let's come to a genuine consensus about who the better producer is. dr. dre or the rza

[TheRtist]

rza was a more talented beatmaker. his flips are so far superior to dre's


dre as a producer in the scheme of an entire song is better. but he for sure had a lot more help than rza



in their prime im taking rza over dre

RZA > Dre and friends. Dude is never in the studio alone.

A better comparison would be RZA vs Quik.

Fred.

they both sampled. meaning they both had help.

Either ways, Dre crafted careers...Eazy E, Ice Cube, Snoop, DOC, Eminem, Eve, The Game, 50 Cent, Kendrick Lamar...etc.

RZA is more of a beatmaker than anything and hasnt done anything or brought anything to the table post-Wu.

 

[TransJenner]

Wtf DRE

even though he didn't really produce his stuff
But he mixes a record like no other

 

[TransJenner]

DJ Quik >> Dre & RZA
if we being honest

 

[TheRtist]

even when Dre falls off he stands above RZA

 

[TheRtist]

Wtf DRE

even though he didn't really produce his stuff
But he mixes a record like no other

you clearly dont know the meaning of production.

Read my post, RZA is a beatmaker.

 

[stealthbomber]

they both sampled. meaning they both had help.

Either ways, Dre crafted careers...Eazy E, Ice Cube, Snoop, DOC, Eminem, Eve, The Game, 50 Cent, Kendrick Lamar...etc.

RZA is more of a beatmaker than anything and hasnt done anything or brought anything to the table post-Wu.

you know damn well what we meant

dre had scott storch and company tightening up his beats

rza for the most part was doing his thing

 

[TrebleMan]

I gotta go with Dr. Dre.

Part of being a great producer/artist is the vision and overall impact you take your craft to.

Another key and overlooked element of being a great artist/producer/composer is keeping your team leveled by being the captain of the vessel. For a mega-producer, leadership is a big role.

RZA is a better artist innately, but Dr. Dre is just the better artist when it comes to results.

 

[dubsmith_nz]

Dr. Dre is hands down the GOAT hip hop producer. Pick a top 5 album from any decade of hip hop and you'll see a Dre produced album in there.

He's the only artist to have not only defined the genre himself, but been behind he careers of genre defining artists in the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s.

Noone compares to what he's achieved.

 

[KwamePiesie]

better producer? Dre
better beatmaker? RZA

 

[u mad son?]

RZA easily

he was a one man team, Dre had an army behind him helping him on the boards

 

[SirBiatch]

who cares about beatmaker vs producer, who had a run, mixing, blah blah

At the end of the day, RZA's music > Dre's music

 

[Knicksman20]

RZA easily

he was a one man team, Dre had an army behind him helping him on the boards

Yup. Dre has had "help" for most of his career as a producer.

 

[hex]

they both sampled. meaning they both had help.

I need to cut your post short right there because it makes zero sense.

Yes they both sample. That has nothing to do with help.

RZA did at least 90% of his beats himself. Dre will have literally 5-10 people in there with him, and a co-producer....be it Yella, Daz, Mel-Man, somebody right there next to him at every step of the process.

And I'm at some of the things you're saying Dre is responsible for. Kendrick?

Cube? Cube wrote NWA's biggest album then went solo. Unless Dre was just gonna drop instrumental CDs he needed Cube and Ren just as much as they needed him.
And Eminem helped Dre's career just as much as vice versa. Dre was when that "Aftermath Presents" shyt dropped.

RZA went on to score blockbuster movies after Wu. So not sure what you're talking about there, either.

Fred.

 

[onlylno]

even when Dre falls off he stands above RZA

Dre didn't make that shyt . Check the credits

they both sampled. meaning they both had help.

Either ways, Dre crafted careers...Eazy E, Ice Cube, Snoop, DOC, Eminem, Eve, The Game, 50 Cent, Kendrick Lamar...etc.

RZA is more of a beatmaker than anything and hasnt done anything or brought anything to the table post-Wu.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

rza is a much better artist than dre. add in teh rapping, rza the cure era coulda been the goat

instead he went digi..