Let's be reality, Pac wrong when he beefed with Biggie

[pointproven214]

pac tells the truth on what happened his side of the story or verison makes the most sense imo.





just read the vibe interview he did in 1994 and was released in the vibe magazine in 1995 from when he still behind bars
and then listen to against all odds and then listen to this from the cd in his own words.

then u can pretty much put 2+2 together and add everything up.

 

[GzUp]

I never read too much into this.

Why did jack and henchman have a problem with pac?

I always thought big was a victim out there, idk.

 

[pointproven214]

I never read too much into this.

Why did jack and henchman have a problem with pac?

I always thought big was a victim out there, idk.

because they could not extort him biggie was build differently then that of pac.

 

[mobbinfms]

Biggie was never involved; but Dexter Isaac (one of the shooters) said Puffy knew a setup was going to happen, and Henchmen set him up.

Puff
Just reaffirms my choice of Puff, in that other thread, as the one rapper I would go back in time and kill if I could

 

[kingofnyc]

Naw Pac was asked to do a song so he went and got ambushed. Biggie was never involved; but Dexter Isaac (one of the shooters) said Puffy knew a setup was going to happen, and Henchmen set him up.

2 things u have to answer to me



1. we gonna need receipts on issac saying puff either knew or was involved




2. if you admit biggie was never involved then why u continually hate on a dead man -why would u even post this shyt

glad biggie is dead. fukk him.

 

[kingofnyc]

basically biggie was getting extorted by jimmy henchmen hatian jack and king tut and basically the only reason why he did not tell pac that them dudes was going to rob him was because he was scared for his life but at the same time if u so gangster imo or so tough how come u did not fight these dudes same with stretch.

so that is where the pac and biggie beef started from and from there the rest is history.

 

[samtalksradio]

isn't biggie's ashes sitting in a jar at his mom's house?

Poochie

Isn't your hero Pac doing the samething? So WTF you talking bout fool you aint even American stay outta our pop culture you faq you probably a white boy anyways. I wish I knew were Pac aches were I'd take a shyt in his Erin just to shyt on the dead fakkit even more like Orlando in them boys did when he thought he too big an couldn't be touched too bad Orlando an Keffie D brought him back down to earth literally.

Orlando Keffie D

 

[KingMalik]

Pac's main issue with Biggie is that the fat ugly broke dude he let sleep on his couch surpassed him in terms of rap cred..Imagine being called King and no one disagrees after just one album, that had to have heated up a lot of rappers.

And pac expected loyalty from Snoop and death row, who he had just met and now expects them to partake in a rap war they wanted to have nothing to do with..

I never even thought about it like that....because I do vaguely remember Pac punching Snoop for recording songs with East Coast artists....Pac was on some 50 Cent shyt forreal Snoop probably didn't meet Pac until 94/95ish and by 96 Pac is expecting him to be his right hand, out on the front lines in some violent rap war. Pac needed friends for real I think he barely had real childhood homies because he moved around from NY to Baltimore to Marin City to Oakland, so he expected these rap nikkas he didn't have a real bond with to be his boys

 

[3rdWorld]

I never even thought about it like that....because I do vaguely remember Pac punching Snoop for recording songs with East Coast artists....Pac was on some 50 Cent shyt forreal Snoop probably didn't meet Pac until 94/95ish and by 96 Pac is expecting him to be his right hand, out on the front lines in some violent rap war. Pac needed friends for real I think he barely had real childhood homies because he moved around from NY to Baltimore to Marin City to Oakland, so he expected these rap nikkas he didn't have a real bond with to be his boys

Why you think he could only get wack ass no-name Outlawz to ride..None of the main artists on Death Row wanted it with Biggie and Badboy, only the two most unstable of the whole camp, Suge and Pac..


Snoop and Pac fall out happened when Pac wanted Snoop to in his personal war beefs after only a few months living together, and Snoop was like


Apparently telling Pac to his face he was a B.I.G fan
and was trying to get him in the studio and make songs with him..

 

[3rdWorld]

pac tells the truth on what happened his side of the story or verison makes the most sense imo.





just read the vibe interview he did in 1994 and was released in the vibe magazine in 1995 from when he still behind bars
and then listen to against all odds and then listen to this from the cd in his own words.

then u can pretty much put 2+2 together and add everything up.

Yeah, he was paranoid and embellished the truth..

 

[Biscayne]

Pac's main issue with Biggie is that the fat ugly broke dude he let sleep on his couch surpassed him in terms of rap cred..Imagine being called King and no one disagrees after just one album, that had to have heated up a lot of rappers.

And pac expected loyalty from Snoop and death row, who he had just met and now expects them to partake in a rap war they wanted to have nothing to do with..

Death Row had EVERYTHING to do with what transpired in that beef. We gonna act like Puffy and Suge didn't have prior beef before Pac got signed there. Honestly speaking, you can sum up the origins of the Death Row vs Bad Boy beef into an amalgamation of incidents of street level and industry level disrespect of westcoast artist at the hands of Eastcoast artist, fans, etc.

Tim Dogg's F*** Compton

MC Hammer getting disrespected in NYC.

NWA getting chased out of the Apollo.

Funk Flex making fun of and doing impressions of Westcoast artist during commercials on Red Alert.

MobStyle dissing NWA.

NY radio not playing westcoast artist in the late-80's/early-90's.


All of this pretty much boiled over by the mid-90's. Even though many of the eastcoast rappers from the NYC renaissance were more cordial to westcoast artists, but the flames were already fanned. Bad Boy kinda played into the whole "Eastcoast we back on top".

 

[Jemmy]

That's more than likely


From a nikka (Lil Shawn) who hated Pac & had Jimmy Henchman's hand up his ass like a puppet

I didn't even hear that from only Little Shawn. And plus if he Henchman guy so much why would he admit to them gettin Biggie robbed cause of him warning Pac?

did this shyt really happen??

Yeah it did. I peeped dude said I got that from Little Shawn but I've even heard the same story before Shawn even said it. Biggie got in trouble cause he tried warning Pac and in the end it backfired on him.

 

[3rdWorld]

Death Row had EVERYTHING to do with what transpired in that beef. We gonna act like Puffy and Suge didn't have prior beef before Pac got signed there. Honestly speaking, you can sum up the origins of the Death Row vs Bad Boy beef into an amalgamation of incidents of street level and industry level disrespect of westcoast artist at the hands of Eastcoast artist, fans, etc.

Tim Dogg's F*** Compton

MC Hammer getting disrespected in NYC.

NWA getting chased out of the Apollo.

Funk Flex making fun of and doing impressions of Westcoast artist during commercials on Red Alert.

MobStyle dissing NWA.

NY radio not playing westcoast artist in the late-80's/early-90's.


All of this pretty much boiled over by the mid-90's. Even though many of the eastcoast rappers from the NYC renaissance were more cordial to westcoast artists, but the flames were already fanned. Bad Boy kinda played into the whole "Eastcoast we back on top".

The original East West rivalry was basically harmless, and was about the music..it was about who made the best music, plain and simple. There was mutual love and respect on both sides, though there was strong competition. Listen to the vintage rappers tell it..they coexisted very well.

Pac came through and made a mountain out of an ant hill, for his own selfish reasons..he used people to go at people, and assisted in the destruction of hip hop. He used whatever fame he had to try an alienate people, tried to destroy careers, and for what?

All those rappers in the East and West he was trying to pit against each other, wanted no parts of his schemes and shenanigans..they were level headed and needed to travel to reach people with their art and make a living, and Pac was basically saying its time to go to war, meaning now a NY artist can get shot out West and vice versa, thats what Pac wanted..and for what reason..

 

[Sensei]

whos calling pac right on so many other things ???

his fan base -yes or maybe
the rest of the world -no or not so ​

i dont know what da fukk dat gotta do with this
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but as far as your other shyt -again u need help -you are a delusional individual

you ignored every fact that i posted about someone being shot & taken to the hospital

Dude you are trying to hard?I never seen someone on a deads man's nuts .Making every excuse saying they don't allow friends only immediate family members to see the patient goes against the point you trying to make.Then you say they move that person room to room,which would negate your point again if he wasn´t able to see him.
You making every lame excuse is not going to change what happened. Making every far fetched possibility just shows what kind of a dikkhead you are.Like I said ,Pac had big time problems with his family,which is why he let Mopreme get busted up by Deathrow and he never knew his real father that good.
Pac said he didn't see Biggie and his NY homeboys in the hospital,end of story. Only Treach was there.

 

[Biscayne]

The original East West rivalry was basically harmless, and was about the music..it was about who made the best music, plain and simple. There was mutual love and respect on both sides, though there was strong competition. Listen to the vintage rappers tell it..they coexisted very well.

Pac came through and made a mountain out of an ant hill, for his own selfish reasons..he used people to go at people, and assisted in the destruction of hip hop. He used whatever fame he had to try an alienate people, tried to destroy careers, and for what?

All those rappers in the East and West he was trying to pit against each other, wanted no parts of his schemes and shenanigans..they were level headed and needed to travel to reach people with their art and make a living, and Pac was basically saying its time to go to war, meaning now a NY artist can get shot out West and vice versa, thats what Pac wanted..and for what reason..

Not true at all. There was PLENTY of back and fourth musical and physical beef between the Eastcoast and Westcoast before Pac was even a solo act. All the incidents I listed happened between 88' and 94'. Pac wasn't even in War Mode when guys like Tim Dogg got pressed in California(Pac saved him, in Tim Doggs own words). Treach got pressed by some Crips(again, Pac saved him in Treach's own words). Ice Cube almost got chased out of the Apollo by some Harlem Goons and Rap group Mob Style. Hammer got booed in New York. People act as if the two coast were cordial, and Pac came in and killed the vibe. Not true at all. The eastcoast had a MAJOR hand in the animosity that was aimed towards them. Here's a good article written by Davey D which basically surmises how the eastcoast kicked off this war. Mind you David D is originally from the Bronx(although he moved to the Bay in his 20's). But he drops some GEMS about Eastcoast insecurity in the late-80's through mid-90's. I think this article is from 95':

http://www.daveyd.com/eastwest3.html