Lets be real. The only reason why Biggie is in anybodys top 5 is because Pac shytted on him.

[Nomad1]

nikka u emotional now..like in any pac thread just pick one....groupie nikka only panties thats dropping is yours

in 2015 Pac has a bigger legacy than bigggie Pac gave biggie his first feature thread

 

[Mac Casper]

nikka u emotional now..like in any pac thread just pick one....groupie nikka only panties thats dropping is yours

Look at this guy . . mind in the gutter like always . . you make me sick

 

[Harry B]

Have 2nd and 6th biggest tracks in any genre and no one fukking with you .
Mind you at the time he had been #2 on the billboards only two rap records had ever been #1, Kriss Kross and Vanilla ice.

 

[kingofnyc]

Bruh most nikkas affiliated with Pac didnt even know that he released a book real talk i remember tellin Noble about it when it dropped and showed him the part where he mentioned him being Stretch blood cousin or somethin and we laughed cause Noble didnt even know Stretch...

And about Stretch and Bagz not visiting Pac thats the truth..there was only a selected few that took the time to visit Pac or even write him.

Yak God bless the Dead who used to come to my families house alot when Pac was locked told me that Pac was very hurt about Stretch not comin to visit cause that was his boy.

Pac expected Stretch to react the same way that he did when them nikkas pulled they hammers out..but Stretch hit the floor and you know what im not even blamin the brother cause thats what most of us would have done.

But when Pac was locked up Stretch didnt show for a visit never sent him a letter...and that hurt Pac cause him and Stretch was very close Pac loved that dude to death and when he heard in jail that Stretch was still kickin it with the dudes that shot him up he felt betrayed so Stretch was dead to him from then on

And i never said that Big was involved did i? But i can understand why Pac felt a certain way about the way Big was movin after the shooting. Puff tho is a whole different story fukk him! Big never liked that nikka anyway

fair enough - u have a right to your assessment of story

BUT
i only thing you cant deny is ...
pac fully knowing biggie had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting!

 

[Nomad1]

fair enough - u have a right to your assessment of story

BUT
i only thing you cant deny is ...
pac fully knowing biggie had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting!

Biggie had nothing to do with the shooting. Pac only claimed Puffy had knowledge and didn't tell him, and Biggie just decided to chill and be down with the nikkas who shot him while Pac was in jail.

 

[delnegro]

And 2pac stayed on a label and hung with nikkas that put the beats on his step brother/sister's half brother.

 

[Nomad1]

well, P said he wasnt a fan of biggie... so its no reason to tell this story when it will only make biggie look like 'the don of the rap shyt' esp with P being linked to nas -nas who gunning at that number 1 spot
i dont know & thats neither here nor there


can u verify that e-money & stretch didn't visit him in rikers that's a pretty bold statement for you to make we know pac was upset with stretch bout quad (which was one of many things i never understood about dude -da fukk did he think he was the president & stretch was his secret service whom pose to take a bullet for him)

and like i said if P was lying then majesty or any of stretches or e-money bags fam/peoples would come and check P


at the end of the day i believe P
base on the fact i heard this way back when
obviously without the name or names of the individuals (e-money & stretch)



no disrespect
but the only thing that is ridiculous is you trying to discredit P when all the evidence / logic supports his story
I mean how many people involved has confirmed biggie had nothing to do with it
AND YET pac still use biggie name in every interview that discussed his quad studio shooting

Breh Prodigy is a known liar and that's why I dislike Mobb Deep (aside from the good music they made) a lot. Havoc always keeps shyt 1 hunna and doesn't speak on most of this shyt cuz he knows his place.

Stretch NEVER visited Pac in jail, and I never heard any nikka other than Prodigy saying Money Bagz visited Pac in jail. In fact, only a selected few of Pac's closest friends and family visited him.

Let's say that meet up happened, why didn't Stretch bring that up? Why didn't Money Bagz bring that up? There's no evidence or logic that supports his "story" because all the people involved in that are dead. He only used Biggie's name in the Quad Shooting story as an example of a coward and disloyal friend.

I've always said this; I don't fault Biggie for not siding with Pac, and I never will because he did what he did out of logic.

 

[Mac Casper]

Tupac basically turned his back on Stretch for two reasons

These are the ONLY two potential reasons


A. Stretch is a coward and Tupac didn't want a coward in his circle
B. Stretch knew about it beforehand and/or was still running with the people behind setting him up


Stretch is either

A. Cowardly
B. Disloyal
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Bottom line - I don't know though . . you might have lesser standards for the people you associate yourself with

 

[Nomad1]

And 2pac stayed on a label and hung with nikkas that put the beats on his step brother/sister's half brother.

Mopreme was drunk and got laid out for being stupid. One of many nikkas that caught a beating at the Death Row offices..

 

[Nomad1]

Tupac basically turned his back on Stretch for two reasons

These are the ONLY two potential reasons


A. Stretch is a coward and Tupac didn't want a coward in his circle
B. Stretch knew about it beforehand and/or was still running with the people behind setting him up


Stretch is either

A. Disloyal
B. Cowardly
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Bottom line - I don't know though . . you might have lesser standards for the people you associate yourself with

I would say both, but I always liked his music and his collaborations with Pac.

 

[Mac Casper]

fair enough - u have a right to your assessment of story

BUT
i only thing you cant deny is ...
pac fully knowing biggie had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting!

This is also bullshyt, stop running with bullshyt that you're not apart of. You're some New Yorker-wannabe Eurocac

At minimum - there's guilt by association - if you don't understand this concept you have 0 percent street in you

Second, there's likely a good chance that talk went around the room about what was about to go down while Tupac was in his way to the studio.

Now . . without being there you're gonna say "Nope. No way. I know he didn't know. Biggie's innocent" - *slaps you like the stupid little kid you are*

Guess what, we have a response for that bullshyt too

Tupac addressed this "So you the crown Don of your city and you don't know what's going down?" said Tupac . . . before going into a story about a Wu-Tang affiliate getting their chain snatched and Death Row associates retrieving the chain and bringing it back it's rightful owner


I accept you for the terryclothe fabric dude that you are, it's okay. There's a place in the world for people like you with low comprehension skills Mr. "One of the many things I don't understand about Tupac" aka Mr. "I need simple figures in my life to look up to, complexity confuses me"

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

in 2015 Pac has a bigger legacy than bigggie Pac gave biggie his first feature thread

u answering for the next man thoughthats kinda sonpac stans just take ya L this thread
the threadstarter took a L .....pac stans done moved the goalpost of this thread from biggie wouldnt be top 5 if not 4 pac
But biggie went plat b4 pac..to well um well in 2015 though
Took pac 4 years to do what biggie did in months..lets all read the thread title again and process that

Look at this guy . . mind in the gutter like alwayll s . . you make me sick

And groupie as men make me sick ya weirdo

 

[Nemesis]

Thats not a fact thats a personal opinion.


I hear 2pac bitten way more than biggie. Got people he dissed like jay z remaking his songs.

google is your friend......


BIGGIE has the most recycled liones.....

guess rappers know something you Pac stans dont huh?

 

[Mac Casper]

u answering for the next man thoughthats kinda sonpac stans just take ya L this thread
the threadstarter took a L .....pac stans done moved the goalpost of this thread from biggie wouldnt be top 5 if not 4 pac
But biggie went plat b4 pac..to well um well in 2015 though
Took pac 4 years to do what biggie did in months..lets all read the thread title again and process that


And groupie as men make me sick ya weirdo

I ain't no groupie, I ain't no stan
I'm the man that keeps the upperhand
flexing on you like a rubberband
. . You get punished man
beat on you like a drummer man
Try to make you understand

You can't fukk with Wally
You can't fukk with Wally

Wally is impartial -
Wally ain't no stan
Wally is the man
That'll make you understand

You can't fukk with Wally
You can't fukk with Wally

*break it down*
Wally ain't no groupie
and nothing you say can move me
I'm Wally, it's my duty
- to speak on these truthfully

You can't fukk with Wally
You can't fukk with Wally

Spoiler

 

[Nomad1]

u answering for the next man thoughthats kinda sonpac stans just take ya L this thread the threadstarter took a L .....pac stans done moved the goalpost of this thread from biggie wouldnt be top 5 if not 4 pac..But biggie went plat b4 pac..to well um well in 2015 though
Took pac 4 years to do what biggie in months..lets read the thread title again lets process that

Biggie is top 10, 5, and even 3...you could argue that.

And you guys gotta stop hyping about Biggie's sales when talking about Pac. Biggie debuted when NY was incredibly weak and losing to the west coast in sales. NY rap scene was looking to fill a void and Biggie was that artist to fill it. However, Pac debuted in 91 during a competitive scene in the west coast. Couple with the fact that R2D had strong pop rap singles that had crossover appeal, S4MN and 2N were underground albums.