‘Let’s Kick Islam & Christianity out of Africa’ - interview with Nigerian activist Jd Otit

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Africa needs to get back to practicing the ATRs and free their minds from foreign ideologies, if we're going to be religious it needs to fit our agenda. Science and spirituality once coincided in Africa that needs to be reimplemented, I think our rationale would be in a lot more healthier space right now practicing something like vodou as opposed to abrahamic religions.
 

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If you believe that knowledge is power and if you also believe that religious fanaticism and religions that demand it (e.g. Christianity & Islam) are impediments to knowledge, then it follows that if you want to see Africa do well, you should suppor secular education on the continent.

If an individual wishes to bow to the white man's delusions, so be it. However it is disgusting how the religions forced upon them have infected their cultures and I'm all for finally eradicating the disease of mandatory religion.
 

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that's a bold claim
care to support it
Let's use some of the points in the OP's article.

"Africa will fare better as one people. Islam and Christianity has divided us; it has torn the fabric of brotherhood that held us together; we see ourselves as Muslims or Christians; we do not recognize what bound us together anymore - our color, our Africaness, our common adversities as a people - we rejoice at the peril of Muslims or Christians because we do not think any more as “African” but rather we label ourselves according to some Middle Eastern idiocy introduced to us through slavery."

This 'Jd Odit' claims to be African he should know Islam and Christianity didn't divide Africa or its people it was the Berlin Conference. :camby: Get all the way the FOH.
Africans don't have the labels they have today because of Middle Eastern idiocy. :heh: European colonizers created all this tribal tension dividing the continent, making people with no relation to each other suddenly become one.

"Jd Otit: Africa would prosper greatly without religion. People would not leave situations that require revolutions or human interventions to some invisible sky being, hence manufacturing the slave chains that will hold their next generations in captivity.

Today the people on top are enjoying the disunity and chaos amongst the ordinary people, these are distractions that is working very well for the African elite, “blame the devil, blame yourselves, pray to God , but never blame us, it’s always the devil’s work. “ That is the mantra of the African elite."


The absolute greatest revolutions in history have been motivated by religion or disguised under the banner of it.
The people on top have indeed held back the people of Africa, but it's not with faith, but fear.
If you speak out or act out you are assaulted, stolen from, killed, raped and threatened, the police will not help, they will actively sanction and even participate in these activities
People live in fear of the above, the switch from religion to atheism isn't going to suddenly make the people rise up against tanks, helicopters, assault rifles and bombs, he should stop kidding himself.
This is just another one of those Atheist=More intelligence, more compassion, more capable fallacies.

Jd Otit: Africa would definitely be less violent, there would be less hatred amongst Africans due to different belief system.

This point is just stupid. Less violence? Less hatred? The Bible commands them to love their neighbor, If their belief in God isn't going to make them love their rival tribe then Atheism won't do shyt.
Oh look he just called Atheism a 'belief system':leon:
This interview is trash and/or fake:camby:

Jd Otit: Africa is not overpopulated, we have more than enough for our needs, Africa is suffering not because of lack of resources to sustain its people, Africa is suffering due to the greed of the top few, Africa is facing hardship due to mismanagement that is encouraged by western powers. Everyone knows the richness within the African continent; sadly exploitation and encouragement of corruption by the West has impoverished the ordinary African. Overpopulation is not what we should be addressing, but rather corruption and confronting those who are benefiting from the African chaos .

100% agree with this point.

Jd Otit: Education and development - especially technological advancement - will improve when people stop relying and hoping on some sky Daddy as “Mr. Fix It All.” Ebola for example was able to spread due to lack of education, because some so-called “men of God” saw opportunities in people’s adversities. People were told Ebola was the result of witchcraft or some evil spirit. A little education would have gone a long way in preventing the unnecessary loss of lives through ignorance.

Education and development will improve when the people in power make the effort to build and support an infrastructure that allows such things to cultivate, this includes food and psychological health.
Less greedy leaders= Quality of life increase=Education and development=Economic prosperity.

Christianity, Islam and Atheism won't play a major part, they'll just be on the sidelines.

Last sentence was on point.

Jd Otit: I am not very concerned about religious wars in Africa, the worst are already happening now, with terror groups all over. Examples: the Somalian Al Shabab, the Nigerian Boko Haram, the Ugandan Lord’s Resistance Army (now very disorganized), ISIS taking a foothold in Northern Africa nations, like Libya. I believe these wars will not turn to major wars between nations, they will fizzle out with time.

Our fight is the fight for the mind.

Africa has people dropping religion recently, we have people declaring their atheism on FB, these instances are unheard of before, there is progress, but it might take time.

My worst fear is the future generation of Africans that might be left behind if we don’t start eradicating the biggest impediment to our progress which is religion and start contributing our quota to the development of the human race.

The thing stopping African progress can not be attributed to religion or Atheism, but the people in power both African and Non-African constantly putting their foot down on the continents throat.

In my first post I said I agree that religion in Africa (especially Islam:scusthov:) should take more of a backseat in the grand scheme of things. However getting rid of it can not solve the continents problems.:ufdup:

Though I think we disagree on this issue, I'm open minded enough to hear how you (or any one else) think Atheism would benefit Africa.:manny:
 

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It's not that atheism would benefit Africa, it's that lack of Islam/Christianity would.

It'd be one less source of conflict. I'm far from somebody who thinks that religion is the source of all of Africa's problems or anything like that, but I do think it does more harm than good.
 

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Secular education should be widely available, but getting rid of any particular religion isn't going to help the continent in any significant way. If anything it'd probably alienate those that practice said religion and only cause more unwanted schisms. If this is a real article then this nikka clearly has a bad thesis overall. Hell, the ideas of "Africanness" and "African Unity" are very new concepts in comparison to Abrahamic religions so naturally they'd take much longer to secure a foothold on the continent. However, atheism doesn't suddenly equal Pan-Africanism. Finding some final solution to tribalism is much more important than the conflict of religion. Hell, I'd go so far as to say Africa is for the most part pretty good at religious tolerance sans a few countries. It's lack of infrastructure, mismanagement, horrible leadership and lack of political opportunity for the people, conflict between tribes/clans, border disputes, it's so many reasons for Africa's current condition before you get to religion.

Understood, extremists and terrorists should be eliminated and are an impediment to development in certain parts of the continent. And the much forgotten conflict in C.A.R. is a tragic religion conflict. But again, I'd say that has more to do with lack of education and lack of opportunities on the ground. If you alleviate those two issues and if anything, simply allow more religious freedom, then you'd see the progress needed in Africa and the end of this mad dash to Europe and the Middle East. Call me crazy, but I don't think an elitist brand of atheism is gonna produce more education or opportunities. :ld:
 

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Let's use some of the points in the OP's article.

"Africa will fare better as one people. Islam and Christianity has divided us; it has torn the fabric of brotherhood that held us together; we see ourselves as Muslims or Christians; we do not recognize what bound us together anymore - our color, our Africaness, our common adversities as a people - we rejoice at the peril of Muslims or Christians because we do not think any more as “African” but rather we label ourselves according to some Middle Eastern idiocy introduced to us through slavery."

This 'Jd Odit' claims to be African he should know Islam and Christianity didn't divide Africa or its people it was the Berlin Conference. :camby: Get all the way the FOH.
Africans don't have the labels they have today because of Middle Eastern idiocy. :heh: European colonizers created all this tribal tension dividing the continent, making people with no relation to each other suddenly become one.

"Jd Otit: Africa would prosper greatly without religion. People would not leave situations that require revolutions or human interventions to some invisible sky being, hence manufacturing the slave chains that will hold their next generations in captivity.

Today the people on top are enjoying the disunity and chaos amongst the ordinary people, these are distractions that is working very well for the African elite, “blame the devil, blame yourselves, pray to God , but never blame us, it’s always the devil’s work. “ That is the mantra of the African elite."


The absolute greatest revolutions in history have been motivated by religion or disguised under the banner of it.
The people on top have indeed held back the people of Africa, but it's not with faith, but fear.
If you speak out or act out you are assaulted, stolen from, killed, raped and threatened, the police will not help, they will actively sanction and even participate in these activities
People live in fear of the above, the switch from religion to atheism isn't going to suddenly make the people rise up against tanks, helicopters, assault rifles and bombs, he should stop kidding himself.
This is just another one of those Atheist=More intelligence, more compassion, more capable fallacies.

Jd Otit: Africa would definitely be less violent, there would be less hatred amongst Africans due to different belief system.

This point is just stupid. Less violence? Less hatred? The Bible commands them to love their neighbor, If their belief in God isn't going to make them love their rival tribe then Atheism won't do shyt.
Oh look he just called Atheism a 'belief system':leon:
This interview is trash and/or fake:camby:

Jd Otit: Africa is not overpopulated, we have more than enough for our needs, Africa is suffering not because of lack of resources to sustain its people, Africa is suffering due to the greed of the top few, Africa is facing hardship due to mismanagement that is encouraged by western powers. Everyone knows the richness within the African continent; sadly exploitation and encouragement of corruption by the West has impoverished the ordinary African. Overpopulation is not what we should be addressing, but rather corruption and confronting those who are benefiting from the African chaos .

100% agree with this point.

Jd Otit: Education and development - especially technological advancement - will improve when people stop relying and hoping on some sky Daddy as “Mr. Fix It All.” Ebola for example was able to spread due to lack of education, because some so-called “men of God” saw opportunities in people’s adversities. People were told Ebola was the result of witchcraft or some evil spirit. A little education would have gone a long way in preventing the unnecessary loss of lives through ignorance.

Education and development will improve when the people in power make the effort to build and support an infrastructure that allows such things to cultivate, this includes food and psychological health.
Less greedy leaders= Quality of life increase=Education and development=Economic prosperity.

Christianity, Islam and Atheism won't play a major part, they'll just be on the sidelines.

Last sentence was on point.

Jd Otit: I am not very concerned about religious wars in Africa, the worst are already happening now, with terror groups all over. Examples: the Somalian Al Shabab, the Nigerian Boko Haram, the Ugandan Lord’s Resistance Army (now very disorganized), ISIS taking a foothold in Northern Africa nations, like Libya. I believe these wars will not turn to major wars between nations, they will fizzle out with time.

Our fight is the fight for the mind.

Africa has people dropping religion recently, we have people declaring their atheism on FB, these instances are unheard of before, there is progress, but it might take time.

My worst fear is the future generation of Africans that might be left behind if we don’t start eradicating the biggest impediment to our progress which is religion and start contributing our quota to the development of the human race.

The thing stopping African progress can not be attributed to religion or Atheism, but the people in power both African and Non-African constantly putting their foot down on the continents throat.

In my first post I said I agree that religion in Africa (especially Islam:scusthov:) should take more of a backseat in the grand scheme of things. However getting rid of it can not solve the continents problems.:ufdup:

Though I think we disagree on this issue, I'm open minded enough to hear how you (or any one else) think Atheism would benefit Africa.:manny:
:leostare:
Atheism in Africa = offers little to no benefit for the continent
 

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How would atheism benefit Africa, I had to use the article in OP since you never gave me any points on how an Atheist Africa would be better than this Africa. Again unless you or anybody else can provide tangible benefits for an Atheist Africa then I can stand firm in the fact Atheism couldn't do much of anything.
 
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