Because a lot of ppl use it to side support trump like trump himself isn't telling police to fukk blacks up
Let's have an honest conversation about the '94 crime bill....
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The crime bill is just one of those things to point up when you start considering who helped build the increasingly authoritarian police state that we live in. You're asking people who aren't democratic party loyalists, who were likely struggling/unhappy with the country as it is constructed even before COVID to stfu and support the person who played an integral role in creating the fukking problems they see all around them.
That will work on some, others it won't. You've made your decision about how to handle that, let people make theirs and hope that enough people buy the bullshyt to get him elected. If you want people to be even less likely to 'suck it up and vote for Joe" keep shaming them and beating dead horse arguments.
That will work on some, others it won't. You've made your decision about how to handle that, let people make theirs and hope that enough people buy the bullshyt to get him elected. If you want people to be even less likely to 'suck it up and vote for Joe" keep shaming them and beating dead horse arguments.
I don't think my post has anything to do with rather or not you are democratic loyalist. I see no point in party affiliation. Also which part of my post are "shaming" to anyone. It's interesting you point to something that was done 25+ years ago regarding the authoritarian police state when there is real life present day more egregious things happening right now at the direction of the current president that would push the police state over the mountain top. The biggest issue with stances like yours is y'all don't keep that same energy both ways. My post was no glowing review of Biden nor to absolve him of his faults during those years. Maybe if you bothered to read you would have realized that.
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I've long thought about making a thread very similar to this, but concluded that this section was not ready to have that conversation, and it would just be spammed with hate/shyt/insult posts. That said, the bill still turned out to be a disaster so that's ultimately what it will be remembered for. The Violence Against Women Act doesn't seem to get talked about enough when people talk about the crime bill.
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older members have spoken about, and showed articles/clips with regular Black people, clergy, and officials FROM that era speaking about the homicide and crime rates at the time, and demanding that action be taken instead of letting the genocide/fratricide continue.
Had federal steps not been taken, many people on this board might not be alive. One of their parents might have been an innocent bystander who caught a stray bullet. That's not hyperbole either.
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Hindsight is 20/20, but the question comes down to whether they still would have the same mindset and feelings knowing the repercussions and outcome of the bill years later.
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Lot of people here are afraid of getting laughed at if they expressed their own takes and views. So they just parrot somebody else's take.......or try to bring complex discussions to a kiddie level.(where they feel most comfortable)
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Young Black men were dying at such an alarming rate, that stalling or not doing anything wasn't really an option. For example, the uptick in shootings & homicides in certain cities recently are real. Not some TLR "bu bu bu but the narrative" parrot talk. People who live in the hot zones still want long term police reform, but are questioning the efforts to reduce or eliminate police depts. Also questioning some of the bail reform/prison reform measures that were taken recently, because some of the crime uptick is tied to people who were just released due to those measures.
When people are dying, they/we just want to find a way to stop/slow it down.
If people actually attended their community meetings, they'll know that the 94 crime bill would probably pass again today.
The seniors and those who work hard and just want to come home and relax, call the police on the criminal activity..
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Agree.
Peace, quiet, and quality of life. People who disturb or threaten that have to go.
These lectures and dissertations about the system/prison pipeline always leaves out the regular hard working people who live in these communities who are victimized by criminals.
We don't matter.
It would pass again today look at all the short sided nikkas who would rather just lock up all the young and lost people in their community instead of doing the hard work and fighting for economic, education and housing resources which would in itself lower crime. People in stable hosuholds and communities do not commit crime at high levels.
So your solution is to call on white daddy to come institutionalize another generation?
What you’re saying is kinda false.
The generation that got locked up because the crime bill came from relatively stable homes.
Especially down south.
