Lets be real. The only reason why Biggie is in anybodys top 5 is because Pac shytted on him.

[Afromaticz]

Biggie was on the block...while Pac at 17

Yea right

 

[R=G]

Nobody cares about Biggie like that bro. When is the only time he is talked about? Exac

Being Pacs punching bag elevated his status.

In 93, Snoop ruled the world following the Chronic and Doggystyle. Biggie caught fire in 94-95. Me Against the World was a instant classic. Biggie was a standout star...basically keeping the Eastcoast relevant

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Biggie was on the block...while Pac at 17

tutu pac stans are the worst

 

[MouseTeeth]

BIG made better music period end of story.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

So rappers of note from this era and the last,saying they wish they could touch people with they music like Pac....or rappers from this era and the last reffering to Pac as Jesus....rappers remaking entire Pac songs,and dedication songs don't mean as much as using a line?What about namedropping Pac songs?When was the last time a rapper of note said Biggie inspired they entire career,called Biggie jesus,dedicated an entire song to Biggie,made a song called Biggie back,said Biggie recorded one of the greatest records ever of any genre?Because all the top rappers of note from todays era have said and done these things about Pac.

Rappers don't quote the bible either,dont mean they never read it or don't love god more than Biggie,some things you just don't use in vain if you not gon be serious...Quoting Pacs best lines would require these rappers to have to bring some substance to the table to surround the bitten line...much easier to just quote a line about coke or sucking a daddys dikk,well maybe not the line about sucking a daddys dikk

2015

tutu pac stans are the worst

 

[mbewane]

I could argue Biggie while not nearly as bad,is just about as much of a creation as Drake,just another Puffy creation....Its unfortunate he's dead so what I believe can never be proven.....But Puff has gave a lot of average to above average rappers,and even somebody as horrible as himself solid and even great albums.....what have any of them done without him? Im not convinced Bigge would have been any different,alot of his most memorable songs are due to Puffy

To compare him to Pac and many other goats who have proven to do it without a all time great production teams is a insult....Not to mention the thought of Biggie ever being able to make a song like So Many Tears or Dear Mama.

That versatility

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm on the record saying Pac > Biggie in every aspect, that's neither here nor there. Doesn't mean Biggie wasn't talented. But damn near all HH stars are the result of timing, opportunity and the company they keep. Very few (including Pac, but we will never know about Biggie) manage to be at the top "on their own" or with different crews.

 

[kingofnyc]

Bruh what happend i thought u was a BIG fan that shyt was common knowledge...Despite being signed to Puff Big was never happy cause he wasnt feelin the direction Puff was goin

I been hearin that shyt since way back..Big always thought that Puff was corny...and not very talented.

Him and Stretch were also part of the extended Thug Life family.

The nikka that got Pac shot at Quads himself even said that Puff knew...Puff was always a sneaky muthafukka... dude even told Big not to hang around Pac cause he felt that he was a bad influence.
Lol hilarious

Man i got into it with Lil Shawn a few times lol but that shyt is in the past...he's a fukkin cokehead so i wouldnt take anythin he says as gospel

the only thing that was common knowledge was big & puff bump headz with minor things - puff wanted a more commercial sound (which made me alwayz laugh at pac ducktales when pac rants on how he made or gave biggie the blueprint as to making more songs for the bytches then the nikkaz)
so yeah they bump'd headz
biggie wanted 'warning' to be the 1st single puff made it 'juicy'
biggie wanted to call the album 'teflon don' puff made it 'R2D'
biggie wanted his nikkaz from the block to grace the album cover puff made it his sister toddler -see my avi
etc...etc...
so, these minor things is were they disagreed BUT u and others with this biggie hated puff shyt is flat out not true


i read a few different articles on dexter issac confession - and i yet to read him saying puff was involved or knew what was gonna pop off
nikkaz on here had made the same statement as u ALL i ask is drop the link were he admit this - i have asked a few & nikkaz never come thru with proof

and your statement just dosnt make sense or add up
puff telling biggie not to hang with pac cause he a bad influence when biggie is the street dude & knows who to fukkz with and not to fukk with while pac is the non street outta towner

 

[Nomad1]

tutu pac stans are the worst

you stan a cop foh fakkit

 

[kingofnyc]

i never said a new york rapper couldnt sell records.... Nelly went diamond and hes just a rapper from st louis.

u basically calling them local rappers

breh - u cant even go platinum which is 1 million units sold locally....
we are talkin not plat / not multi plat / we are talking diamond 10milly plus

as my former allhiphop OG nikka

 

[kingofnyc]

biggie was a spoiled child. Pac woulda shot biggie like he did them cac cops

he was spoiled living in bed sty do or die

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I could argue Biggie while not nearly as bad,is just about as much of a creation as Drake,just another Puffy creation....Its unfortunate he's dead so what I believe can never be proven.....But Puff has gave a lot of average to above average rappers,and even somebody as horrible as himself solid and even great albums.....what have any of them done without him? Im not convinced Bigge would have been any different,alot of his most memorable songs are due to Puffy

To compare him to Pac and many other goats who have proven to do it without a all time great production teams is a insult

you thought the strongest aspect of ready to die was the production, not the lyrics!?!?!?

 

[GzUp]

u basically calling them local rappers

breh - u cant even go platinum which is 1 million units sold locally....
we are talkin not plat / not multi plat / we are talking diamond 10milly plus

as my former allhiphop OG nikka

breh im not saying he was just a local rapper... im saying with time passed his stardom has shrunk to just new york/eastcoast, where pac sky rocketed globally.

 

[Merkwood]

in spite of length both are better than Ready to Die

1. "Intro" - best thing about it is the samples 1/5 . . starting the album with arguments and shyt? Who got for that? Fantasies of robbing a train. Okay
2. "Things Done Changed" 8/10
3. "Gimme the Loot" - 10/10 storytelling
4. "Machine Gun Funk" - 6/10 at best . . name a song after funk and include no funk brehs "get in that ass like a wedgie" . . wack gun talk the whole track
5. "Warning" 8/10 - solid track, not as hot as "Gimme the Loot" - have I mentioned all of Biggie's metaphors are wack as fukk? "blowing up like nitro"
6. "Ready to Die" -9/10 . . "off and on like a light switch" . . "dripping out my buttcheeks" . . "sleeping on my stomach so I don't mess up my sheets" - law of attraction, the universe took note of this track . . "Oh you're life is played out like a Jherri curl" . . that can be arranged
7. "One More Chance" - 7/10 . . "Cleanest/meanest/penis" . . you're really impressed by this? Absolute struggle chorus
8. "fukk Me (Interlude)" - fukking is new to this guy, makes something for the album because it's such a big deal . . throwaway 0/10
9. "The What" 10/10 - largely due to production and Method Man, Biggie's lyrics are very generic for the time
10. "Juicy" 10/10
11. "Everyday Struggle" 10/10 . . another repugnant mind-state on display, "I don't wanna live no more" sounding like a typical Tumblr bytch. This is why Jay Z easily surpassed him. You never hearJay talking about that wack ass shyt like "I don't wanna live no more". This shyt is for people with no lives that stay in their rooms all day. Easy Moe Bee here to save the day
12. "Me & My bytch" 9/10 . . "so good I'd suck on your daddy's dikk" why did you think that was okay to put that in a song? Muthaphukka had Mister Cee tryna introduce his daughters to him on the regular
13. "Big Poppa" - 10/10 - thanks to Puff's music direction
14. "Respect" - 9/10 . . how many times is he gonna redo the same track? so many of these tracks have inconsequential lyrics that could literally be exchange with lyrics from any other track . .
15. "Friend of Mine" - 6/10 - same track over again like all the other throwaways on this album
16. "Unbelievable" - 9/10 due to production . . another lyrical bullshyt, same shyt all over again
17. "Suicidal Thoughts" - 0/10 another bullshyt, my life means nothing. Tumblr bytch anthem

Such an overrated album with a few highlights thanks to Puffy's direction. dude's a rapper not a songwriter and definitely not an artist. He had no musical direction of his own

Ya . . the content is akin to Tumblr girls who have low self-esteem and talk about killing themselves and how worthless they are all damn day

You sure type a lot... doesn't mean you're right, or know what a metaphor is...

 

[Bondye Vodou]

you stan a cop foh fakkit

 

[3rdWorld]

BIG made better music period end of story.

Anyone saying otherwise is typically a casual rap fan that likes one or two artists..Pac fans are mainly built like that.