Lets talk about 2pac selling 5 million in 2 months and biggie selling 2 million in 2 years

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Just like Biggie's life,rhymes and persona,that picture is a FAKE!!!!! THANK YOU COME AGAIN!!!!!
@Death6six6 :usure:

http://www.donmega.com/2pac/2pac-book-author-defends-autopsy-photo.php

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

"In late 1997 Cathy Scott published "The Killing of Tupac Shakur", which contained an autopsy photo of Shakur that had been leaked by a source within the Las Vegas police department."

"Tabloid offers as high as $100K were turned down for the photo, which we reproduce above. LVMPD was not happy about the photo being leaked, but being property of the people of the United States, it is in the public domain. We reproduce it here."

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@Death6six6 :usure:

http://www.donmega.com/2pac/2pac-book-author-defends-autopsy-photo.php

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

"In late 1997 Cathy Scott published "The Killing of Tupac Shakur", which contained an autopsy photo of Shakur that had been leaked by a source within the Las Vegas police department."

"Tabloid offers as high as $100K were turned down for the photo, which we reproduce above. LVMPD was not happy about the photo being leaked, but being property of the people of the United States, it is in the public domain. We reproduce it here."

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the photo is real.
 

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@Death6six6 :usure:

http://www.donmega.com/2pac/2pac-book-author-defends-autopsy-photo.php

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

"In late 1997 Cathy Scott published "The Killing of Tupac Shakur", which contained an autopsy photo of Shakur that had been leaked by a source within the Las Vegas police department."

"Tabloid offers as high as $100K were turned down for the photo, which we reproduce above. LVMPD was not happy about the photo being leaked, but being property of the people of the United States, it is in the public domain. We reproduce it here."

:manny:
:yeshrug: i've heard so many different stories about that pic,but I think ur right the pic is real,REALER THEN PIGGIE EVER WAS!!!!!:troll:
 

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I swear im dead with the back and forth between @ucanthandlethetruth and @Death6six6

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:heh:lol was laughing at the shyt myself. RIP to that level of Hip hop which we have never seen again
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Sound like we on the same page then:sas2:...we both agree some hype and death helped they album sales....neither was doin Bone Thugs,Mc Hammer numbers without some manufactured hype and controversy...lets not act like Biggie was snoop out the gate,nikka was doin less than E40 the gawd the first week until that NY hype train came along praying they had a answer to Snoop and Deathrow:mjlol:

But just one last thing on this,Biggie actually should be close to 15 million or more on LAD based on my mathmatics....the fact he only certified diamond and Pac right on his azz you gotta give Pac some credit here don't you think:patrice:?

Biggie only had two albums,and if you wanted his music you had to buy those two albums after he died....Pac had a Greatest Hits album that went diamond btw:youngsabo:,that allowed fairweather fans to do what they do and just buy Pacs most popular shyt on one album without having to go back and buy his other albums if they wanted it.

as a logical person im sure you can understand why its not that impressive LAD went diamond first,the real question we should be asking is why is it only diamond at this point?everybody got it who want it:mjpls:?

You know what I was being humble and gracious but fukk that:rudy:....we gon compare the sales of a nikka who got two albums to choose from against a nikka who got 12 viable options to choose from:banderas:

Biggie stans I know this thread about Biggie but:camby:...Jayz stans and Eminem stans bring yalls asses in here so we can really have somebody to spar wit:pachaha:



@StillNotSoft I never said that hype and death didnt help his sales, or else i wouldnt have linked an article that had information about biggie selling well after he died now would i? :stopitslime::mjpls:

but i mean it was already obvious from the start that theres a chance that biggie sold that well with life after death because he died, because it was released weeks after he died, so we didnt need to see an article to realize that which is why i wasnt embarrassed to link it. but all eyez on me came out before pac died and did sell before he died too but i had to make a point that the sales skyrocketed after he died as well as about how well don killuminati sold even months after he died. and i was also trying to get the point across that pac was the only one who really in all honesty from the looks of things needed controversy and death to sell well and/or better because like i said earlier, not one single pac album received any certifications from the riaa before spring 1995, and late '94/early 95 was the time that the beef/huge controversy started. and, like i said a biggie album did receive a certification before 1995 or before the quad studio shooting on november 30th, 1994. ready to die was certified gold on november 16, 1994. by the time pac received any certifications for any of his albums, he had already gotten shot on november 30th, 1994, started the beef with biggie and bad boy, and had gone to jail, and did interviews from jail, not to mention also trying to beat up allen hughes, the director from menace II society in 1994 as well. so from the very beginning i was trying to get a point across, that death/controversy helped pac's sales just as much and possibly (and definitely) more than it helped biggie.

.lets not act like Biggie was snoop out the gate,nikka was doin less than E40 the gawd the first week until that NY hype train came along praying they had a answer to Snoop and Deathrow

and lets not act like 1st week sales, really matter in the grand scheme of things, especially seeing as how ready to die went gold on november 16, 1994, 2 months after its release in september of '94 and then double platinum less than a year later, and lets not act like the already legendary death row, with all of its elite/legendary producers and workers in the industry (dr. dre from NWA, dj pooh etc) didnt help snoop get those sales or anything :dahell:


But just one last thing on this,Biggie actually should be close to 15 million or more on LAD based on my mathmatics....the fact he only certified diamond and Pac right on his azz you gotta give Pac some credit here don't you think:patrice:?

so i guess according to those same mathematics all eyez on me should be at the same level or above 15 million, but in reality it just certified diamond this year. after all that alleged legal trouble "preventing" AEOM from reaching diamond status, it still is only at or around the same level as LAD. :ufdup:

Biggie only had two albums,and if you wanted his music you had to buy those two albums after he died....Pac had a Greatest Hits album that went diamond btw:youngsabo:,that allowed fairweather fans to do what they do and just buy Pacs most popular shyt on one album without having to go back and buy his other albums if they wanted it.


First of all, biggie has 6 albums (including greatest hits and notorious soundtrack and these need to be taken into consideration for overall sales), 7 including the junior mafia one (which went gold btw (check riaa.com) and thug life couldnt and still hasnt managed to do this) so i guess those so called "mathematics" that you tried to use dont really work that much now do they? and concerning ready to die: really now? so what about all those people that bought ready to die before biggie died which led to ready to die being certified double platinum (2,000,000 copies) in 1995? guess they dont exist and those sales never happened huh?
and just a heads up biggie had a greatest hits album too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_(The_Notorious_B.I.G._album) ...so i guess no one really has to buy his other albums now do they? :sas1:

btw im aware that he had a greatest hits album that went diamond, but if you really knew your facts, youd know that album, which was released in 1998, didnt go diamond until 2011, a full 13 years later after its release, so i guess the sales of that album didnt deter his other sales too much now did it, especially seeing as how the greatest hits album is a double album, meaning that the sales figure for the riaa certifications are doubled, so it really only sold 5 million ....13 years later. and lets not disregard the fact that life after death went diamond in january 2000, not even a full 3 years later after it was released. life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months, all eyez on me was released in february of 1996 and his greatest hits album wasnt released until november of '98, so people had a full 2 years and 9 months to buy all eyez on me and his other albums before the greatest hits album came out. and people did buy all eyez on me too, because all eyez on me was certified 9x platinum in june of '98, before the greatest hits album came out, which was released in november of '98 like i already mentioned. and yet, it still couldnt go diamond huh? not even in the 2 year and 9 month long span it had before the greatest hits album came out, and still, even after all those years of the alleged legal trouble "preventing" AEOM from going diamond, it only sits at diamond level, which was just achieved this year ....life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months. :youngsabo:



as a logical person im sure you can understand why its not that impressive LAD went diamond first,the real question we should be asking is why is it only diamond at this point?everybody got it who want it:mjpls:?


as a logical person, i realize that it is impressive LAD went diamond first, cause like i said (if we're still using the same "logic" here that pac's album(s), specifically all eyez on me, didnt sell better and/or go diamond cause of how many albums he had and because of his greatest hits album) pac's greatest hits album didnt come out until november of '98, a whole 2 years and 9 months after all eyez on me, and AEOM still couldnt manage to go diamond before that. ....life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months (like i already said). and 2pacalypse now, and strictly 4 my nikkaz were not even close in popularity to all eyez on me. pac even basically said this himself. "and im just startin" .... so i dont think those other albums really detered his sales of all eyez on me like i already said, cause i mean he completely disregards all of his other albums by only mentioning the sales of all eyez on me (his highest selling album) and comparing those sales to biggies only album (at the time) and saying "and im just startin" which is why he happens to not mention in the video that 2pacalypse now, thug life, and strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. combined were not even "barely" touching 2 million at all. you say/imply that you cant or shouldnt compare sales of an artist that only has "2" albums to sales of an artist (pac) who has 12 albums, but it seems that according to pac, alot of those albums dont even really exist. ....("and im just startin")

(note: i am aware that he may very well be talking about that he's only just starting with all eyez on me sales because it was released in february of '96 and that interview was done in may '96 i believe, but he still is not making himself very clear and is making it sound like he could mean hes just starting in the rap game period, and one of the reasons for that would be because he doesnt mention the sales of his other albums but only compares his highest selling (and his 4th album, 5th including thug life) album's sales to the sales of biggies only album at the time, thus his logic is about as good as that of his stans/fans)




@StillNotSoft : "You know what I was being humble and gracious but fukk that:rudy:....we gon compare the sales of a nikka who got two albums to choose from against a nikka who got 12 viable options to choose from:banderas:"

@StillNotSoft : "highest selling rapper of all time" (in reference to pac)

its funny how pac stan(s) will say that pac sold more overall but then when you try to compare biggies album sales to pac's, theyre like ...u cant compare the sales of an artist who only has 2 albums to the sales of an artist that has 12!!! ...wheres the logic in that?

...Jayz stans and Eminem stans bring yalls asses in here so we can really have somebody to spar wit

lol @ you for acting like you somehow "won" or something, you lost a long time ago so ...:camby:
 
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@StillNotSoft I never said that hype and death didnt help his sales, or else i wouldnt have linked an article that had information about biggie selling well after he died now would i? :stopitslime::mjpls:

but i mean it was already obvious from the start that theres a chance that biggie sold that well with life after death because he died, because it was released weeks after he died, so we didnt need to see an article to realize that which is why i wasnt embarrassed to link it. but all eyez on me came out before pac died and did sell before he died too but i had to make a point that the sales skyrocketed after he died as well as about how well don killuminati sold even months after he died. and i was also trying to get the point across that pac was the only one who really in all honesty from the looks of things needed controversy and death to sell well and/or better because like i said earlier, not one single pac album received any certifications from the riaa before spring 1995, and late '94/early 95 was the time that the beef/huge controversy started. and, like i said a biggie album did receive a certification before 1995 or before the quad studio shooting on november 30th, 1994. ready to die was certified gold on november 16, 1994. by the time pac received any certifications for any of his albums, he had already gotten shot on november 30th, 1994, started the beef with biggie and bad boy, and had gone to jail, and did interviews from jail, not to mention also trying to beat up allen hughes, the director from menace II society in 1994 as well. so from the very beginning i was trying to get a point across, that death/controversy helped pac's sales just as much and possibly (and definitely) more than it helped biggie.



and lets not act like 1st week sales, really matter in the grand scheme of things, especially seeing as how ready to die went gold on november 16, 1994, 2 months after its release in september of '94 and then double platinum less than a year later, and lets not act like the already legendary death row, with all of its elite/legendary producers and workers in the industry (dr. dre from NWA, dj pooh etc) didnt help snoop get those sales or anything :dahell:




so i guess according to those same mathematics all eyez on me should be at the same level or above 15 million, but in reality it just certified diamond this year. after all that alleged legal trouble "preventing" AEOM from reaching diamond status, it still is only at or around the same level as LAD. :ufdup:




First of all, biggie has 6 albums (including greatest hits and notorious soundtrack and these need to be taken into consideration for overall sales), 7 including the junior mafia one (which went gold btw (check riaa.com) and thug life couldnt and still hasnt managed to do this) so i guess those so called "mathematics" that you tried to use dont really work that much now do they? and concerning ready to die: really now? so what about all those people that bought ready to die before biggie died which led to ready to die being certified double platinum (2,000,000 copies) in 1995? guess they dont exist and those sales never happened huh?
and just a heads up biggie had a greatest hits album too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_(The_Notorious_B.I.G._album) ...so i guess no one really has to buy his other albums now do they? :sas1:

btw im aware that he had a greatest hits album that went diamond, but if you really knew your facts, youd know that album, which was released in 1998, didnt go diamond until 2011, a full 13 years later after its release, so i guess the sales of that album didnt deter his other sales too much now did it, especially seeing as how the greatest hits album is a double album, meaning that the sales figure for the riaa certifications are doubled, so it really only sold 5 million ....13 years later. and lets not disregard the fact that life after death went diamond in january 2000, not even a full 3 years later after it was released. life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months, all eyez on me was released in february of 1996 and his greatest hits album wasnt released until november of '98, so people had a full 2 years and 9 months to buy all eyez on me and his other albums before the greatest hits album came out. and people did buy all eyez on me too, because all eyez on me was certified 9x platinum in june of '98, before the greatest hits album came out, which was released in november of '98 like i already mentioned. and yet, it still couldnt go diamond huh? not even in the 2 year and 9 month long span it had before the greatest hits album came out, and still, even after all those years of the alleged legal trouble "preventing" AEOM from going diamond, it only sits at diamond level, which was just achieved this year ....life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months. :youngsabo:






as a logical person, i realize that it is impressive LAD went diamond first, cause like i said (if we're still using the same "logic" here that pac's album(s), specifically all eyez on me, didnt sell better and/or go diamond cause of how many albums he had and because of his greatest hits album) pac's greatest hits album didnt come out until november of '98, a whole 2 years and 9 months after all eyez on me, and AEOM still couldnt manage to go diamond before that. ....life after death went diamond in 2 years and 10 months (like i already said). and 2pacalypse now, and strictly 4 my nikkaz were not even close in popularity to all eyez on me. pac even basically said this himself. "and im just startin" .... so i dont think those other albums really detered his sales of all eyez on me like i already said, cause i mean he completely disregards all of his other albums by only mentioning the sales of all eyez on me (his highest selling album) and comparing those sales to biggies only album (at the time) and saying "and im just startin" which is why he happens to not mention in the video that 2pacalypse now, thug life, and strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. combined were not even "barely" touching 2 million at all. you say/imply that you cant or shouldnt compare sales of an artist that only has "2" albums to sales of an artist (pac) who has 12 albums, but it seems that according to pac, alot of those albums dont even really exist. ....("and im just startin")

(note: i am aware that he may be talking about that he's only just starting with all eyez on me sales because it was released in february of '96 and that interview was done in may '96 i believe, but he still is not making himself very clear and is making it sound like he could mean hes just starting in the rap game period, and one of the reasons for that would be because he doesnt mention the sales of his other albums but only compares his highest selling (and his 4th album, 5th including thug life) album's sales to the sales of biggies only album at the time, thus his logic is about as good as that of his stans/fans)








its funny how pac stan(s) will say that pac sold more overall but then when you try to compare biggies album sales to pac's, theyre like ...u cant compare the sales of an artist who only has 2 albums to the sales of an artist that has 12!!! ...wheres the logic in that?



lol @ you for acting like you somehow "won" or something, you lost a long time ago so ...:camby:


If first week numbers dont matter why do last week numbers matter?pac is diamond now on two albums and biggie got one now? And greatest hits came out in 98 but he had two other albums come out before that that did big numbers in 7dtthe and R U Still down...meaning fans of 2pacpac and new comers had more options...one of those options being buy pacs newest shyt.

If biggie went diamond that long ago in 95the question u should ask is why is he still stuck there?are people who want to hear biggie making tough decisions on whether to buy rtd,lad or biggie duets/born again:mjlol:....they have two choices,people who wNna hear pac have several.

Do you think biggie is more popular than pac though? U dont get why arguin who went diamond first when one artist got two diamond albums is a bit silly...maybe i should let yall biggie stans have this one since yall need it:mjlol:..but nah w.w.p.d
 

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but it seems that according to pac, alot of those albums dont even really exist. ....("and im just startin")
im :dead: at your lack of understanding. He's talking about he new tenure at DR and the success of AEOM. He's not even referring to his debut.

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And what's impressive about LAD going Diamond before AEOM? Logically AEOM can't sit at 9x plat in 98 and not go "Diamond" until 14 years later. Logically, his greatest hits can't go Diamond BEFORE AEOM. DR did not fill the paperwork to get AEOM certified. There is nothing impressive about LAD's sales compared to AEOM.
 

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im :dead: at your lack of understanding. He's talking about he new tenure at DR and the success of AEOM. He's not even referring to his debut.

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(note: i am aware that he may be talking about that he's only just starting with all eyez on me sales because it was released in february of '96 and that interview was done in may '96 i believe, but he still is not making himself very clear and is making it sound like he could mean hes just starting in the rap game period, and one of the reasons for that would be because he doesnt mention the sales of his other albums but only compares his highest selling (and his 4th album, 5th including thug life) album's sales to the sales of biggies only album at the time, thus his logic is about as good as that of his stans/fans)


@Nomad1 and im :dead: at your lack of understanding and/or reading abilities and lack of observation. at the bottom of that paragraph, right below it and above the video i linked in here, i included a note that you obviously missed or didnt understand where i said that i am fully aware that he may very well be talking about that and that he probably is talking about that. however, then i offer my take on why its still off for him to be saying all of that and comparing like that because of the fact that he doesnt mention his other albums. he only mentions the sales of his newest album, more importantly, his highest selling album and his 4th album (5th including thug life) and compares that to the sales of biggies only album at the time which is why i said it seemed that according to him his other albums didnt even really exist.

:deadmanny: fail, nice try though.
 
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@Nomad1 and im :dead: at your lack of understanding and/or reading abilities and lack of observation. at the bottom of that paragraph, right below it and above the video i linked in here, i included a note that you obviously missed or didnt understand where i said that i am fully aware that he may very well be talking about that and that he probably is talking about that. however, then i offer my take on why its still off for him to be saying all of that and comparing like that because of the fact that he doesnt mention his other albums. he only mentions the sales of his newest album, more importantly, his highest selling album and his 4th album (5th including thug life) and compares that to the sales of biggies only album at the time which is why i said it seemed that according to him his other albums didnt even really exist.

:deadmanny: fail, nice try though.
I aleady read that bit, hence my comment. When you referenced "im just getting started" he clearly means what the new possibilities DR opened up and the success with AEOM. You interpretation of the quote is a stretch.
 

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I aleady read that bit, hence my comment. When you referenced "im just getting started" he clearly means what the new possibilities DR opened up and the success with AEOM. You interpretation of the quote is a stretch.
if you already read that bit then why would you bring anything up about me quoting him on that? especially in a way that makes it look like i didnt understand it from the very beginning when i clearly did and noted that i did understand what he most likely meant by that. and then i go on to say why its still off and that it would still be off for him to be saying it all like that and comparing.

he clearly means what the new possibilities DR opened up and the success with AEOM

yes you already mentioned this, as can be seen right here below this sentence, and i already discussed it which is why i made that note in the first place.

He's talking about he new tenure at DR and the success of AEOM. He's not even referring to his debut.
 

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if you already read that bit then why would you bring anything up about me quoting him on that? especially in a way that makes it look like i didnt understand it from the very beginning when i clearly did and noted that i did understand what he most likely meant by that. and then i go on to say why its still off and that it would still be off for him to be saying it all like that and comparing.



yes you already mentioned this, as can be seen right here below this sentence, and i already discussed it which is why i made that note in the first place.
I challenged your notion that Pac "forgotten" to mention his previous albums in that video. In the original post I quoted you contradicted yourself by insinuating that Pac purposely forgotten to mention his first two albums, but then you say he may be refering to something else (the point I was arguing). Like I said before you're making a stretch. He was not even comparing his debut vs Biggie's, he was comparing his current success with AEOM and Biggie's current success with R2D. So why would he mention his previous albums? It doesn't even fit the scope of the disussion.
 

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I challenged your notion that Pac "forgotten" to mention his previous albums in that video. In the original post I quoted you contradicted yourself by insinuating that Pac purposely forgotten to mention his first two albums, but then you say he may be refering to something else (the point I was arguing). Like I said before you're making a stretch. He was not even comparing his debut vs Biggie's, he was comparing his current success with AEOM and Biggie's current success with R2D. So why would he mention his previous albums? It doesn't even fit the scope of the disussion.

@Nomad1 now ur trying to save yourself, i never "contradicted" myself, i just said or implied that it seemed to sound misleading because it could come off as if he meant that he was just starting period and i list reasons why. then i note that i am definitely aware that it most likely means hes just starting, but in terms of all eyez on me's sales and large success etc, but then i offer my take on why its still wrong for him to be saying it like that regardless and comparing and talking about things in general the way he does in the interview. its misleading even if it didnt mean he was just starting in that sort of way because it was his 4th (5 ith including thug life) and he compares his just new found (large) success to biggies success at the time, at the very least he shouldve waited until biggie had a new album out. its quality over quantity. anyways, my answer either which way is the same, if he did mean in that way, that he was just starting in his career, my answer would be the same, that its off for him to be saying that because "etc etc" (this was already talked about) and then my answer was basically the same even if he didnt mean it like that because "etc etc" (already talked about),...i think you get the point ...so i never really contradicted myself. and i know he wasnt comparing his debut to biggies, thats the whole point....isnt that obvious that he wasnt? i mean its clear he was comparing his current success (SALES) with AEOM .....to biggies current success (SALES) with ready to die. im saying its not right because its like hes acting as if those other albums didnt even exist, hes tooting his own horn way too much and giving himself too much credit. it took him 3 albums later (4 including thug life) getting shot/robbed, going to jail and being affiliated with the legendary death row to finally beat biggies one album's sales, among many other things as well, furthermore he then decides 4 mediocre albums later ( 4 because of including thug life) to decide that finally after he signs to the controversial death row to compare all eyez on me's sales to ready to die's sales....pathetic. oh well, Life Goes On :manny:


If first week numbers dont matter why do last week numbers matter?pac is diamond now on two albums and biggie got one now? And greatest hits came out in 98 but he had two other albums come out before that that did big numbers in 7dtthe and R U Still down...meaning fans of 2pacpac and new comers had more options...one of those options being buy pacs newest shyt.


Wrong. R u still down did not do that big of numbers before greatest hits and never did even after it. r u still down is a double album that never received any higher certification than 4x platinum, and its a double album like i said, so that means it really only sold 2 million. not too much in the grand scheme of things especially when compared to all eyez on me's sales and popularity. and those albums dont matter too much like i already said, because biggie also had other albums to choose from as well, and apparently people did pick and choose because born again and duets both went platinum (duets) or multi platinum (born again), so that argument is invalid which is why in my previous post i said those "mathematics"/theory doesnt really always work. also i should note that having multiple albums helps your name get out there and HELP your album sales in general if anything. its a matter of opinion, you say that you shouldnt compare because biggie had less albums and that u shouldnt compare with lad vs aeom in terms of who went diamond first because of biggie having less albums, but releasing more albums makes you more relevant and helps your album sales in general imo.

If biggie went diamond that long ago in 95the question u should ask is why is he still stuck there?are people who want to hear biggie making tough decisions on whether to buy rtd,lad or biggie duets/born again:mjlol:....they have two choices,people who wNna hear pac have several.


@StillNotSoft firstly, biggie went diamond in january 2000 with life after death, and why is pac still stuck at diamond with AEOM? you keep going around in circles and just repeating yourself. ive already given answers as to why it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things that he has other albums (2pacalypse now, strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. ,thug life) and a greatest hits album, because they never detered his sales too much. don killuminati may have been left out of the equation but you left born again out of the equation. like i said (and if i didnt say it im saying it now) pac's main catalogue was, me against the world, all eyez on me and don killuminati. so thats 3 albums in his main catalogue. and like i said biggie has 3 because they sold well enough to be considered part of his main catalogue. ready to die, life after death, and born again, and born again had already been out by the time LAD was certified diamond so it definitely counts. duets did go platinum but it didnt go platinum until the mid 2000s because thats when it was released so ill leave it out of this, so it would be 3 albums vs 3 around the time... but really its like 4 vs 3 if you include r u still down but i wouldnt include it in his main catalogue seeing as how it didnt sell all too well and because of its popularity. so technically biggie has or had one less album, so i could see why you say that u shouldnt compare sales when biggie has less albums, but its not like pac had so many other "viable" options to choose from. it might matter nowadays because of the abundance/surplus/plethora of pac albums (but not really because his main catalogue is still the same because of the lack of popularity of his other albums and lack of sales of those albums) but back around the 90s it didnt. biggie had 3 albums (even before LAD was certified diamond) in his main catalogue (in terms of sales, success, popularity) and pac had 3 or 4 as well(in terms of sales, success, popularity) yet life after death still managed to go diamond first, so once again, those mathematics/"theory" doesnt work.
Do you think biggie is more popular than pac though? U dont get why arguin who went diamond first when one artist got two diamond albums is a bit silly...maybe i should let yall biggie stans have this one since yall need it:mjlol:..but nah w.w.p.d

my answer to the bolded part is ...this quote below V. and you dont get why arguing who has two diamond albums is silly and that arguing who went diamond first does matter. all eyez on me didnt go diamond until 2014 like i already said, and even after all that alleged legal trouble, like i already said, still only sits at diamond over a decade later. eventually his albums are gonna sell that much EVENTUALLY. especially seeing as how both of his diamond albums are double albums, theyre gonna go diamond quickly too ...or wait a minute not too quickly right? both albums took over a decade to go diamond. the question u should be asking yourself is, if hes that popular and hes so much better than biggie then why have his first two albums including thug life combined, not sold as much as ready to die? and back when their catalogue size was around the same why could it still not sell as much as ready to die when combined? but wait, we're not supposed to compare the sales of an artist who only has "2" albums to that of an artist that has "12"! :mjlol: we can go back and forth on this for a long time, regardless though, that facts list i had in my earlier post(s) still stands, and it will always stand. its impressive that ready to die has sold more, (especially since it did sell more even when their catalogue size was around the same), than pac's first 2 albums (3 including thug life) combined and still has sold more. its also impressive that ready to die has sold more than me against the world and its impressive that life after death went diamond first.

Popularity has never equaled quality. Ever.


at the end of the day just always remember the man u worship sold out



http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTk0qyCwF83uoTDeauSVSX-MxXLbIT1FzuWROZxXrhIfJOIOtGQeA


http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/17022009067146000123486.jpg



and was a backup dancer wearing speedos just a tad bit before he got in to that "thug life" shyt




http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/enhanced/webdr04/18/15/enhanced-3214-1397849481-20.jpg



but hey like i said, Life Goes On! :russ:
 
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