Lets talk about 2pac selling 5 million in 2 months and biggie selling 2 million in 2 years

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and be honest,without Pac what is Biggies career really?i actually hate the fact they have to be tied together to be honest:scust:....if only Biggie could've lived and just got killed from natural causes,better known as Hova the god in 1998:mjcry:
nikkas only throw biggie's name around here when it's a Pac thread :yeshrug:facts.
 

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If we gon talk about it lets talk about it instead of leaving out other shyt that it mentions in the very article YOU posted

i was fully aware of the other things it mentioned in the article, i was just using it still to get a point across and btw ...hmm looks like the same thing would apply for you right now as well, judging by what was also included in your quote from the article, but you also forgot to mention it... which can be seen here.

Since it was already one of 1997's most highly anticipated rap albums
According to Geoff Mayfield, Billboard's director of charts, Life After Death was ``certainly a contender to debut at No. 1

so dont act like his death is one of the sole factors that affected/helped its sales (note: i never said that pac's death was the sole reason why any of his albums sold well, refer back to your first reply where you mention the part about him being in death row)

One big national chain said that its sales were four times the original projection'' before Smalls was killed.
In the week after Smalls' death, about 10,000 copies of his 1994 debut,

btw, idk how you havent realized this, but in this quote from the article, theyre saying it was an estimate/projection, from the so called "One big national chain", which they happen to not even mention the real name of, so theres no real proof
You can play dumb if you want breh:sas1:,you know damn well the anticipation of what Big would say in response to Pac as well as his death helped his sales of LAD and apparently RTD too

and you know damn well the anticipation of what 2pac would say in response to Who Shot Ya (because he thought it was about him) as well as all of the other controversy circling him/life, as well as his death (which biggie didnt need for ready to die as will be proven later on in this post) accounted for a large portion of his sales (which has been proven earlier or will be proven later in this post) for alot of his albums but especially all eyez on me and don killuminati, as was already proven, so the same basic principle applies to pac as well. :sas1:


In the week after Smalls' death, about 10,000 copies of his 1994 debut,
Ready to Die,

and apparently not so much though right? ..., "10,000 copies of his 1994 debut, Ready to Die" :sas2: and like i said before ready to die had already been certified 2 times platinum before he died (pac's first two albums including thug life couldnt do this and didnt do it) (and me against the world sold the same amount as ready to die around that time (1995) because of controversy, and ill speak more on this later on in this post), so that isnt very relevant especially seeing as how that figure (10,000) apparently didnt go up to high in the grand scheme of things did it? especially when compared to that "67,000" figure that you so happened to conveniently leave out thats associated with one of pac's albums. :sas1::sas1:


...difference between me and you is I don't debate death helped Pacs sales becuz that would be stupid.

...............
,you know damn well the anticipation of what Big would say in response to Pac as well as his death helped his sales of LAD and apparently RTD too

yes but youre still talking about biggie's death helping biggie's sales and about how it basically being one of the sole reasons of his sales, which is why i continue to talk about pac's death helping his sales, and im not saying biggies death didnt help his LAD sales, because that would be stupid as well. also, 2pac's death isnt the only factor i included of why he sold well, refer back to your part about him being in death row in your first post

But Pac haters and Biggie stans always use that death helping Pacs sales as if it only applies to Pac but not Biggie sumhow,like he sold diamond without controversy or dying

thats because their argument is valid, controversy/death DID help pac more than it heped biggie. ready to die was certified gold (500,000 copies) on november 16, 1994 BEFORE any controversy/beef started. there wasnt a single pac album that received a certification until the year 1995 or later, (thug life was never given any certification) when the controversy/beef had already started and taken hold. his first three albums didnt receive a certification until 1995 and one of those albums(MATW) happened to even been released in the year 1995 (when the beef/controversy was initially really blowing up) so its clear that controversy/death helped pac way more than biggie and mightve even helped pac to sell records period.

Far as MATW being only 2 times platinum:beli:

While Shakur was in prison, the album over-took Bruce Springsteen's Greatest Hits as the best-selling album in the United States, a feat which he took pride in.[8] Shakur became the first artist to have a number one album while serving a prison sentence.[22] It achieved multi platinum status and has sold 3,524,567 copies in the United States as of 2011.[25]
Tupac Shakur's virtual appearance on the annual Coachella Festival (April 15, 2012) saw gains in sales, the album sold 1,000 copies the following week (Up by 53% from the previous week).[26]

the bolded part of the quote is proof that it took controversy and/or significant events for it to sell better, and it doesnt really matter anyways, ready to die is still certified at 4x platinum(4,000,000) and me against the world is certified 2x platinum, ...and hmm maybe that would be because theres a possibility that "3,524,567" number might not be real and/or factual because theres no proof for it and its just posted on wikipedia and a site without it actually saying "according to soundscan"? and even if it does say something like "according to soundscan" somewhere on the site and even if that number IS real, it still hasnt sold as much as ready to die

Still selling 500 copies a week in 2014

got any proof?
Why am I even arguing sales wit you nikkas when the goat is international and the highest selling rapper of all time not counting Eminem who don't count:scust:

idk you tell me, and hes the highest selling rapper of all time because: his death as was already mentioned, and even by yourself basically, "I don't debate death helped Pacs sales becuz that would be stupid", because of controversy/beef, as was already mentioned/proven as well, and because a ridiculous amount of material from him (mostly posthumously) has been released, but anyways its still quality over quantity.

the facts that still stand regardless are that:

1. Life After Death went diamond before all eyez on me did http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2014/03/the-making-of-life-after-death-many-men/
2. life after death had higher 1st week sales than all eyez on me and don killuminati
http://articles.latimes.com/1996-11-14/entertainment/ca-64364_1_don-killuminati
3. 2pac's first two albums, including thug life, COMBINED didnt sell as much as biggie's "ready to die" when they were both still alive
(look this up on riaa.com) http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2011/09/tupac-month-2pacs-discography/
4. 2pac's first two albums, including thug life, COMBINED still havent sold as much as biggie's ready to die
(look this up on riaa.com) http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2011/09/tupac-month-2pacs-discography/
5. biggie's ready to die has sold more than me against the world
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=30112254#/
6. it took 2pacalypse now 4 years just to go gold (500,000 copies)
(look this up on riaa.com)
7. it took strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. 2 years just to go platinum once (1,000,000 copies)
(look this up on riaa.com)
8. thug life still to this day, has not received a single riaa certification, (note: on wikipedia it says it has gone gold, but there is no proof)
(look this up on riaa.com)
9. Biggie's "Ready to Die" was certified double platinum (2x platinum)(2,000,000 copies) in october 1995, which was one year and one month after its release in september of '94.
(look this up on riaa.com)
10. Not one single 2pac album received a certification of Platinum from the RIAA at all until after the beef had already started.

^^^^ ....The Ten Fact Commandments. :bryan:








:takedat::takedat::umad::umad::umad: note: all of the information that i have presented in a factual manner in this and previous posts can be backed up online through credible sources, look it up if you dont believe me
 
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"i already showed proof that pac's sales skyrocketed after his death"

1.) Isn't that common sense? You gave a link of other dead artists having their sales skyrocketed after death;
"For Recording Stars, Death Is Ultimate Sales Pitch"

2.) And how did Pac contradict himself?

3.) "and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...got any proof?

"According to E.D.I., Pac's classic album has sold close to 20 million worldwide. The rapper also has paperwork to support his claims."

Sales were not counted since 1998, he was stuck at 9 million. Nobody filed the paperwork and did audit.
:umad:

@Nomad1
1. doesnt matter, i used it to get a point across
2. i never said pac contradicted himself about anything, read it again
3. "and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...how the hell could you possibly know that? are you god or some fortune teller? jesus christ some of the logic pac stans use is just embarrassing "According to E.D.I." ....exactly lol, and when i see this paperwork or see proof that it exists ill believe it. and to be quite honest, that would be their fault anyways, so regardless, life after death went diamond before all eyez on me did. and also that 20 million figure means nothing without proof as well, plus we dont know what the official worldwide sales for life after death are anyways so it doesnt matter when comparing that part of all eyez on me's sales to life after death's
 
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i call bullshyt again. where's the certification? this is the same crap like when people were saying AEOM went platinum in 4 hours FOH i'm a fan of Pac & all that but you stand go too far sometimes.
 

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Don't start with this diamond shyt :snoop:

From another post on the subject:

LAD first week sales according to wiki: 690,000
7DT first week sales according to wiki: 663,000

If we are on our "lets be reality" shyt, pac actually sold damn near twice as many physical copies with his "last" album and went on to do an ORGANIC 6 mill which is more than the "diamond" album that actually went 5...this "pac wasn't selling..." shyt is beyond flimsy.

He barely even beat him with first week sales, and that "diamond" really translates to less albums sold than 7DT in total.

The fact that this "diamond" argument is being used so frequently in these beating the dead horse ass debates is hilarious and shows how far you have to reach to try to make a point.

:pachaha:


dig it.

7DT's promotion wasnt even all that great, and it still did better than LAD, which was shoved down our throats for an entire year.

biggie wasn't more popular, he just made better albums, let's be honest, what pac album is better than LAD :rudy:

7 day theory
all eyez on me
me against the world


Pac don't got a better album than Ready to Die


7 day theory

easily.

Ready to Die sold more records than pacs 1st 3 albums combined.It took getting locked up,signing with bad boys rival label in the midst of a media driven east vs west coast beef for tutu to go plat that quick and one album sale was counted as 2 so he really sold 2.5 albums
And both bigs albums>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pacs discography

:comeon:

pac was multi-plat and became the 1st incarrcerated artist to have the #1 album in the country off of MATW.
 
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Biggie was and has never been close to tupacs popularity..don't let the east coast media propaganda fool ya
 

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One is the G.O.A.T:salute:Greatest Of All Time

The other was a P.I.G :trash: p*ssy Is Garbage:piss:on his legacy


:pachaha::salute::pacspit:@ all u faggggots who feel different:ufdup:
 

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:russ: @wordisbond1 is spanking these pac stans... @StillNotSoft talks in circles...he will say something about B.I.G. on why he is not credible but the same anology can be used on tupac as well but then he dont want to hear it :mjlol:...
Hey butthurt fagggggot thanks for neg points glad to see ur seething on the inside,:russ: another Diddy Somali Sperm slerper still mad Piggie got sent home in a box Killa Kali style:deadmanny::salute:
 
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