Let's look at Bradys stats before the passing rules changed

[Lifer11]

You're the idiot. Branch won a Super Bowl MVP. Brown always made plays. You said they were scrubs, what Kap played with, those are scrubs.. but I'm supposed to be impressed with Brady's stats when he had better talent than Kap?

Nope.

They were scrubs.

Super Bowl MVP means almost nothing. It's 1 game anyone can get hot for 1 game. Nick Foles isn't a HOF QB but he just looked like one for a handful of games.

Kaep played with scrubs too.

Why is there even a comparison being made? U sound like a paranoid lunatic raving on about this one subject that has nothing to do with what I said or the thread as a whole. Who compared Brady to Kaep before u? We're talking about Brady from 01 to 05 before Kaep was even in the league and before the pass friendly rule changes.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Shoot....in Big Ben's first 9 years, he had an under .500 record when forced to throw more than 25 times a game.

They're still learning.

 

[CM_Burns]

Cacs exposing themself in this thread. Brady was good, but not better than McNabb/Manning/Culpepper at the time.

 

[thashiek]

This is cool and all... but guess what....?







Nick Foles snatched a Super Bowl from ole Tommy.

 

[Colin X]

Marino threw like 44 TDs in his rookie year way before the rules changes

No.

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48
30
44


Then he NEVER crossed 30 TDs again in his career

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

No.

20
48
30
44


Then he NEVER crossed 30 TDs again in his career

Injuries piled up and he "played with scrubs" after the Marks brothers were done That's your defense for Brady...

 

[JYoung24]

So he woulda still been the best without the rule changes

He was never the best

 

[JYoung24]

They weren't scrubs. Troy Brown had 1200 yards and made the pro bowl, he always made plays. He had a bunch of crucial special teams plays too. Deion Branch was a Super Bowl MVP. David Patten had a game where he caught two TDs, rushed for 1 and threw a TD pass. David Givens was solid.

:thatman: had a 90.7 passer rating his final year with the 49ers. Why do I bring that up? because it's comparable to Brady's #s his first 5 years and Brady actually had more talent on offense. Kap in 2016 his leading receivers were Jeremy Kerley, Quinton Patton and Vance McDonald.

Would you rather have Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Kevin Faulk catching passes out of the backfield, David Patten and David Givens OR Kerley, Patton and Vance McDonald?

Let these brady stans tell it he was playing with scrubs

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Just like Edelman and Amendola those guys always found a way to be open.

Pick plays and rub routes. NE has always gotten away with that shyt. That's why they never needed elite offensive weapons for Brady and could focus all their energy on the defense.