Lets be real. The only reason why Biggie is in anybodys top 5 is because Pac shytted on him.

[Mac Casper]

Nice break down. I never said Ready to Die doesn't have problems, just that it was better than any pac album at the time, which it was.

Nope - even if you're talking up through that point Thug Life: Volume 1

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, All Eyez on Me, Me Against the World

each are incrementally better than Ready to Die

 

[Renzo]

Suge had previously asked him to join Deathrow, but he said "he just wasn't ready." The reality of it is that Tupac didn't want to join Deathrow, but changed his mind when faced with prison.

Suge said he'd get Tupac out, in exchange Tupac had to do 3 albums for Deathrow. They worked out a contract in which Tupac would receive an advance of $1 million for the first album, in addition to $125,000 for a car, a $120,000 expense allowance for one year, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired, and David's legal services.

Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18 points for sales of the first album, plus a bonus of 1% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. For the second and third, Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1 million, or $1 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold, and he would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. Tupac said at the time he signed the contract "I know I'm selling my soul." But he couldn't stand another few years in prison.

Tupac agreed and Deathrow lawyer David Kenner went about bailing Tupac out of jail. The New York Court of Appeals granted him leave to post bail. $850,000 was raised by Atlantic Records, which was posted in a corporate guarantee. The rest was put up with a $300,000 bail bond and $250,000 in cash from Suge or Interscope.

Tupac immediately began and released the album All Eyez on Me, a double CD which covered the first 2 cd's of the contract. While on Deathrow Tupac really seemed to change, influenced by Suge in the mob lifestyle and obviously bitter for the setup in the rape case and being shot 5 times.

While on Deathrow he was jacked by Suge Knight repeatedly. He was charged rent on a Wilshire apartment that other Deathrow artists lived in on 9 seperate occasions. He was charged $23,857 for repairs to a porche owned by Steve Cantrock and Suge. Suge and another Death Row representative, who were in California at the time, on the phone told him that he had spent $2 million more than he was entitled to receive.

He was charged $115,507 for three pieces of jewelry from B.L. Diamonds, Suge said that the jewelry was a gift to Tupac from Suge, but the bills were never paid.

On May 2nd, Tupac was charged $14,500 rent for a house in Malibu which David Kenner lived in. He was then charged $100,000 rent for David Kenner, then $12,000 more. He paid $2700 for Nate Dogg's child support and charged $5,845 for jewelry that Suge bought from XIV Karats Ltd.

Sept 3rd he was charged with expenses associated with Michel'le Toussa's Range Rover for $1,453.51. He was also charged over $28,000 for a Chevy Suburban Title. It was taken (bought) in Tupac's name initially, but was given to Suge's brother-in-law, Norris Anderson.

Tupac was charged $51,425 in connection with the cost of transferring the car to Norris.

In August Tupac was charged $2,965, for an American Express bill from Suge's wife.

Tupac was charged with expenses that he never agreed to pay which were attendant to the production of albums released by Death Row.

He was charged $3,421,842 in video production costs and $663,012 in audio production costs.

When Tupac died he had no mutual funds, IRA, or real estate.

He owned no stocks or bonds, and had a checking account that had less than $105,000.

He also didn't own his Woodland Hills house in San Fernando Valley that he had recently thought he had bought.

I think you're missing the point...he got raped due to some shady accounting practices, but when looking at his request and contract, he got all he wanted put in, it was a pretty good contract..Im sure the problem comes when its time to pay up and his money isnt adding up..

 

[kingofnyc]

Step in the ring bytch

i dont waste time with rambling nikkaz


and to get back to my OP -u nikkaz need to STOP the bullshyt on this myth that biggie was some lazy artist

 

[Mac Casper]

i dont waste time with rambling nikkaz


and to get back to my OP -u nikkaz need to STOP the bullshyt on this myth that biggie was some lazy artist

ya . . okay buddy

have a fantasy where Biggie is prolific brehs

 

[JayBaldacci]

Nope - even if you're talking up through that point Thug Life: Volume 1

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, All Eyez on Me, Me Against the World

each are incrementally better than Ready to Die

If you rate any of pac's albums before matw as on par with with rtd you're a stan.


Only pac joint you have a chance with matw.

 

[Still Benefited]

Daam...yall are like....going in..

Over all emcee in technical sense..Biggie wins.

Raw talent, unbridled emotion..Pac wins.

BIG has wordplay that shyts all over Pacs verbal syntaxes.

And Pac makes songs that apease to people in a way BIG could never touch.

BIG wasnt all into pouring his heart on records.

Pac wasnt as calculating in his Rhyming scheme as BIG..and probably could care less.

Everything is bullshyt...keep it Hip Hop fellas...

shyts all over is a strong word and would imply Biggies wordplay is elite level? He was okay but definitely not elite,Cats who don't even get credit for wordplay like Jeezy and E-40 make Biggies shyt look like childsplay,Biggie cant be put in that upper echelon

 

[Mac Casper]

If you rate any of pac's albums before matw as on par with with rtd you're a stan.


Only pac joint you have a chance with matw.

Nope . . you're falling victim to old paradigm

Thug Life: Volume 1 is all around better than Ready to Die . . listen to them both right now and there's no denying what this






Go ahead . . it's seriously not even comparable. Thug Life: Volume 1 is better all the way through

 

[JayBaldacci]

Nope . . you're falling victim to old paradigm

Thug Life: Volume 1 is all around better than Ready to Die . . listen to them both right now and there's no denying what this






Go ahead . . it's seriously not even comparable. Thug Life: Volume 1 is better all the way through

Nice nwa review. Thug Life is 6/10 on a generous "I feel like listening to pac's early shyt" curve. Only pack stans ride for this album.

 

[Mac Casper]

Nice nwa review. Thug Life is 6/10 on a generous "I feel like listening to pac's early shyt" curve. Only pack stans ride for this album.

1 "Bury Me a G" 10/10
2 "Don't Get It Twisted" 10/10
3 "shyt Don't Stop" 10/10
4 "Pour Out A Little Liquor" 10/10
5 "Stay True" 10/10
6 "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" 10/10
7 "Under Pressure" 10/10
8 "Street Fame" 10/10
9 "Cradle to the Grave" 10/10
10 "Str8 Ballin'" 10/10

You must be so out of your mind

 

[kingofnyc]

ya . . okay buddy

have a fantasy where Biggie is prolific brehs

fantasy ???? what fantasy

i done shut this bullshyt thread up with my original post



who went platinum 1st - i know it burnt him & his stans soul

 

[Mac Casper]

fantasy ???? what fantasy

i done shut this bullshyt thread up with my original post



who went platinum 1st - i know it burnt him & his stans soul

Isn't it funny that that's all this man has to say?

"Who went Platinum first" -

Come on . . grow up



and you didn't shut shyt down . . this thread is about to do double Platinum numbers . . I'll bet $1 million Coli cash on that


ya punk

 

[JayBaldacci]

1 "Bury Me a G" 10/10
2 "Don't Get It Twisted" 10/10
3 "shyt Don't Stop" 10/10
4 "Pour Out A Little Liquor" 10/10
5 "Stay True" 10/10
6 "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" 10/10
7 "Under Pressure" 10/10
8 "Street Fame" 10/10
9 "Cradle to the Grave" 10/10
10 "Str8 Ballin'" 10/10

You must be so out of your mind

If you say so.

 

[Shanedon]

Cole...U stupid.

 

[Mac Casper]

If you say so.

irrefutable

 

[Nomad1]

can u name these distortion of history

pac was only known for his music and antics, pac was not anyones fav rapper (key word is rapper not hip hop head definition lyricist), pac was jelous of biggie, biggie was an innocent man-child which got killed bc of pac, etc etc.