Let's Talk About Gun Control

[CASHAPP]

Obama Supporters at the one saying he's only a small cog in the machine. That he has to tap dance to the system's music.

Which is it?

Is he the one ordering the FBI to work at the behest of big banks? Is he the one ordering illegal strikes that kill innocent children? Is he the one that chooses not to prosecute Wall Street criminals?

Because according to some of you Obama Supporters, he has no choice in those things.

So which is it legendnas? because I've heard you say that he has no real choice in those matters.

When did I ever say he has no real choice in these matters?



Are you still going to be stuck on the assault weapons ban issue, not the other proposals, and use other examples of foreign policy? I have criticized drone strikes because i absolutely hate them. I do not know why because i am an "Obama supporter" that automatically means to you that I defend the drone strikes or lack of wall street prosecution.

Did those words come out my mouth once? Or are you grouping "Obama supporters" together once again because they are strongly for something domestically while hating something else that he does in terms of foreign policy.

 

[The Real]

Only two issue I really have if this is what he proposed. Seems to border on limiting art. And studies have shown video games not to be a factor (if I recall correctly). I also don't want our schools to be prisons.

I don't like the Assualt Weapons Ban, but it doesn't make any rifles illegal, only certain aesthetics.

universal Background checks, mental health support, punishment for buying weapons for criminals I all agree with.

I don't mind if they study the video game/music/art connection. Since it's a weak argument, hopefully the study will finally end the discussion once and for all by proving how weak it is.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I think any rational person understands that the fukking President of the United States needs to have armed security.

That being said, since I'm not the President, I'd like the right to buy my own protection for my family seeing as how I am not wealthy or famous and I live in a high crime area.

I think some of these celebrities and politicians have been rich and out of touch for so long, that they don't find their high walls, armed security, security cameras, and specific police protection to be hypocritical.

Exactly my point. This fakkit LegendNas dapped your post while trying to shyt on me for saying the same thing....probably too busy jerking off to Obama on TV to pay proper attention.

 

[No1]

These are the actual orders more or less without the specifics. BP worded it in a way that may lead one to believe that they're specifically targeting videogames. They're targeting research on the causes period and videogames are going to be included in that. It'll lead to videogames being exculpated. But will you all now, calm down with all that tyranny talk

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

 

[CASHAPP]

People like will have a problem with anybody who dares to disagree with Obama. He's your God.

And people like you are the same people will accuse people like Rachel Maddow(if you even know who she is) of always defending Obama, when she has had shows where she had segments strongly criticizing drone strikes done by Obama and Indefinite sentencing without trials.

Like I told Type Username, don't put words in my mouth. No one is my "god". Are you just going to copy and paste what the other sheep are saying about banning assault military style weapons?

 

[Type Username Here]

These are the actual orders more or less without the specifics. BP worded it in a way that may lead one to believe that they're specifically targeting videogames. They're targeting research on the causes period and videogames are going to be included in that. It'll lead to videogames being exculpated. But will you all now, calm down with all that tyranny talk

Only issue I take with the orders is that it might scare off people who might need to seek some mental health. Do you know what I'm saying?


Other that, nothing seems wild.

I wish the President would have addressed the failings of our mental institutions, and how the current system only allows for these people to be dealt with when they commit criminal activities.

 

[No1]

Only issue I take with the orders is that it might scare off people who might need to seek some mental health. Do you know what I'm saying?


Other that, nothing seems wild.

I wish the President would have addressed the failings of our mental institutions, and how the current system only allows for these people to be dealt with when they commit criminal activities.

But he is specifically telling the health secretary to lead a national dialogue on mental health, and he also specifically said that this research is going to happen "even though we know that those with mental health issues are much more likely to be victims of violence than the perpetrators of violence."

I don't see this at all, he covered their flank, and if you're arguing that bringing more attention to mental health issues might make people with mental health go and hide, you're nearly advocating not doing anything at all. I don't see how signing an order for calling for a national dialogue on mental health is deterring these people. The dialogue will only benefit them.

 

[Type Username Here]

But he is specifically telling the health secretary to lead a national dialogue on mental health, and he also specifically said that this research is going to happen "even though we know that those with mental health issues are much more likely to be victims of violence than the perpetrators of violence."

I don't see this at all, he covered their flank, and if you're arguing that bringing more attention to mental health issues might make people with mental health go and hide, you're nearly advocating not doing anything at all. I don't see how signing an order for calling for a national dialogue on mental health is deterring these people. The dialogue will only benefit them.

What the fukk? I'm specifically talking about HIPPA and medical privacy.

Putting it out there and saying "you know, if you seek mental health and you think about doing this or own this, we have to tell the government" might not work as well as you think it might.

 

[No1]

What the fukk? I'm specifically talking about HIPPA and medical privacy.

Putting it out there and saying "you know, if you seek mental health and you think about doing this or own this, we have to tell the government" might not work as well as you think it might.

First off, calm down. Second, how in the world would anyone know what you're talking about when you just make general statements about the orders? I'm going to say no one knew exactly what you were talking about, but you.

Other than that, you're not making much sense with this complaint. I had professors who were doctors that already ask those questions, saying that the care acts don't prevent you from doing that is going to negatively change everything? Your other point about how these people aren't dealt with until they run into the criminal justice system is a good point though. I don't see how that wouldn't be a part of the national discussion. But I'm pretty sure that empathizing with the "Adam Lanza's" of the world right there, wouldn't play well. I think he covered the flank of those with mental issues well enough.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

They're not making a valid point at all.

The President has no choice but to have security for him and his family, that's part of the job.

It also ignores the obvious fact that his kids are at MUCH higher risk than the average kid. Obama gets death threats all the fukking time and it's plausible that someone would got at his family in order to get to him.


And lets not even discuss the fact that having armed guards in schools would assuredly result in many black males being shot because of magical shape shifting wallets and iced tea cans.

So if parents want their kids to have the same protection in light of what happened who am I or anyone else to knock it. The presidents kids have protection just incase something happens and civilians should have the same protection if they want it.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

So if parents want their kids to have the same protection in light of what happened who am I or anyone else to knock it. The presidents kids have protection just incase something happens and civilians should have the same protection if they want it.

Well for one thing most parents DON'T want that.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Everything You Need To Know About Obama's Gun Violence Prevention Proposals | ThinkProgress

 

[CASHAPP]

I noticed Cenk Uygur never covers stories like these when Obama is doing a good job, or he will dance around it since he does not have a chance to criticize him.

 

[No1]

This part right here makes no sense. They've been doing studies for decades to find a link between violence and videogames and violence in the real world and virtually every study (conducted around the globe) finds no significant link whatsoever.

I'm guess they just put that in there to make old muthafukkas feel better or something.

He worded that poorly. They're going to research the causes of violence and include videogames in that. Videogames will end up being vindicated. Why do you think all the gaming publishers are like

 

[Doctor Gonzo]

The NRA man
NRA hits Obama over

Looks like they wanna go out swinging