Let's keep it 100, bears haven't been the same since the Lovie Smith era

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Great coaches don't put a horrible team on the field.
of course they do, its lovies first year. go look at beli's record in cleveland. or bill walsh first season in SF. or parcells first season with giants. and thats no-doubt HoF coaches.

with that said, I wouldnt say lovie is a 'great' coach, but he knew his shyt on defense.
 

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playing good defense is outdated in todays nfl ? :heh: because thats what lovie did in chicago. lovie is a former defensive coordinator.


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Where there fukk did I say anything about "playing good defense is outdated"?

Besides how is Lovie D in Tampa?????

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Lovie runs a cover 2 scheme, that shyt doesn't work anymore. Teams are going vertically and that little sweet spot between the cb flat and fs/ss deep have is getting chewed up by NFL teams.

Its WAY to easy to beat with 3+ wr formation
 

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Where there fukk did I say anything about "playing good defense is outdated"?

Besides how is Lovie D in Tampa?????

:troll:


Lovie runs a cover 2 scheme, that shyt doesn't work anymore. Teams are going vertically and that little sweet spot between the cb flat and fs/ss deep have is getting chewed up by NFL teams.

Its WAY to easy to beat with 3+ wr formation
judge a coach off his first year with a dysfunctional team brehs :troll:

tampa 2 isnt outdated, it just needs good personnel and a lot of understanding between lbs, corners and safeties. you have dudes who cant really play zone in goldson, etc in tampa.
just like with any other scheme, disguising it does wonders (ie no pure tampa 2 100% of the time...dont make it your base)

a ton of teams play tampa 2 as a change of pace or even the dominating scheme, they just mix in other type of coverages to keep offenses honest.
 

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judge a coach off his first year with a dysfunctional team brehs :troll:

tampa 2 isnt outdated, it just needs good personnel and a lot of understanding between lbs, corners and safeties. you have dudes who cant really play zone in goldson, etc in tampa.
just like with any other scheme, disguising it does wonders (ie no pure tampa 2 100% of the time...dont make it your base)

a ton of teams play tampa 2 as a change of pace or even the dominating scheme, they just mix in other type of coverages to keep offenses honest.

You have a dominate 3 tech in McCoy and a Derrick Brooks clone in Lavonte David. Rest of the Bucs is pretty solid too

Lovie won't have the time to sit back for 5 years and wait for team the team to gel.

The fact they are getting the breaks beaten off consistently shows he isn't even making them competitive.
 

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You have a dominate 3 tech in McCoy and a Derrick Brooks clone in Lavonte David. Rest of the Bucs is pretty solid too

Lovie won't have the time to sit back for 5 years and wait for team the team to gel.

The fact they are getting the breaks beaten off consistently shows he isn't even making them competitive.
actually they've been competitive in every game but 2. And by competitive in those 6 losses they only lost one by more than 6 points and that was the 10 point loss to ATL and they even went to OT twice. Now granted the competition in those games has been relatively wek
 

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judge a coach off his first year with a dysfunctional team brehs :troll:

tampa 2 isnt outdated, it just needs good personnel and a lot of understanding between lbs, corners and safeties. you have dudes who cant really play zone in goldson, etc in tampa.
just like with any other scheme, disguising it does wonders (ie no pure tampa 2 100% of the time...dont make it your base)

a ton of teams play tampa 2 as a change of pace or even the dominating scheme, they just mix in other type of coverages to keep offenses honest.
Lovie isn't a first year coach nikka and the talent they have down their is a lot better than some teams with better records.
 

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Bears on some Goldilocks shyt. One coach had a good D but no offense, the other coach has good offense (supposedly) but no defense lol.

They need to find a coaching staff that's "just right" and stop wasting the talent on the field.
 
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