidd-presents-a-triple-threat/

lonzo ball is a triple threat!?!
lonzo ball will drop at LEAST 15 on you every night?

even in kidds first 6 games he dropped more points than Ball has.

Ball will get better, but as of now he's NOT EVEN JASON KIDD.

you stupid muthafukka.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

have early on-set alzheimer's brehs

Jason Kidd

so between 1998 - 2005 he was averaging about 15 points a game, i was off by 3 years

 

[Booker T Garvey]

lavar built him up, lonzo has to deliver

mark my words - these dudes are gonna start pulling out his fouls per game stats if he doesn't start living up to it

"look, he fouls less than anybody in their rookie season!"

 

[No Hook]

He's going to have to change his shooting form. I know he s a rookie but i wouldnt be surprised if the nikka popped