Lettuce discuss: Bobby Roode....is he the product of his theme or his theme a product of himself

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Nobody said it was.
You literally tried to claim NJPW some how made it more acceptable for AJ to go right to the WWE program rather than Roode going straight to the WWE because he just was coming from Tna, as if any of the styles has a bearing on learning the WWE style and if there are a great deal of njpw talent that went to NXT and still aren't being called up
 
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You literally tried to claim NJPW some how made it more acceptable for AJ to go right to the WWE program rather than Roode going straight to the WWE because he just was coming from Tna, as if any of the styles has a bearing on learning the WWE style and if there are a great deal of njpw talent that went to NXT and still aren't being called up
That doesn't mean that NJPW is WWE.

In NJPW you wrestle with superior wrestlers than anyone in TNA, you are on a bigger stage than TNA, and (this is my real point) AJ got an aura of confidence and the ability to connect with crowds he didn't have in TNA. The same thing that Bobby roode has shown in nxt.

Youre making a false equvilency when I'm just talking about the ability to improve in nxt and NJPW being better than TNA.
 

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That doesn't mean that NJPW is WWE.

In NJPW you wrestle with superior wrestlers than anyone in TNA, you are on a bigger stage than TNA, and (this is my real point) AJ got an aura of confidence and the ability to connect with crowds he didn't have in TNA. The same thing that Bobby roode has shown in nxt.

Youre making a false equvilency when I'm just talking about the ability to improve in nxt and NJPW being better than TNA.
NJPW and TNA are filled with WWE rejects and never has beens, to claimit magically is better or has one better prepared than TNA which has multiple long term WWE wrestlers and people behind the scenes makes no sense.

Fact is wrestling is wrestling, everyone needs time to adjust to the WWE style and during the height of the territories and even WCW era there was no problem pulling guys from other territories and getting them in the WWE main event, there shouldn't be anything stopping that same transition today
 
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NJPW and TNA are filled with WWE rejects and never has beens, to claimit magically is better or has one better prepared than TNA which has multiple long term WWE wrestlers and people behind the scenes makes no sense.

Fact is wrestling is wrestling, everyone needs time to adjust to the WWE style and during the height of the territories and even WCW era there was no problem pulling guys from other territories and getting them in the WWE main event, there shouldn't be anything stopping that same transition today
You are welcome to think that way.
 

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You literally tried to claim NJPW some how made it more acceptable for AJ to go right to the WWE program rather than Roode going straight to the WWE because he just was coming from Tna, as if any of the styles has a bearing on learning the WWE style and if there are a great deal of njpw talent that went to NXT and still aren't being called up

Attendance at Wrestle Kingdom 10 (2016): 25K

Attendance at bound for glory (October 2015):
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:francis:

NJPW is much bigger than the dying days of TNA, it allowed AJ to grow in phenomenal ways (no pun), and gave him so much more international credibility as a wrestler, talent, and character.

I love ROODE, but there is no way that what he was doing in his last days at TNA is anything close to what AJ was doing as arguably one of the biggest characters in NJPW. Not all TNA wrestlers need NXT and not all NJPW wrestlers go straight to the main roster (Nakamura) but I think HHH and WWE got it right in both cases.
 

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Attendance at Wrestle Kingdom 10 (2016): 25K

Attendance at bound for glory (October 2015):
1,800

:francis:

NJPW is much bigger than the dying days of TNA, it allowed AJ to grow in phenomenal ways (no pun), and gave him so much more international credibility as a wrestler, talent, and character.

I love ROODE, but there is no way that what he was doing in his last days at TNA is anything close to what AJ was doing as arguably one of the biggest characters in NJPW. Not all TNA wrestlers need NXT and not all NJPW wrestlers go straight to the main roster (Nakamura) but I think HHH and WWE got it right in both cases.


Attendance doesn't matter, you work a crowd of 500 or a crowd of 25k you have to know how to work.
Like I said before you had folks coming up from territorites hitting the WWF after a few dark matches, no reason that shyt can't be done now, and again if njpw was so important and valuable to the WWF Nakamora, Kenta, Devitt, and Asuka would be in the WWE instantly instead of having to go to NXt or outside of Devitt still being in NXT
 

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He should have been in the WWE years ago. Even in TNA around 07/08 he was really good. He was always thought of among those TNA guys who would fit right in WWE (ie AJ, Abyss, and Samoa Joe) because he's just got a polished charisma and showmanship game
Most of these guys that have entered wwe recently wouldn't have got a 2nd look in those days. You are talking about a time that had, punk, edge, Rey, taker, Batista, cena, hhh e.t.c They only need these guys now because they have more wrestling programming than the talent can cover
 
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