Let's be reality. Black feminism is needed. (no trolling please)

[2Quik4UHoes]

I consider it more of a perspective or framework for action. It doesn't have to be backed up by activism, but it can be.

I think if a black woman supports men (and women) calling her a bytch, ho, slut, c*nt, or just sits in the corner and lets men (and other women) degrade her simply because she's a sista, that's pretty weak. I'm not sure what the anti-feminists people expect women to do when people talk shyt about black women. Roll over and just say "yes sir, I's a bytch and I's a ho, even though you don't know me!" Why would anyone agree to do that? Black women get shytted on for their gender and race, by everyone (including other black women who have been brainwashed into thinking its cute to degrade women to earn cool points from men). Black feminism offers a counter perspective. I don't consider it a war against black men or some sort of hate trip, just a perspective that offers a platform to counter all of the bullshyt. I also don't think black feminism is exclusively a perspective for black women. Many other races, and men have embraced it too.

So this is about name-calling?

No offense booboo, but I was expecting something more than that. Not all nikkaz caling BWs bytch, hoe, slut to they face and if they are they aren't worthwhile anyway. That shyt goes back to what I was saying about the destruction of the Black community and family. I feel everything is merely a reaction to the aftermath of said destruction. I can see if it's about instilling pride in Black Womanhood which is good, I can see if it's about creating a new standard which counters the Eurocentric viewpoint that has often been detrimental to Black people, but name calling ain't a big deal and honestly I never seen quality brothas call quality sistas out they name like that. Most cases, that type of stuff goes on with hood folks where the women themselves call each other bytch.

Black feminism should work hand in hand with a movement that seeks to uplift Black men as well so it doesn't seem like one over(or veruses) the other.

 

[marcuz]

They are reacting to the institutions not being in place

i understand that

which is why its probably more suitable to try to wake them up over tuning them out.

 

[NobodyReally]

No, not just about name calling. The name-calling is symbolic of a different problem.

And I never said anything to the contrary of your last points. I totally agree with uplifting everyone in our community, but too often, the agenda in the black community seems to be about restoring black men "to their rightful place", which, frankly disturbs me.

 

[Poitier]

i understand that

which is why its probably more suitable to try to wake them up over tuning them out.

Gotta offer MORE food, clothing and shelter than white daddy offers before they will listen.

 

[Tropical Fantasy]

how does black feminism address domestic violence, molestation, rape or lack of media coverage?

hell, black feminist are raising the goddamn that men that are going around beating and raping all these women.

They're great at raising awareness & providing analysis online, but they need to get beyond step 1

 

[Yup]

i understand that

which is why its probably more suitable to try to wake them up over tuning them out.

That is very contradictory, because your posts say otherwise. If the black community was to follow @marcuz I don't think male accountability would exist.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

When black men are in court I see nothing but women there supporting him, black man in jail? nothing but his momma, his girlfriend and sisters visiting, black man shot down dead(usually by another black man)? It's always the women our there praying and asking for the violence to stop. Black women have been supportive of black men for years. We owe them.

My mother, aunts, and grandma were the ones there for my brother when he did his time. I was the only male in the family that supported him all the other ones hated his guts. Every time we visited him it was nothing but mamas, grandmamas, baby mamas, and kids in that room.

It's shyt like that that make me such a firm believer in Black love and the Black woman, I've never seen anything as strong against all odds. On the one hand it's beautiful to see them still support their men, but it depresses the fukk outta me because we really let these a$$holes get away with destroying the community and leave the women to be the men in the household and community. The whole way, misguided nikkaz think Black women want to be more masculine or some shyt when they really gotta play two roles.

 

[Yup]

Gotta offer MORE food, clothing and shelter than white daddy offers before they will listen.

Are you mocking or are you genuinely seeing their perspective? If welfare was to disappear tomorrow would black women and children be able to survive and be protected?

 

[marcuz]

No, not just about name calling. The name-calling is symbolic of a different problem.

And I never said anything to the contrary of your last points. I totally agree with uplifting everyone in our community, but too often, the agenda in the black community seems to be about restoring black men "to their rightful place", which, frankly disturbs me.

why?

you cant have a successful community without empowered men. that is the foundation of a solid community. yet feminist go crazy when guys like me tell them to have consideration towards their boys.

its really common sense, a collective empowered black man shields, protects, provides AND promotes his woman. black women would automatically receive all the perks and benefits from the mans empowerment. but there's so much mistrust and hatred in the black community. women believe an empowered black men has no use to them, because they're either gay or with white women.

 

[Poitier]

Are you mocking or are you genuinely seeing their perspective? If welfare was to disappear tomorrow would black women and children be able to survive?

If Black men could provide an alternative.

The NOI, Panthers, etc all provided those essentials and it was partially why they grew so large.

 

[LA Fisher]

No, not just about name calling. The name-calling is symbolic of a different problem.

And I never said anything to the contrary of your last points. I totally agree with uplifting everyone in our community, but too often, the agenda in the black community seems to be about restoring black men "to their rightful place", which, frankly disturbs me.

 

[marcuz]

When black men are in court I see nothing but women there supporting him, black man in jail? nothing but his momma, his girlfriend and sisters visiting, black man shot down dead(usually by another black man)? It's always the women our there praying and asking for the violence to stop. Black women have been supportive of black men for years. We owe them.

family supports family. a mother will love her son, just like all these so called black woman haters still have mothers and sisters that hey love dearly.

 

[LA Fisher]

My mother, aunts, and grandma were the ones there for my brother when he did his time. I was the only male in the family that supported him all the other ones hated his guts. Every time we visited him it was nothing but mamas, grandmamas, baby mamas, and kids in that room.

It's shyt like that that make me such a firm believer in Black love and the Black woman, I've never seen anything as strong against all odds. On the one hand it's beautiful to see them still support their men, but it depresses the fukk outta me because we really let these a$$holes get away with destroying the community and leave the women to be the men in the household and community. The whole way, misguided nikkaz think Black women want to be more masculine or some shyt when they really gotta play two roles.

Black women are the only group of women who cannot admit when they need a man. They are forced to be tough and independent.

 

[Yup]

If Black men could provide an alternative.

The NOI, Panthers, etc all provided those essentials and it was partially why they grew so large.

Hmm...they did what about all the debauchery going on within the organization? How long did they last?

 

[LA Fisher]

family always supports family. a mother will love her son, just like all these so called black woman haters still have a black woman and sisters that hey love dearly.

So why aren't the fathers in the community loving and raising their sons marcus.
You like to bring up single mothers a lot so explain this to me. Blood is blood right?