Let's Never compare this Fraud Lebron To Kobe or Jordan

[dem bath salts]

it aint over just yet

 

[J-Fire]

hold up Jordan on the wiz kids was beasting when his knees were good. More athletic defenders...but less discipline than the 90's cats.

People act like Jordan couldn't score with the wizards against the likes of T-mac, kobe, and mcgrady.

the post game can kill all that hyper athletic dudes that can keep up with the dribble.

jordan was fine in March 2003.....but would have failed in march 2013 if he was in his prime? lol. NOPE! C'on man!

realest post up in here!

 

[Propaganda]

oh, so you're saying kobe didnt face double and triple teams? dont lie to yourself to make a point.

that nucca kobe outscored a high scoring team in 3 qtrs.
stop it.

he threw up 81 on the raptors. they tried everything, still didnt work.

kobe plays in the zone era. so he's always triple, quadruple teammed no matter what you think. there's always 2 guys waiting for him at the rim. not one. 2. they pick kobe up at the half court line. because of his deadly shooting. dont show shooting%'s. the defense knows better then to back up off of kobe. they never played jordan like that for seasons on end. how do you think jordan had the "its a big ole bucket" moment vs the blazers i believe? those idiots played mike like the spurs are playing bron now. thats cause jordan couldnt shoot the 3ball that well. his best year was the year they moved the 3 line closer. he could make shots when he was wide open from 3, or a big game winner. but he was not a consistent shooter. he tightened up his mid range game after the pistons kept hacking him to death and closing the lanes and beating the bulls. thats why i give jordan props. he went thru the fire. came out a better player. kobe came into the nba with all of jordan's tools. due to watching mike go thru it. kobe knew. "it wont be me, i will have a jumper, i will have a post game, i will shoot 3's and mid range, while also driving to the rack."

LBJ comes in with a drivers game only. then has to develop a good OPEN 3pter and a semi decent wide open mid range jumper(that hes afraid to shoot for some odd reason when the chips are on the table).

they actually didn't try anything other than straight up 1 on 1 d. sam mitchell made it a point to not double/help on him. then he stuck jalen rose on him and let kobe cook him

 

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they actually didn't try anything other than straight up 1 on 1 d. sam mitchell made it a point to not double/help on him. then he stuck jalen rose on him and let kobe cook him

they ran 2-3, 1-3-1, and box and 1. yes i heard jrose talk about how he never trapped kobe. thats because same mitchell THOUGHT "well maybe he'll stop hitting contested jumpers and stop slicing our zone defense up.

when a team plays zone and you are the main scorer. they are playing you with more then 1 guy. its the spurs wall vs lebron. notjust danny green or Klenard.

this aint jordan's era. or even kobe's early era where guys would man up and you couldnt zone up on guys. now you can just wait for a guy in the gap. shoot, thats darn near worse then a regular trap. cause at least if you split the trap you just broke free of the 2 defenders. you can get by your first guy and there's a wall waiting on you. its like football. there's a line. then the linebackers, then the Db's. 3 lines of defense. you have to break all of them as a running back to get a touch down.

now for lebron the linemen dont care about him getting 5 yards. they're like here... take it. he wont take that jumper. or he misses a couple then stops even trying. so then he meets their 2nd line of defense. which is like a combination of linemen and linebackers. Kobe on the other hand gets picked up by the line early. cause they know" if you just back off. he will KILL YOU.

remember box and 1 is only 1 man guarding you...technically but the entire box is there to deter you from the basket.

what the celtics did to kobe with kg and band was the same thing. they ran a 1-2-2- zone. or a box and 1. same difference. he gets by the first guy then there's 2 more guys. he gets by them. KG and KP are waiting on him.

lebron use to beat the celtics because they thought he was a normal super elite legendary player like all the rest. so they thought they had to push up on bron. they didnt realize"just back off" play lbj like kobe plays rondo. take the jumper.

 

[rapbeats]

it aint over just yet

who said it was over? but its over for lebron being called THE GREATEST EVER. or even being compared to jordan, kobe, etc.

he's not in their class folks. i tried to tell you this before. his game is to incomplete and his comp is to weak. i told you last year if they would have played a smarter team then okc things would have been different. lucky for them they played an unintelligent basketball team. okc beat everyone off of insane athleticism and durant's jumper.

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

Series ain't over.....y'all boys funny

 

[YouLoveMe]

Series ain't over.....y'all boys funny

Check my stats

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

thats not what i said. i said stop with MJ wasnt human talk but kobe and lbj were. nonsense.

MJ was God among mortals for sure, but he showed he was human when a real defender got up in him. GP prime example. so imagine if another god like player that was also a defender got up in him.. thats something mike never had to deal with. thats just the reality fo it.

Kobe on the other hand, unlike lebron and unlike mike. had to deal with other god like players. but yet kobe stilled rose to the top. thats why there's no LOGICAL way you can say kobe isnt on jordan's level.

again, lebron is not on kobe's level, and he's not on jordans level. i told yall this before. but yall wouldnt listen. and that wont change no matter what happens this series. now if by next season he comes out with a complete game that translates in pressure situations. i'll put LBJ right up there with kobe and jordan.

It used to be a lot of controversy surrounding those early to mid 90's Sonic teams.Specifically, their defensive scheme.A lot of teams used to complain that the refs were letting them get away with illegal defense.The Rockets were one of those teams.If you remember, the Rockets and Dream never had any success against the Sonics.

I know for sure they played a "box and 1 zone" against Mike in the finals that year.Specifically games 3-6.That's when they put Payton on Jordan as the primary defender.

I know you say "that's bullshyt, zones wasn't allowed back then", but you'd be wrong.A lot of teams played "quasi-zones" back then.Some teams where crafty enough on defense to disguise that shyt.The Knicks were another team that was efficient at that shyt.


You gotta remember, that was Mike's first Finals appearance without his father.That shyt had to be bugging him out.


Not only that, he was going through a divorce at the time.


I don't believe in any one man shutting down Mike.He could only stop himself.He was just off in that series

 

[GoldenGlove]

People Hate When Like Michael Jordan Gets Treated Like A God, But Theres Been Times In Big Games Where Guys Like Kobe And LeBron Look Human, In BIG Situations Michael Jordan Was Anything But Human

That's what the younger fans fail to understand.

When Mike got to the Finals, everybody knew they were winning it. Basically, you had to be hating your ass off to say MJ was losing a series, let alone in the Finals. It was surreal.

Being from out here and growing up while the Bulls were winning ships... there was never any doubt in my mind they would win. He was that dominant, and his team's fed off of his confidence.

You can't ever say that with Lebron, and I'll ALWAYS say that the title he won last year had a lot to do with Scott Brooks being an idiot.

 

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It used to be a lot of controversy surrounding those early to mid 90's Sonic teams.Specifically, their defensive scheme.A lot of teams used to complain that the refs were letting them get away with illegal defense.The Rockets were one of those teams.If you remember, the Rockets and Dream never had any success against the Sonics.

I know for sure they played a "box and 1 zone" against Mike in the finals that year.Specifically games 3-6.That's when they put Payton on Jordan as the primary defender.

I know you say "that's bullshyt, zones wasn't allowed back then", but you'd be wrong.A lot of teams played "quasi-zones" back then.Some teams where crafty enough on defense to disguise that shyt.The Knicks were another team that was efficient at that shyt.


You gotta remember, that was Mike's first Finals appearance without his father.That shyt had to be bugging him out.


Not only that, he was going through a divorce at the time.


I don't believe in any one man shutting down Mike.He could only stop himself.He was just off in that series

a zone back then its not remotely the same as a legal zone now. sure there's this thing called defensive 3 seconds. but jsut like their was an "illegal defense" rule. the difference is this. if you just flat out zoned a team for to long the refs would hit you with a few illegal defenses. you had to hide it. there's no hiding in a league of Zone defense. now you have guys just camping in the lane for 5 seconds which is 2 seconds more then the 3 count or having dudes poke 1 foot in then one foot out. to reset the count. that wasnt going on often back in the 80's or 90's.

GP held mike down with team help of course. but lets be clear. he did so mostly alone because he made it HELL for mike to catch the ball. mike was NEVER comfortable and the refs didnt bail him out all the time. so he had to OUT THINK, out muscle, out footwork, and hit his jumper. mike couldnt do those things on a consistent basis in that series.

prime GP vs Prime kobe. would get torched by kobe. because kobe's jumpshot is deadly from all over. his one dribble pull up is better then even mikes. his handles are better then mikes. or i should say pre hand injuries. was better then mikes. now i'm not saying he would shoot a super high fg%, guys that shoot jumpers off the dribble never do. but his fg% would not take the kind of drop mikes did vs what he normally did to people.

 

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That's what the younger fans fail to understand.

When Mike got to the Finals, everybody knew they were winning it. Basically, you had to be hating your ass off to say MJ was losing a series, let alone in the Finals. It was surreal.

Being from out here and growing up while the Bulls were winning ships... there was never any doubt in my mind they would win. He was that dominant, and his team's fed off of his confidence.

You can't ever say that with Lebron, and I'll ALWAYS say that the title he won last year had a lot to do with Scott Brooks being an idiot.

i'm not young at all and i've already called BS on that theory that only mike played like a God ALL THE TIME> thats a lie. he looked MORTAL vs GARY PAYTON. yes the bulls was a foregone winner every time. not just cause of jordan. cause of jordan, pippen, ho grant, paxson, bj, kerr, kukoc, rodman, ron harper. thats why.

the combination of all of those dudes was to much on paper and to much on the court. pure and simple.

 

[mastermind]

It used to be a lot of controversy surrounding those early to mid 90's Sonic teams.Specifically, their defensive scheme.A lot of teams used to complain that the refs were letting them get away with illegal defense.The Rockets were one of those teams.If you remember, the Rockets and Dream never had any success against the Sonics.

I know for sure they played a "box and 1 zone" against Mike in the finals that year.Specifically games 3-6.That's when they put Payton on Jordan as the primary defender.

I know you say "that's bullshyt, zones wasn't allowed back then", but you'd be wrong.A lot of teams played "quasi-zones" back then.Some teams where crafty enough on defense to disguise that shyt.The Knicks were another team that was efficient at that shyt.


You gotta remember, that was Mike's first Finals appearance without his father.That shyt had to be bugging him out.


Not only that, he was going through a divorce at the time.


I don't believe in any one man shutting down Mike.He could only stop himself.He was just off in that series

the zone stuff is fair although its different from actually being able to implement a zone without fear of a tech from the referee.

the father passing is bullshyt and the divorce happened in 2003, so thats not true.


At the end of the day, Jordan didnt play great in those finals.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

the zone stuff is fair although its different from actually being able to implement a zone without fear of a tech from the referee.

the father passing is bullshyt and the divorce happened in 2003, so thats not true.


At the end of the day, Jordan didnt play great in those finals.

I can't say his father not being there is bullshyt.That was his first Finals appearance without his pops, he had to be feeling that void.


You're right about the divorce.It was just a lot of rumblings about Juanita leaving him at that time.That's when the rumor was going around that Mike cheated on Juanita and had a another baby on the way.I think that was the time he "talked her out of it".

 

[mastermind]

I can't say his father not being there is bullshyt.

breh, he had 3 years to deal with that. Its a reach and a very fukked up one at that.

GP and Sonics D'ed him up. Give them credit.

It was just a lot of rumblings about Juanita leaving him at that time.

untrue

 

[GoldenGlove]

i'm not young at all and i've already called BS on that theory that only mike played like a God ALL THE TIME> thats a lie. he looked MORTAL vs GARY PAYTON. yes the bulls was a foregone winner every time. not just cause of jordan. cause of jordan, pippen, ho grant, paxson, bj, kerr, kukoc, rodman, ron harper. thats why.

the combination of all of those dudes was to much on paper and to much on the court. pure and simple.

Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Battier, Mike Miller, Haslem, Chalmers, Cole and all the other decent role players that MIA has had over the past 3 years should be enough for the best player in the world to dominate with.

Am I wrong?