Lets get it Started right now-Which NBA Era is Better?

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***disclaimer: to be clear these two seasons are representative of 2 eras.***


NBA SEASON 96-97

All-NBA Teams

1st Team
Tim Hardaway
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan*
Karl Malone*
Hakeem Olajuwon*

2nd Team
Patrick Ewing*
Gary Payton*
Scottie Pippen*
Glen Rice
Mitch Richmond*

3rd Team
Vin Baker
Anfernee Hardaway
Anthony Mason
Shaquille O'Neal
John Stockton*

All-Defensive Teams

1st Team
Michael Jordan*
Karl Malone*
Dikembe Mutombo*
Gary Payton*
Scottie Pippen*

2nd Team
Mookie Blaylock
P.J. Brown
Anthony Mason
Hakeem Olajuwon*
John Stockton*

All-Rookie Teams

1st Team
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Marcus Camby
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Antoine Walker

2nd Team
Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Kerry Kittles
Travis Knight
Matt Maloney


VS

NBA SEASON 14-15

All-NBA Teams

1st Team
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Marc Gasol
James Harden
LeBron James

2nd Team
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeMarcus Cousins
Pau Gasol
Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook

3rd Team
Tim Duncan
Blake Griffin
Kyrie Irving
DeAndre Jordan
Klay Thompson
All-Defensive Teams

1st Team
Tony Allen
Draymond Green
DeAndre Jordan
Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul

2nd Team
Andrew Bogut
Jimmy Butler
Anthony Davis
Tim Duncan
John Wall
All-Rookie Teams

1st Team
Jordan Clarkson
Nikola Mirotic
Nerlens Noel
Elfrid Payton
Andrew Wiggins

2nd Team
Bojan Bogdanovic
Langston Galloway
Zach LaVine
Jusuf Nurkic
Marcus Smart

 

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Now i'm going to give you the two obvious points.

notice todays era consists of two old bigmen pau gasol and tim duncan. proves that Bigs nowadays are faceup bigs with little post moves or desire to hit the block and dominate. and yall wonder why super athletic blake cant get to the finals, or why aldridge is still sitting at home yet another summer.

notice that old school 90's era. had no old head bigs or old head guards in their all nba teams. Everyone was in their prime or slightly out of it, destroying the league all at the same time.

also notice... the same guys that made the ALL NBA TEAMS in the Old school era were a lot of the same guys on the ALL DEFENSE TEAMS. To be a superstar in the 90's you had to do two things. Score and lock people up. Nowadays, just scoring is enough. cause the rules are setup so no one can lock up anyone. just score.

 

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This is far and away the worst metric I've ever seen used to compare between the 2 eras, just letting you know in advance.

 

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These aren't eras, just 2 seasons.

it's close but I'll go with now just because it's more high paced and more threes. More fun.
It's close tho, just because of MJ but hey he was older that season and this season has LeBron which is close enough

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Hardaway over GP????

 

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These aren't eras, just 2 seasons.

it's close but I'll go with now just because it's more high paced and more threes. More fun.
It's close tho, just because of MJ but hey he was older that season and this season has LeBron which is close enough

these are seasons in an ERA. i used these two seasons to represent eras. You get the point. stop trying to be a teacher and reply to the thread... or dont.

the 97 season reflects a golden year in the 90's era. there are more. but i used that one for a reason.

this year there's a lot of supposed mvp candidates running around. so i used this year to represent the current era.

now back to the thread at hand.

 

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Hardaway over GP????

my bad. these are not my picks. these are the actuall all nba teams from those seasons. that tells you how much hardaway with that crossover was killing people. and i'm a super gp fan. i would still personally pick prime gp over prime tim anyway of the week.

 

[jeh]

The 1800s was probably hands down the best. No 3 -points. No dunking. No shot clock. No cheer leaders. No commercials. Its one other thing they didn't have.. .... but I forgot

 

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This is far and away the worst metric I've ever seen used to compare between the 2 eras, just letting you know in advance.

no. this is by far and away the simplest metric. you cant measure stats when the rules have changed so much and the way people play(every single team is running heavy pick and rolls on the ball, this was not the case back then, some teams were known for it. now every team is known for it. that changes how you can or cant defend guys. their are rules in place where you cant get up in guys on defense consistently in today's nba. this increases the scoring ability of the current crop. it helps some guys score more efficiently.

just looking at the names and throw in the rules. defensively speaking. the new era has zone(bodies in the way). but who is really protecting the paint except for a high jumper named DJ? thats about it.

everyone else is just there in the new era list above.

vs the old school list where you can tell those guys are known defenders. who would you rather have defending the paint DJ or mutombo? give me mutombo all day any day. why? because he didnt even have to be athletic to block those shots, he had impeccable timing. and his man defense was great. unlike DJ's where its better this season but vs who? a bunch of weak post players. we know what DJ would do vs a real post player thats not old and gray(timmy). we remember how bynum use to tear DJ a new one every time they played. and bynum had not one, but two bad knees.

imagine Dj playing vs pat ewing, Zo, hakeem, David robinson. every other night. you wouldn even know who DJ was.

THis is why a metric like this works.

put names on these eras so you can put the numbers into context. stop running around with pure numbers and zero context.

 

[Pesci]

as everyone knows, the NBA of the past is always tougher and more skilled

 

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I did reply...
And my comment stands. There is more 3s, better ball movement and a higher pace.
If you are asking purely, which "era" had more talent, I'd still go with right now. Especially, if we are really talking about the 2 "eras" not just the two seasons because this current era has Kevin Durant, who didnt play last season and could be one of the greatest players ever when all said and done

 

[Juggalo Fred]

as everyone knows, the NBA of the past is always tougher and more skilled

except they never saw anyone like Lebron

 

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no. this is by far and away the simplest metric. you cant measure stats when the rules have changed so much and the way people play(every single team is running heavy pick and rolls on the ball, this was not the case back then, some teams were known for it. now every team is known for it. that changes how you can or cant defend guys. their are rules in place where you cant get up in guys on defense consistently in today's nba. this increases the scoring ability of the current crop. it helps some guys score more efficiently.

just looking at the names and throw in the rules. defensively speaking. the new era has zone(bodies in the way). but who is really protecting the paint except for a high jumper named DJ? thats about it.

everyone else is just there in the new era list above.

vs the old school list where you can tell those guys are known defenders. who would you rather have defending the paint DJ or mutombo? give me mutombo all day any day. why? because he didnt even have to be athletic to block those shots, he had impeccable timing. and his man defense was great. unlike DJ's where its better this season but vs who? a bunch of weak post players. we know what DJ would do vs a real post player thats not old and gray(timmy). we remember how bynum use to tear DJ a new one every time they played. and bynum had not one, but two bad knees.

imagine Dj playing vs pat ewing, Zo, hakeem, David robinson. every other night. you wouldn even know who DJ was.

THis is why a metric like this works.

put names on these eras so you can put the numbers into context. stop running around with pure numbers and zero context.

This is untrue, teams don't really post up anymore because that has proven to be less efficient but overall offensive sets are a lot more complex. Pick n rolls maybe the center action but there is a lot more movement and misdirection happening off the ball, in the 90s guys just stood and watched MJ or Tim hardaway go Iso or stood and watched Shaq or Hakeem post up.
Also, there may not be much handchecking but that was never a basketball play to begin with and teams have gotten much smarter in packing the paint and forcing opps into contested mid range shots, so defense is better as well.
The overall talent level is slightly better now although it's close but strategy on both ends is more complex and effective than ever and that's a fact

 

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I did reply...
And my comment stands. There is more 3s, better ball movement and a higher pace.
If you are asking purely, which "era" had more talent, I'd still go with right now. Especially, if we are really talking about the 2 "eras" not just the two seasons because this current era has Kevin Durant, who didnt play last season and could be one of the greatest players ever when all said and done

and prove to us how in the hell does this era have more TALENT? lol.

this era does not have any legit back to the basket big men AT ALL. they dont exist. tim is old as dirt. he doesnt count anymore. just like old man kobe doesnt count or kg. hakeem, pat ewing, david robinson, zo. woudl destroy any center from today. DE__STROY. dwight would foul out, DJ would foul out. Do you understand what that means? it means you would have no choice but to double down on these guys. and that means someone is WIDE OPEN. without having to use a lot of energy with penetrating and dishing or running 10 thousand screens and sets to get the ball to someone. just one pass to the block and bam AUTO double team. kick out, swing swing, wide open 3ball or someone cutting thru for a layup and a foul cause the other defender wasnt paying attention to the cutter.

a lot of your favorite players from that 90's era could also post up and would do so if they felt they had a mismatch. this era does not have that skill set for the most part. you notice skinny livingston taking clowns to the post like its nothing. what do you think would happen if GP put you Teague on the block?




after GP abuses teague a few times. the hawks will send a double team. and thats a no no. you never want to double team a Point guard. he can pass to well. its a wrap.

 

[ghostwriterx]

NBA SEASON 96-97

All-NBA Teams

1st Team
Tim Hardaway
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan*
Karl Malone*
Hakeem Olajuwon*

2nd Team
Patrick Ewing*
Gary Payton*
Scottie Pippen*
Glen Rice
Mitch Richmond*

3rd Team
Vin Baker
Anfernee Hardaway
Anthony Mason
Shaquille O'Neal
John Stockton*

All-Defensive Teams

1st Team
Michael Jordan*
Karl Malone*
Dikembe Mutombo*
Gary Payton*
Scottie Pippen*

2nd Team
Mookie Blaylock
P.J. Brown
Anthony Mason
Hakeem Olajuwon*
John Stockton*

All-Rookie Teams

1st Team
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Marcus Camby
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Antoine Walker

2nd Team
Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Kerry Kittles
Travis Knight
Matt Maloney


VS

NBA SEASON 14-15

All-NBA Teams

1st Team
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Marc Gasol
James Harden
LeBron James

2nd Team
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeMarcus Cousins
Pau Gasol
Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook

3rd Team
Tim Duncan
Blake Griffin
Kyrie Irving
DeAndre Jordan
Klay Thompson
All-Defensive Teams

1st Team
Tony Allen
Draymond Green
DeAndre Jordan
Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul

2nd Team
Andrew Bogut
Jimmy Butler
Anthony Davis
Tim Duncan
John Wall
All-Rookie Teams

1st Team
Jordan Clarkson
Nikola Mirotic
Nerlens Noel
Elfrid Payton
Andrew Wiggins

2nd Team
Bojan Bogdanovic
Langston Galloway
Zach LaVine
Jusuf Nurkic
Marcus Smart

Anthony Mason made an all-nba team?

Inadvertently kill your point in the op brehs.