‘Let’s Kick Islam & Christianity out of Africa’ - interview with Nigerian activist Jd Otit

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

'White Supremacy'.......working as-intended since 1691.

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[tmonster]

When were Africans united prior to the arrival of Islam and Christianity? Even if exclude religion, there's not much re-uniting someone from Senegal and Mozambique, other than living in the same big ass continent and sharing the "same skin color"? What is "Africaness" and why would people identify by skin color (never mind there lots of Africanw with varying skin colors) but not with religion? Does bonding by "color" makes sense? I guess people that identified themselves with the same color never fought against each other What about tribalism/ethnocentrism differences still existing in Africa? What is this utopia this guy living in?

Ethiopia had its own christainity going on before any european slave trade in Europe. Also, Christianity mostly spread in Africa thanks to colonialism and missionaries (the religion literally exploded in the 20th century on the continent). Islam spread by conquests or by trade with several people realizing they'd have better opportunities as muslims and many muslim states did their own thing. Yes, they were extensive slave trades going on, but saying it was introduced by the slavery is dumb and innacurate AF.

Yall mouth breading idiots are nearly as bad as the religious fundies and zealots you hate.

Higher learning my ass

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

Where do you stay at? I got akhs willing to settle the score straight b.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

@Kritic please spoiler that shyt breh

So demonic

 

[TTT]

He has a very Western atheist point of view on how religion impacts Africa. He thinks religion is the predominant way people on the continent identify themselves and if you eradicate it we will be one people. Ethnic groups are a far more powerful identifier than religion, maybe it's his generalization but religion is nowhere near as powerful as tribe IMO. I have seen people send from different religion send their children to Catholic mission schools in Zimbabwe. Look at Sudan, it had civil war pitting the Muslim north and the Animist/Christian south but once the country split the Southerners started fighting among themselves. Religion is another convenient tool to rally disparate groups under especially in countries with sizable Christian and Muslim populations. Ignorance is a result on institutional failure by the Governments in providing access to education and not much of a conscious choice by people to forgo education because of some beliefs.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

He has a very Western atheist point of view on how religion impacts Africa. He thinks religion is the predominant way people on the continent identify themselves and if you eradicate it we will be one people. Ethnic groups are a far more powerful identifier than religion, maybe it's his generalization but religion is nowhere near as powerful as tribe IMO. I have seen people send from different religion send their children to Catholic mission schools in Zimbabwe. Look at Sudan, it had civil war pitting the Muslim north and the Animist/Christian south but once the country split the Southerners started fighting among themselves. Religion is another convenient tool to rally disparate groups under especially in countries with sizable Christian and Muslim populations. Ignorance is a result on institutional failure by the Governments in providing access to education and not much of a conscious choice by people to forgo education because of some beliefs.

Agreed. Breh really has a utopian and unrealistic view of the situation. It's as if he ignores the real problems facing the African continent and just generalize it to religion. If only it was as simple as that

But then again, a lot if not most atheists I've encountered on the net think similarly

 

[BaggerofTea]

Religion is a scourged that needs to be eviscerated from the planet

 

[50CentStan]

More like JD Oidiot.

 

[tmonster]

Where do you stay at? I got akhs willing to settle the score straight b.

threatening people on the web

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Islam is responsible for a lot of good things in Asia, look at the recent migrant crisis there. We shouldn't always look towards the Middle East and Africa for positive outcomes.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

bbbbut Islam & Christianity are indigenous to Africa brehs.

 

[PartyHeart]

see history

see history

non-sequitur/conflation/straw man

None of these are actual points to debate. When you feel like sharing those we can do this again.

Contrary to the defensiveness shown here, I'm actually not here to argue in defense or religion. Arguing in defense of religion to atheists would be the non-sequitur. I just know religion is not the reason for the issues in Africa. I want to know the reasoning behind the stance of those who believe it is.

There has to be more to you guys' position than "I just don't like religion "

 

[tmonster]

I'm actually not here to argue in defense or religion

good job

 

[Black Nate Grey]

Agreed. Breh really has a utopian and unrealistic view of the situation. It's as if he ignores the real problems facing the African continent and just generalize it to religion. If only it was as simple as that

But then again, a lot if not most atheists I've encountered on the net think similarly

Yup some of these guys don't understand that Religion in the western world is not the same as Religion in Africa
All they saw when they read the article was a chance to bash religion and post anecdotal evidence

Looking at it from an ignorant western perspective then Yes Religion is a big problem in Africa the news will always confuse a conflict over religion with a conflict over ethnicity.
Unlike in Europe for close to a 1000 years Islam and Christianity in Africa have largely cooperated with each other, warring over religion isn't an African thing.
Disregarding outside sources, religion isn't holding Africa back (in terms of Quality of life), it's tribalism.

I would rather get rid of tribalism and keep religion than the other way around.

Atheism in Africa = offers little to no benefit for the continent (When has it benefited any country for that matter) maybe for homosexuals, I agree the persecution has to stop.

Remove Tribalism and you have people moving as a country instead of thousands of factions yielding far more positive benefits.

That's okay though I'll let the cirlejerk continue

 

[tmonster]

Atheism in Africa = offers little to no benefit for the continent

that's a bold claim
care to support it