Lets get it Started right now-Which NBA Era is Better?

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Also I realize MJ may not be the best Iso example because the bulls did play the triangle a lot, but look at this way, the triangle was incredibly innovative in a lot of ways in the 90s NBA (even though I realize it's been around since the 50s at least)
But after poppovich took a bunch of action of the triangle and made slight changes to alter it for the modern game, most of the NBA followed with their own versions and at this point it's basically an archaic system. Shows you how much Xs and Os have progressed

 

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and prove to us how in the hell does this era have more TALENT? lol.

this era does not have any legit back to the basket big men AT ALL. they dont exist. tim is old as dirt. he doesnt count anymore. just like old man kobe doesnt count or kg. hakeem, pat ewing, david robinson, zo. woudl destroy any center from today. DE__STROY. dwight would foul out, DJ would foul out. Do you understand what that means? it means you would have no choice but to double down on these guys. and that means someone is WIDE OPEN. without having to use a lot of energy with penetrating and dishing or running 10 thousand screens and sets to get the ball to someone. just one pass to the block and bam AUTO double team. kick out, swing swing, wide open 3ball or someone cutting thru for a layup and a foul cause the other defender wasnt paying attention to the cutter.

Wait are we talking about which era is better? Or which era has more talent? Or is it which era has more back to the basket post players?

Because if it's the last one, than yes I agree the mid-late 90s had more players of that type

 

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Anthony Mason made an all-nba team?

Inadvertently kill your point in the op brehs.

Too soon breh

 

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Anthony Mason made an all-nba team?

Inadvertently kill your point in the op brehs.

Self ether is the worst ether

 

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Hate era debates with a passion

 

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this era does not have any legit back to the basket big men AT ALL. they dont exist

Come on man. You know this is false

 

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These aren't eras, just 2 seasons.

it's close but I'll go with now just because it's more high paced and more threes. More fun.
It's close tho, just because of MJ but hey he was older that season and this season has LeBron which is close enough

because of jordan. haa haa. did you forget all those big men?

shaq, hakeem.. those two alone are too much for any center or pf of todays game. barkely was still playing pre knee injury.

but the fact you believe this era is more fun to watch is proof of my point. they changed the rules so to bring the fans back and keep them back. they made it easier for perimeter players to score along the perimeter(cant touch rules along the perimeter). but made it more difficult for bigmen to score in the paint with low post moves(zone defense)

the rules has made this era what it is on top of offensive schemes.(this is the advancement of this era, not the players per se)

more players nowadays can handle the ball and give you mixtape dribble moves. but it only works because you cant guard anyone in this era. gary payton would steal the ball from teague(who i like a lot and i know he has crazy handles and is super quick). lets not forget how old man kobe locked up kyrie not that long ago. kyrie had the same wicked handles. thats because that game the refs allowed kobe to body him up and get all up in him without blowing the whistle. what would happen if that were the rules of today? most of these guards wouldnt be able to look as elite as they do. curry would be curry regardless due to his high skill level. westbrook would be very good steal but he would have some trouble. dragic would not be anyone to worry about at all. no one would be talking about paying him that kind of money either. .

 

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Come on man. You know this is false

lol start naming names. please do. so i can prove that wrong.

marc gasol? more of a faceup big. do not name old man pau or timmy. dont count. these are older stayovers from another era.

the guards from the all defensive list from the 97 season have more low post game than any big man in todays era.

 

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lol start naming names. please do. so i can prove that wrong.

marc gasol? more of a faceup big. do not name old man pau or timmy. dont count. these are older stayovers from another era.

the guards from the all defensive list from the 97 season have more low post game than any big man in todays era.

Lets start with Al Jefferson, DeMarcus Cousins, Brook Lopez and Dirk Nowitzki. Whats wrong with them

Pau isn't a better post player than his brother Marc right now anyway

 

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This is untrue, teams don't really post up anymore because that has proven to be less efficient but overall offensive sets are a lot more complex. Pick n rolls maybe the center action but there is a lot more movement and misdirection happening off the ball, in the 90s guys just stood and watched MJ or Tim hardaway go Iso or stood and watched Shaq or Hakeem post up.
Also, there may not be much handchecking but that was never a basketball play to begin with and teams have gotten much smarter in packing the paint and forcing opps into contested mid range shots, so defense is better as well.
The overall talent level is slightly better now although it's close but strategy on both ends is more complex and effective than ever and that's a fact

wrong teams do not post up anymore because the big men no longer exist that CAN. stop letting the media tell you things and pay attention.

The skill does not exist. DJ has been working on his post game forever. and he's barely got a hint better. dwight has been working with the greats and he is suspect on the block.

yall havent seen serious post work since andrew bynum. and before that YAO ming. all down with injuries. i'm talking guys that were coming along after tim duncan ruled the world.

true back to the basket bigs do not exist because its very difficult to develop post moves in the posts. its EASY as hell to turn around, face up, and dribble or shoot a jumper. thats something every ball player can do on any level. turn around face up and then go. its not because post game is less efficient. how dumb is that. There is nothing more efficient then hakeem, shaq, etc in the paint on the block. there is nothing more efficient then a prime chuck B on the block, kemp on the block, NOTHING.

dont let the fact that these guys no longer exist skill wise make you believe otherwise. since the league realize that these guys no longer exist add in the zone defense. and bam get rid of bigmen. now its all about faceup guys. your PF"S have no power, they are all just forwards. .

prime eras = C, PF, SF, SG, and PG

this era = Face up Big, Faceup Big, Point forward or ball handling forward, SG, and Short SG.

Cp3 and wall are pretty much the last of the legit pgs that can actually score too. everyone else is a short shooting guard posing as a point based on height.

 

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Lets start with Al Jefferson, DeMarcus Cousins, Brook Lopez and Dirk Nowitzki. Whats wrong with them

Pau isn't a better post player than Marc Gasol right now anyway

LOl at al jeferson. that nucca is old too. stop with the old guys. DIrk is done, cooked like timmy. these are guys from a different era.

Boogie got some low post game. i'll give you that. but we know he loves facing up. but i'll give you boogie. Brook lopez is ok at best again look at his competition. its lacking a lot.

i'll help you ZBO but wait. thats an older guy too. and he loves to face up too. wait. dirk is a faceup stretch 4 too.

who would you rather have on the block. Brook Lopez or pat ewing
brook lopez or hakeem
Boogie or shaq...we're talking on the block.

its not even close.

 

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Hate era debates with a passion

soooo why are you here?

 

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I did reply...
And my comment stands. There is more 3s, better ball movement and a higher pace.
If you are asking purely, which "era" had more talent, I'd still go with right now. Especially, if we are really talking about the 2 "eras" not just the two seasons because this current era has Kevin Durant, who didnt play last season and could be one of the greatest players ever when all said and done

let me also add. i'll let you add in KD. but if you do that. NO russy triple doubles, no russy gone wild games. you do understand this right? so that means russ drops a bit.

KD could be all sorts of things but we'll he? i dont know.

i know he's basically 7 feet playing like a sG. which is crazy. but i do know his defense is still suspect. and if he had to deal with that 90's era. that would be hard for him to deal with. a ton of guys going at him night in and night out vs just a couple of guys doing that on his level. i know for a fact he wouldnt like guys putting their weight on him. they cant do that now with the rules.

KD hasnt got to the point where he has shown he can be a floor general for his team like star perimeter players should.

 

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LOl at al jeferson. that nucca is old too. stop with the old guys. DIrk is done, cooked like timmy. these are guys from a different era.

Boogie got some low post game. i'll give you that. but we know he loves facing up. but i'll give you boogie. Brook lopez is ok at best again look at his competition. its lacking a lot.

i'll help you ZBO but wait. thats an older guy too. and he loves to face up too. wait. dirk is a faceup stretch 4 too.

who would you rather have on the block. Brook Lopez or pat ewing
brook lopez or hakeem
Boogie or shaq...we're talking on the block.

its not even close.

Hold on, you said low post big men don't exist at all in this era but now you've acknowledged Boogie. Pretty sure footwork, counters and touch age well in basketball so Al Jefferson is still an outstanding post player, old man still gets it done. Dirk is not done he's clearly still effective with his back to the basket as one of the most skilled post players to ever play this game. Zbo is still very good down low doesn't matter if he's old wasn't aware there was an age restriction to being able to play through the post. Griffin and Aldridge are good back to basket players not entirely sure why you think they aren't. Brook Lopez is not ok at best he's incredibly skilled. Not saying these guys are better than Pat/Shaq/Hakeem, they aren't, but that saying this era has no good b2b big men is pretty insane.

And thats why I hate era debates. Because there never fails to be one side that exaggerates out of their ass to make the era they want to shine look better with some outrageous statement that grossly misrepresents an era

 

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true back to the basket bigs do not exist because its very difficult to develop post moves in the posts. its EASY as hell to turn around, face up, and dribble or shoot a jumper. thats something every ball player can do on any level. turn around face up and then go. its not because post game is less efficient. how dumb is that. There is nothing more efficient then hakeem, shaq, etc in the paint on the block. there is nothing more efficient then a prime chuck B on the block, kemp on the block, NOTHING.

3s are worth more than 2s breh