LETS STOP THIS IF KD WAS ON THE CAVS THEY WOULDNT MAKE IT FAR

[Fortunate Lee]

Can’t believe this muhfukka @Gil Scott-Heroin is STILL letting that coward KD off the hook for that 2016 series

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Adress my points.


Stop using a suspension and that bum Bogut being injured as a constant crutch.

KD had THREE chances to close out and he couldn’t do it.

Look, as I've said time and time again, the Cavs won fair and square, and they deserved to win, but like every championship-winning squad in NBA history, they had more fortune than every other team. Draymond's suspension, Iggy/Bogut's injury, Curry's deteriorating state all had an effect on the result - a result where the Cavs essentially won the series by ONE shot.

Can’t believe this muhfukka @Gil Scott-Heroin is STILL letting that coward KD off the hook for that 2016 series

Off the hook for what? He couldn't get the job done; he underperformed; he choked - whatever you'd like to call it to appease your LeBron stannery. But the fact of the matter is, he played better version of that GS team than LeBron did. If Draymond doesn't get suspended, Bogut's injury doesn't happen, Curry's in the same state that he was against OKC, the Cavs would've lost 1-4, which is a helluva lot worse than Durant losing 3-4.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If LeBron stans haven't already reached WOAT status, they've sure reached it now. Muh'fukkas saying KD would've lost to the Pacers in the first round.

 

[camer999]

Look, as I've said time and time again, the Cavs won fair and square, and they deserved to win, but like every championship-winning squad in NBA history, they had more fortune than every other team. Draymond's suspension, Iggy/Bogut's injury, Curry's deteriorating state all had an effect on the result - a result where the Cavs essentially won the series by ONE shot.

Off the hook for what? He couldn't get the job done; he underperformed; he choked - whatever you'd like to call it to appease your LeBron stannery. But the fact of the matter is, he played better version of that GS team than LeBron did. If Draymond doesn't get suspended, Bogut's injury doesn't happen, Curry's in the same state that he was against OKC, the Cavs would've lost 1-4, which is a helluva lot worse than Durant losing 3-4.

And if Kyrie and love don’t get hurt they don’t have that 15’ ring. On top of that KD was not playing against the best version of the warriors, didn’t klay light them up when curry was gone too.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

You mean Durant was up against a full-strength Warriors squad and lost. LeBron went down 1-3 to a full strength* Warriors squad, and needed a Draymond suspension, deteriorating Curry, Iggy injury, and a Bogut injury to help bring him back. If Durant and OKC were fortunate enough to have all those things go their way, they would've beaten GS.

So Draymond didn't play game 6 and game 7

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So Draymond didn't play game 6 and game 7

So Bogut didn't get injured in G5 and never return (forcing Kerr's hand to give Ezeli minutes who was a net-negative)?
So Iggy didn't injury his back before G6 and was never the same for the rest of the series (it's no coincidence that LeBron's shooting percentages increased the moment Draymond got suspended/Iggy was dealing with an injury)?
So Curry's knee didn't swell to the size of a grapefruit after nearly every game of the series?

 

[Fortunate Lee]

Look, as I've said time and time again, the Cavs won fair and square, and they deserved to win, but like every championship-winning squad in NBA history, they had more fortune than every other team. Draymond's suspension, Iggy/Bogut's injury, Curry's deteriorating state all had an effect on the result - a result where the Cavs essentially won the series by ONE shot.

Off the hook for what? He couldn't get the job done; he underperformed; he choked - whatever you'd like to call it to appease your LeBron stannery. But the fact of the matter is, he played better version of that GS team than LeBron did. If Draymond doesn't get suspended, Bogut's injury doesn't happen, Curry's in the same state that he was against OKC, the Cavs would've lost 1-4, which is a helluva lot worse than Durant losing 3-4.

I won’t even bring up the 2015 finals.. since you talmbout luck and fortune lol

So why didn’t Curry “deteriorate” in the thunder series?? This dude is insane brehs

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And if Kyrie and love don’t get hurt they don’t have that 15’ ring.

There's far, far less evidence to support that claim than what I'm suggesting. But obviously, the series would've turned out differently if Kyrie/Love were playing.

On top of that KD was not playing against the best version of the warriors, didn’t klay light them up when curry was gone too.

Curry played every game of the WCF.

 

[camer999]

There's far, far less evidence to support that claim than what I'm suggesting. But obviously, the series would've turned out differently if Kyrie/Love were playing.

Curry played every game of the WCF.

Kevin love is a dud in the finals, but to say that Kyrie wouldn’t push them over the edge with Bron alone taking them to six and the entire team really only had to plan for him?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I won’t even bring up the 2015 finals.. since you talmbout luck and fortune lol

The difference is, we never got to see a Cavs team with a healthy Love/Kyrie v. Warriors, so we're none the wiser as to how that series would've turned out had they been healthy. We did, however, see a relatively full-strength Warriors team v. the Cavs in the '16 Finals, when they went up 3-1.

So why didn’t Curry “deteriorate” in the thunder series??

Deteriorating means to get progressively worse, so he was in a worse state against the Cavs, than he was against OKC. And make no mistake about it, Curry's mobility was limited more and more as that WCF went on. One detail that's overlooked is OKC essentially softened up the Warriors for the Cavs. Just imagine if the Cavs had to play the Thunder in the CF, and then take on the Warriors in the Finals....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Kevin love is a dud in the finals, but to say that Kyrie wouldn’t push them over the edge with Bron alone taking them to six and the entire team really only had to plan for him?

Kyrie no doubt would've given them a greater chance of winning, just not a certain one. The moment the Warriors' role players started making wide open shots was the moment the series was essentially over. Plus, the pace/physicality of the series would've been different, as the officials were mindful that the Cavs were understrength and called the series accordingly. Similar to how the Cavs got more favorable calls in the '16 Finals.

 

[Osmosis]

At this dumb shyt.

KD would not be able to thrive in a situation where he has to be the main creator. The guy has very limited playmaking skills. It would be a lot easier for teams to load up on him than it is to load up on Lebron. He’s more likely to take a tough fade away midranger than pass it cross court to an open Korver for three.

 

[Osmosis]

The difference is, we never got to see a Cavs team with a healthy Love/Kyrie v. Warriors, so we're none the wiser as to how that series would've turned out had they been healthy. We did, however, see a relatively full-strength Warriors team v. the Cavs in the '16 Finals, when they went up 3-1.

And the Cavs won. Stop it fam, you’re being disingenuous. You know Curry took another major leap between 14/15 and 15/16. The Warriors were a different animal in 2015 and that’s evident by the fact that a very limited Cavs team was able to push the series to 6. The 2016 finals is not indicative of the value a healthy Kyrie and Love would have in 2015.

 

[Fortunate Lee]

Kyrie no doubt would've given them a greater chance of winning, just not a certain one. The moment the Warriors' role players started making wide open shots was the moment the series was essentially over. Plus, the pace/physicality of the series would've been different, as the officials were mindful that the Cavs were understrength and called the series accordingly. Similar to how the Cavs got more favorable calls in the '16 Finals.

Arguing about what could’ve been is a dumb point of view. It’s like me saying the Spurs would’ve beat GS in 6 if that scumbag Zaza didn’t take out Kawhi in game 1.

Warriors were outplayed in game 5 and 6 by all time great performances that you fail/ignore to recognize. And then lost a close and nerve-racking game 7 (at their arena) with their whole team intact ‘cept for Bogut. Blame Barnes and Curry for losing that game 7..not bogut injury.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And the Cavs won. Stop it fam, you’re being disingenuous.

Before I even posted in this thread, you had LeBron stans saying KD wouldn't have made it this far with this Cavs team, and yet only now do you point out where someone is being "disingenuous".

Do better, my breh.