Let's talk about the deteriorating skill of Jay-Z

[Insensitive]

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people who think No Church In the Wild is "genius level lyricism" are reaching. Tons of cats have done stuff in that vein. See Royce Da 59's King of Kings or Canibus' No Return.

King of Kings isn't even remotely about the same thing.
It's essentially Royce saying how nice he is but doing so in a way that's beautifully descriptive and beyond simply saying "I'm Nice".

Same with No Return which has Canibus speaking from the perspective of a bunch of
people who are dying (which is fvcking dope) but nothing like the Church In The Wild verse.


The biggest difference between the three songs is what the artist is specifically referencing and talking about.

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

i still haven't picked up that Life Is Good yet. i gotta go to Best Buy and get that deluxe wit the shirt.

The more money I get, the more of a home body I become...I'm gonna go out and cop before the first week is over...just to help my man numbers...

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

"the beef on the net, it will never end/ never hit the thread less I get my Beretta in"

 

[neph27]

hov just made shiny suit theory/freemason/otis/NCITW tho

he still got something in the tank, period

 

[Insensitive]

-double post-

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The audacity of this shyt is that you used Nas a comparison. Nas who from Street's Disciple until Untitled was walking around using the same boring monotone flow and lacked passion in his voice. You can't be serious. They were the same over the past few years. Highlights and flashes of greatness, but not complete sustained excellence. But both better than everyone else. Certainly they have not deteriorated to the place Eminem is at where he's all flow and no lyrics. They both still have bars and it's only the delivery that is lacking at times. That's fixable.

I'm speaking about lyrically. If you want to talk about Nas' "monotone flow," he's always had the same delivery, and Jay's delivery is clearly better than Nas'. That's probably about the only attribute he has over Nas in terms of the technical aspects of emceeing.

But Nas hasn't deteriorated lyrically. That was never his problem. His problems throughout the years have been one, shytty beat selection and two, a lack of a cohesive identity and direction on where he wanted to go with a record, which at times would result in albums that would appear haphazard, disjointed, and inconsistent. His bars never really fell off for any period of time though. He was in rare form on LIG, sounding passionate and hungry as ever and spitting heat. He was ripping on SD, HHID, and Untitled too minus a few duds like We Make the World Go Round and that stupid song where he's making the fake mobster voice. The production just wasn't very good on those albums, and Untitled excluded, they suffered from the jumbled identity and direction I spoke of earlier. You contrast that with Jay whose lyricism has declined considerably and often sounds listless.

Shiny Suit Theory he was spitting. Obviously he can black out to that at any moment. His 3 Kings verse was good too. He was the only good thing about the song. It was the delivery that was slightly lazy. I call out a bad Hov verse when I see it.

He was spitting No Church In the Wild, Murder to Excellence, Why I Love You, his flow was impeccable on Ham (flabby live though), he was ill on New Day, flow was nice on "That's My bytch" and he was nice on Primetime and the Joy. I have no idea what you're talking about. This is like saying MJ's wack because he was better in 92 than he was in 98.

I can't remember the last time I heard Jay blackout.

His verse on 3 Kings was good??? "Mirrors on the walls in all my rooms, nikkas couldn't fukk with my daughter's room." shyt was

All those verses you mentioned on WTT except for No Church In the Wild were pretty much meh. Murder To Excellence? That was one of the best songs in recent years, but mostly because of the beat(s) and the concept of it, which was very creative (and I'm sure Kanye came up with it). Jay was okay on it, but I don't see what was so impressive.

"I dress... in Dries and other boutique stores in Paris in sheepskin coats, I silence the lamb do you know who I am, Clarice? no cheap cologne whenever I "shhsh-shhsh" uccess never smelled so sweet"

Jay still has his moments, they are just much fewer and far inbetween now. That's all I'm saying.

He already admittedly "dumbed down for his audience to double his dollars," which many purists would chastise him for, but you can understand the motive, which was to sell tons of records even if you disagree in principle. But even in those days, he had enough strong performances to make you overlook it.

Now he's in a lane where he's a multi-millionaire and can do whatever he wants creatively and he keeps giving us a lot of lazy ass sometimes pure trash rhymes without that many impressive verses to balance them out and people keep lowering the rim to 9 feet for him. None of the other GOAT lyricists, Rakim, KRS, Nas, Black Thought, Andre 3000, Common, Kool G Rap, etc. give us lazy ass bullshyt bars and verses with such frequency as he does.

You as a diehard fan of dude should stop supporting and excusing it. You should be ashamed of yourself. Call him and tell him to stop doing that.

 

[Harry B]

These are stereotypical Jay dikkrider/apologist posts.

Ad hominem attack on the messenger...check.

Boasts about Jay's "influence" and call people who don't worship him like an idol "too dumb to understand" in order to deflect from the fact that he's in decline...check.

Cliched, vacuous apple-polishing statements like "real recognize real" that try to obscure the truth...check.

Attempts to explain away his lack of lyrical prowess and creativity in recent years by saying he wants to "do different things" and "ain't trying to be lyrical no more," as if one can't grow and move in a different artistic direction and still maintain your level of lyricism....check

The only thing missing was a Jay quote. I was expecting "Do y'all listen to music or do you just skim through it?" at any moment.

You talk about Jay wanted to do different things, but that is exactly what he's not doing. He's stagnant and repeating the same thing, just in a less compelling and less skillful way.

Dude's been running out of creative gas for a minute now. The only really impressive album he's made post-fake retirement was AG, and that was delving into his past and kind of re-telling Reasonable Doubt as an older man in a sense. You might occasionally get a No Church In the Wild, but the rest of his stuff has been mostly the same old "Look at me I'm rich and I'm an icon and hang around famous white people" pleas for you to love and praise him.

What's latin for "Who the fukk are you?" and "Shut the fukk up!"

My attack on the posters is cause the message from the poster is not credible if the poster has a hidden agenda. Why the fukk would I boast about Jay-z's influence? I referenced to him doing different shyt being why people staying consistently anxious to hear what he's doing. The reason to why you are too dumb to understand, is cause you say all he raps about is "Look at em I'm rich, I hang out with white people". When BP3 and American Gangster his two latest albums had nothing to do with either money or white people. Oh he mentioned DeNiro and Frank Sinatra, get lost son.

Kingdom Come, AG, BP3 and WTT are 4 albums that sound completely different, completely different flows, completely different deliveries, topics, productions, samples.

Kingdom Come - production wise most of the album contained no samples besides the just blaze beats. It was the "new" Jay-z, the maturation. Excluding the first single, the only time he's ballin (remind you, that this is a rapper who talks about his life and he's one of the biggest ballers) is on 30 Something, the introduction and the letter to his incarcerated man who says he only wants to hear Hov talk fly shyt on the collect call. The rest of the album he's talking about it being time for certain hood nikkas to grow up, future kids, his encounters with poverty as a rich man, fame, family business, the people he lost, business and on. Mostly shyt about his real life, his real encounters and his the real shyt he observes.

WTT- Is about black excellence and everything around it.
Minus the singles he's basically ballin on Gotta Have It, Who Gon Stop Me, Illest Motherfukker alive and Prime time 4 out of 14 joints. Which is not that much compared to other rappers and being that it's an album about black excellence and the biggest ballin rapper is rapping, that's a pretty moderate ratio.


Jay mentions white dudes in 1 bar over 4 albums
Jay hater (synonymous with geek ass nas stan on The coli apparently):
Jay only talks about hanging with white people.

Jay talks about ballin on like 8 songs out of 4 LPs minus singles.
Jay hater: He only talks about ballin.


There is a reason to why people use that "Do you listen to music" line, cause you obviously don't it's either that OR you're to dumb to understand. What else could it possibly be?

 

[Harry B]

Come with facts instead of shytty ass lines, which reeks that you either are too dumb or just skim through your music. Stop trolling and make some points based on something.

And I'm still wondering why you Nas stans are in here making threads about Jay-z, the only ones that has made threads about Jay-z. A majority of the posters in this thread are also Nas stans and on. Why the fukk is that?

Big up Nas instead of trying to pull down Jay with your weak ass attempts. Nas just dropped a dope ass album and you nikkas lay more focus and energy on a Jay-z freestyle. It's fukking disgusting.

 

[VentiQuattro]

King H-O yall should know by now

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

What's latin for "Who the fukk are you?" and "Shut the fukk up!"

Calm down, Memphis Bleek.

My attack on the posters is cause the message from the poster is not credible if the poster has a hidden agenda.

lol...yes, and you can discern this hidden agenda. You have on stan-colored glasses. You live in a binary message board-stan universe where any criticism of one rapper much be covert attempt to prop up their favorite rapper. I've noticed Jay's declining skill for a minute now and thought about making the the thread before. His verse on 3 Kings was what spurred me to express my views in a thread.

Yeah, I compared him to Nas because it was a valid point of contrast, especially in light of Nas coming off of a very impressive album in top form. Those two are linked in history for obvious reasons and would be even if they never battled. It's like Magic and Bird. A career perspective on Bird and his decline that mentions Magic doesn't automatically make one a Magic stan with a hidden agenda that renders any honest observation null and void.

Why the fukk would I boast about Jay-z's influence? I referenced to him doing different shyt being why people staying consistently anxious to hear what he's doing. The reason to why you are too dumb to understand, is cause you say all he raps about is "Look at em I'm rich, I hang out with white people". When BP3 and American Gangster his two latest albums had nothing to do with either money or white people. Oh he mentioned DeNiro and Frank Sinatra, get lost son.

lol...what different shyt is he doing? BP3 had nothing to do with money or white people? BP3 was adult contemporary rap, made palatable to and targeted at mainstream white audience.

I didn't say all he raps is about is anything. But overall, his general presentation post-fake retirement outside of AG is a that of a rapper in decline begging people to love him, bragging about how rich and above other rappers he is, and how he rubs elbows with high society, and you and your chick shop at the mall and him and his chick are tearing down Bergdorfs (or whatever he said).

Sorry if I'm not too impressed by a 40 year old wannabe Jewish businessman spitting lazy rhymes telling me about how rich and distinguished he is, begging for props for his past accomplishments, but I have standards and I don't have Stockholm syndrome.

Kingdom Come, AG, BP3 and WTT are 4 albums that sound completely different, completely different flows, completely different deliveries, topics, productions, samples.

Please. From a standpoint of his rhyming, AG was the only unique album of the 4. The other 3 are basically the same shyt minus a couple of outside-the-box verses on WTT like No Church In the Wild and That's My bytch.

Kingdom Come - production wise most of the album contained no samples besides the just blaze beats. It was the "new" Jay-z, the maturation. Excluding the first single, the only time he's ballin (remind you, that this is a rapper who talks about his life and he's one of the biggest ballers) is on 30 Something, the introduction and the letter to his incarcerated man who says he only wants to hear Hov talk fly shyt on the collect call. The rest of the album he's talking about it being time for certain hood nikkas to grow up, future kids, his encounters with poverty as a rich man, fame, family business, the people he lost, business and on. Mostly shyt about his real life, his real encounters and his the real shyt he observes.

I don't know what you're talking about production for, that has nothing to do with the conversation.

So as far Jay's lyrics and theme, basically he decided he was finally a grown man at age 37 and made an album about it. How profound.

Kingdom Come was It was a weak ass mediocre effort and nobody who hasn't renounced their American citizenship to become a permanent resident of Camelstan gives that bullshyt ass album props.

WTT- Is about black excellence and everything around it.
Minus the singles he's basically ballin on Gotta Have It, Who Gon Stop Me, Illest Motherfukker alive and Prime time 4 out of 14 joints. Which is not that much compared to other rappers and being that it's an album about black excellence and the biggest ballin rapper is rapping, that's a pretty moderate ratio.

Black excellence. Of course a stan will take a catch phrase their idol came up with and try to turn it into an actual concept with depth. WTT was mostly about two rich guys having fun. The term black excellence was just a catch phrase they came up with for the dual purpose of giving you pathetic stans a way to try and feel like you're somehow part of their monetary success because you dikkride them, and to give a false veneer of some modicum of social awareness on their parts.

Jay mentions white dudes in 1 bar over 4 albums
Jay hater (synonymous with geek ass nas stan on The coli apparently):
Jay only talks about hanging with white people.

lol@you counting how many times Jay mentions a white man. He just called himself the black Axl Rose (who is a racist and once said "******s and fakkits get out of my way" in a song, btw). But again, that's neither here nor there. I'm talking about the general theme he keeps presenting repetitively is that he's above the rest of the rap game and is a part of high (white) society, rubbing elbows with Gwyneth Paltrow and meeting with Warren Buffett and Obama texts him, etc. And there's nothing wrong with that. My point is he keeps beating that drum because he has very little to say anymore other than "Look at me and love, I'm so great!" Simple question, how many songs has Jay-Z wrote that weren't about himself? I'll wait.

Jay talks about ballin on like 8 songs out of 4 LPs minus singles.
Jay hater: He only talks about ballin.

There is a reason to why people use that "Do you listen to music" line, cause you obviously don't it's either that OR you're to dumb to understand. What else could it possibly be?

You keep glossing over the fact that his lyrical ability has clearly declined and he's been getting away with spitting a lot of uninspired, bland verses for a while now.

It is pathetic how some people are so emotionally attached to their favorite artists that they can't admit that there is any legitimate criticism that can be levied against them. You love Jay-Z in the same manner that 4 year old loves his mommy. Mommy is always right. Mommy can never do any wrong. Anybody who says a word about mommy that isn't flattering must be dumb.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Come with facts instead of shytty ass lines, which reeks that you either are too dumb or just skim through your music. Stop trolling and make some points based on something.

And I'm still wondering why you Nas stans are in here making threads about Jay-z, the only ones that has made threads about Jay-z. A majority of the posters in this thread are also Nas stans and on. Why the fukk is that?

Big up Nas instead of trying to pull down Jay with your weak ass attempts. Nas just dropped a dope ass album and you nikkas lay more focus and energy on a Jay-z freestyle. It's fukking disgusting.

Yes because after all, I've spent this whole thread talking about Nas. Wait...

So you feel like you had to shyt on jay just to big up Nas??



@ your dumbass thread

You have a nas album in your avi so shut the fukk up.

cosign,....

then this nikka is always trying to point some bullshyt out.

except for ignoring his own actual stsn based bias.

nikka von doom,...stfu.

plus stop trying to point out shyt that was evident a decade ago.

just so you and the rest of the defeated nas stan.

can attempt to celebrate a false win.


art barr

Another stan thread.
It's disturbing how invested some of you are when it comes to these 2 artists. I honestly don't understand it and I'm not sure if I even want to.

Why couldn't you just make a Nas Appreciation thread if you wanted to highlight his accomplishments?

Why is it that Nas stans always try their hardest, typing up essays and shyt to try and dismay and discredit Jay?

Tell us something we haven't heard before muthaphuka

Why do Nas stans create more threads about Jay-z and post more about Jay-z than his own fans?


nikkas are so insecure about favoring Nas over Jay that they have to talk about Jay and listen to Jay all day just to write books about Jay to put him in contrast to Nas.



Jay makes different types of music, he's already impressed the "lyrical folks", he's also impressed the hipsters, the real street nikkas, the grammys, the Australians, he's got albums that was created to perform in front of 20k in countries all over the world. It's obvious that Jay doesn't give 2 fukks about the "real hiphop" geeks and has not been doing so since his first album. What's he doing next? I don't want to hear him sound like RD, I've already heard that. I don't want to hear the flow from BP I've already heard that.

Jay is the most influential and these nikkas role models cause he does something new with every album. Some nikkas are too dumb to understand this, but it's cool it wasn't meant to be easy.

Real recognize real, most rappers understand, most of hiphop media understand, most commercial media, most legends, most execs and on. People anticipate to see what Jay is gonna do next like he's been on a Hiatus even if there's only 1 year between his albums on average. The reason for this is that he's not trying to emulate RD and BP or AG or TBA or any album. And cats know this.


Gator King , don't even address me.
I'm only addressing young Nas stans, discussing with you dudes is like trying to discuss the constitution with with Bin Ladin

nas stan thread about jayz #37

As soon as I saw dudes avi was Life is Good I didnt even waste my time reading his drivel. Everyday with this shyt. I dont like how even our own peers try to use media tactics against us. You guys use the same media rhetoric just to get us to agree with you. Its not going to work or happen. Another thing I dont get is why do you always stick up for Nas like he cares about you or your opinion? He does not give ONE shyt. nikkas always coming with this lame Us versus them mentality. Stop it already and just enjoy the music. Its hip hop. Its not important nor impactful as it was before. Spend your time overanalyzing topics with actual substance instead of constantly arguing about who is better Jay Z or Nas because youre going to die and people will STILL disagree with you.

"Nas has the best solo discography of all time"


- Thread starter


this is a reactionary potshot at Jay Z in light of LIG's perceived triumph. Nothing more, nothing less.


Meanwhile, just as many if not more people were reacting similarly to WTT last year as they are this week to Nas' shyt. Only more people bought it.

VVD, everything that dude Harry said about you and Nas stans is true. I've said it time and again. The old site and now the Booth here have the done the greatest amount to make me be irritated with Nas.

I got clowned the other day by Nv-Me and got called a mad "idiot" because I said it was clownish for him to say that 20 years from now Nas will be regarded as the voice of this generation

Do you know how outlandish that shyt is? I won't even reiterate why it was. I can just copy and paste that post. In a thread bigging up Nas they found a way to deduce Jay-Z to a party rapper. Yet, no one manned up to explain how 80% of the songs on a Jay album can't be played at parties yet he is still a party rapper. Nas fans can be insufferable sometimes. And they ALWAYS find a way to reference Jay-Z while they're at it. ALWAYS.

It's crazy to me. These are two favorite rappers ever, and sitting back objectively it's clear Jay-Z has a more diverse fan base and maybe somewhere in that, the core group that vibes with Nas resent it.

Saw the Nas avi and knew there wuz bias involved but gave u a chance....then the Nas pat on the back came midway and I realized what this really wuz...u ain't slick bruh Nas. Fans giddy over this album....been a while since u had a nice Nas album huh?

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

cosign,....

then this nikka is always trying to point some bullshyt out.

except for ignoring his own actual stsn based bias.

nikka von doom,...stfu.

plus stop trying to point out shyt that was evident a decade ago.

just so you and the rest of the defeated nas stan.

can attempt to celebrate a false win.


art barr

first time i seen that lil ze gif..............props

 

[Cladyclad]

And with that said he still the best out

 

[Harry B]

Calm down, Memphis Bleek.



lol...yes, and you can discern this hidden agenda. You have on stan-colored glasses. You live in a binary message board-stan universe where any criticism of one rapper much be covert attempt to prop up their favorite rapper. I've noticed Jay's declining skill for a minute now and thought about making the the thread before. His verse on 3 Kings was what spurred me to express my views in a thread.

Yeah, I compared him to Nas because it was a valid point of contrast, especially in light of Nas coming off of a very impressive album in top form. Those two are linked in history for obvious reasons and would be even if they never battled. It's like Magic and Bird. A career perspective on Bird and his decline that mentions Magic doesn't automatically make one a Magic stan with a hidden agenda that renders any honest observation null and void.



lol...what different shyt is he doing? BP3 had nothing to do with money or white people? BP3 was adult contemporary rap, made palatable to and targeted at mainstream white audience.

I didn't say all he raps is about is anything. But overall, his general presentation post-fake retirement outside of AG is a that of a rapper in decline begging people to love him, bragging about how rich and above other rappers he is, and how he rubs elbows with high society, and you and your chick shop at the mall and him and his chick are tearing down Bergdorfs (or whatever he said).

Sorry if I'm not too impressed by a 40 year old wannabe Jewish businessman spitting lazy rhymes telling me about how rich and distinguished he is, begging for props for his past accomplishments, but I have standards and I don't have Stockholm syndrome.



Please. From a standpoint of his rhyming, AG was the only unique album of the 4. The other 3 are basically the same shyt minus a couple of outside-the-box verses on WTT like No Church In the Wild and That's My bytch.



I don't know what you're talking about production for, that has nothing to do with the conversation.

So as far Jay's lyrics and theme, basically he decided he was finally a grown man at age 37 and made an album about it. How profound.

Kingdom Come was It was a weak ass mediocre effort and nobody who hasn't renounced their American citizen to become a permanent resident of Camelstan gives that bullshyt ass album props.



Black excellence. Of course a stan will take a catch phrase their idol came up with and try to turn it into an actual concept with depth. WTT was mostly about two rich guys having fun. The term black excellence was just a catch phrase they came up with so you pathetic stans can try and feel like you're somehow part of their monetary success because you dikkride them, and to give a false veneer of some modicum of social awareness.



lol@you counting how many times Jay mentions a white man. He just called himself the black Axl Rose (who is a racist and once said "******s and fakkits get out of my way" in a song, btw). But again, that's neither here nor there. I'm talking about the general theme he keeps presenting repetitively is that he's above the rest of the rap game and is a part of high (white) society, rubbing elbows with Gwyneth Paltrow and meeting with Warren Buffet. And there's nothing wrong with that. My point is he keeps beating that drum because he has very little to say anymore other than "Look at me and love, I'm so great!" Simple question, how many songs has Jay-Z wrote that weren't solely about himself? I'll wait.



You keep glossing over the fact that his lyrical ability has clearly declined and he's been getting away with spitting a lot of uninspired, bland verses for a while now.

It is pathetic how some people are so emotionally attached to their favorite artists that they can't admit that there is any legitimate criticism that can be levied against them. You love Jay-Z in the same manner that 4 year old loves his mommy. Mommy is always right. Mommy can never do any wrong. Anybody who says a word about mommy that isn't flattering is dumb.

This is one of the most bullshyt filled posts of all time.


1. When did he mention that he hangs out with Warren Buffett and Gwyneth Paltrow on his albums? Even though he does hang out with Gwyneth Paltrow a lot, imo he should've mentioned it. Just like he mentions hanging out with Ty-Ty, OG, B-High, Yeezy and all his other friends. Why are you mad at the man for having a diverse circle of friends? Just some random google there is as many photos with Jeezy and Jay like Gwyneth Paltrow and Jay-z, and Jeezy gets s/o's in his music but you won't mention him. Just shows the agenda behind your hate and it has nothing to do with music which your lack of facts to back up your ignorant claims proves.

2. 2 outside of the Box verses? New Day, Beach chair, Lost one, welcome to the jungle, a star is born, ESOM, Venus vs Mars, Hollywood, Minority Report, Why I love you, Made in america and I can go on is the same songs? That's why I keep on thinking that you are too dumb to understand or basically just skimmed through the album.

3. Jay-z unlike most rappers, rap about his life all aspects of it, if he mentions Warhol is cause he sees it every morning in his bathroom or whatever the fukk. Jay-z is also one if not the most technical rapper of all time, he can make a song about the thing in a completely different way as far as rhyme schemes, entendres, multis, flexing a flexible ass flow, delivery, internals, multis and all that good shyt. Things you probably know nothing about, since all you can talk about is subject of matter.

Jay-z has not lost his skills, he's switched his focus in his music with every album. That's the reason to why his freestyle was a trending topic for 2 days straight World wide cause dudes has never heard that flow, that delivery from Hov before. He can go into his most comfortable zone and just spaz out like how he murked Ross on Freemasons or Drake on Lights Please or

Just pull a freestyle that lyrically outshined every album that same year as in:



But most of his fans are not trying to hear jay just do his usual thing that he did back in the 90s, his consistent sales shows that, his shows only selling out faster shows that, the interest in his verses proves that. Question is who else in rap is proving the same thing? Wayne, Kanye, Em, yep that's it the only ones that stayed consistent for 10 years and hit completely different shyt with damn near every song on their albums. What the money, influence and power has given Jay-z is the comfort and power to step out of his comfort zone.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

This is one of the most bullshyt filled posts of all time.


1. When did he mention that he hangs out with Warren Buffett and Gwyneth Paltrow on his albums? Even though he does hang out with Gwyneth Paltrow a lot, imo he should've mentioned it. Just like he mentions hanging out with Ty-Ty, OG, B-High, Yeezy and all his other friends.

Go back and read what I said, please.

2. 2 outside of the Box verses? New Day, Beach chair, Lost one, welcome to the jungle, a star is born, ESOM, Venus vs Mars, Hollywood, Minority Report, Why I love you, Made in america and I can go on is the same songs? That's why I keep on thinking that you are too dumb to understand.

And which one of those verses were impressive or are even in the league of older prime Jay-Z material?

lol...your Madden stan rating has gotta be straight 99s across the board right now. I have a basic, general premise: Jay-Z's lyricism has deteriorated. I'm not saying he's a bad artist, or even an average artists...just that he's in decline. Are you telling me you still think he's in his prime? If not, what are you so emotional for?

3. Jay-z unlike most rappers raps about his different life all aspects of it, if he mentions Warhol is cause he sees him every morning in his bathroom or whatever the fukk. Jay-z is also one if not the most technical rapper of all time, he can make a song about the thing in a completely different way as far as rhyme schemes, entendres, multis, flexing a flexible ass flow, delivery, internals, multis and all that good shyt. Things you probably know nothing about.

Yeah, he's always been a great technical emcee. That's why stans like yourself should stop defending him so vehemently while he keeps saying bullshyt like "I got a Hublot call it Tebow, I strap that bytch with a gator band, y'all nikkas play halftime, y'all nikkas like the gator band."

Jay-z has not lost his skills, he's switched his focus in his music with every album. That's the reason to why his freestyle was a trending topic for 2 days straight World wide cause dudes has never heard that flow, that delivery from Hov before. He can go into his most comfortable zone and just spaz out like how he murked Ross on Freemasons or Drake on Lights Please or

Just pull a freestyle that lyrically outshined every album that same year as in:
Jay-z Hot 97 Grammy Family Freestyle - YouTube

Yeah, he did rip Free Mason. One of his few recent shining moments. My only point is that those moments are far less frequent now and he's spitting a lot more trash. Why you can't just concede this obvious point, I have no idea.