Life After death is not a classic

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"Life After Death" has nothing in common with "AEOM" outside being Double Disc. Tupac ain't spittin no midwest style flow, Tupac didn't have the type of Storytelling Big had. Tupac did not have no hard core lyrical joints like Kick in the Door or 10 Crack Commandments that Backpackers could like. "AEOM" sounded like a Westcoast album. Biggie had tracks that appealed to every single coast based on the style of beats. "LAD" is way more versatile sound wise and Lyrically than AEOM. Also LAD only expanded on formulas from Ready To Die. So No LAD was not modeled after AEOM. It was modeled after RTD. So yes Rappers ala Jay and NaS and plenty others copied LAD blueprint as far as style and production. The only thing Pac did more of was conscious songs and on AEOM he went away from a lot of the conscious songs from his 1st 3 albums.
From a sound standpoint RTD is very similar to STRICTLY 4 MY nikkaZ. RTD is clearly better than STRICTLY. But very similar,bunch of raw east coast beats with a few radio friendly songs.As far as LAD being modeled after AEOM, Double album,CHECK. Wanna be-life goes on on ,i aint mad atcha tracks,CHECK. Responding to 2pac's 1996 ride,CHECK. Is LAD EXACTLY identical to AEOM, beatwise,naw. But it was definitely made to compete with it. iT'S VERY EVIDENT


jay on BP2 "got me feeling like 2pac after he dropped matw and AEOM"

Nas on SD makings of a perfect bytch trying to sound like pac.

I really didnt wanna be part of a big vs pac.
But ya'll nikkas making up shyt.
 

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LMBAO @ you describing all eyez on me,the album that LAD was trying to compete with and blatantly modeled after. Yet trying to credit LAD as the originator

:pacspit: and i love LAD but you're zoning

First off, no.

Now that we got that out the way, let's go further:

IF Life After Death was modeled after AEOM... it would've been different. Because IF it was modeled after AEOM...

It would've been overrun with appearances by members of Junior MAFIA, like how Tha Outlawz popped up on damn near every other song on AEOM. shyt, Cease was hangin' with BIG every damn day and didn't even get a verse on LAD :laugh:

It would've never had any stories with the depth and detail of a "Somebody's Gotta Die" or "nikkas Bleed". Cause you know, ain't a ONE of those on AEOM.

It wouldn't have been very diverse sonically or subject-wise. AEOM is dope, but most of it is with one purpose: establish that Tupac is truly on Death Row. Matter fact, the 28 tracks on AEOM didn't even have the verity of subjects that the 14 of Me Against The World did. Big was covering all kinds of ground on LAD.

And this ain't a BIG vs Pac thing, cause I love both albums. But I also love 'em both enough to know that the similarities between the two are very very few. Other than being a double album, LAD was in no way "modeled after" AEOM.
 

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First off, no.

Now that we got that out the way, let's go further:

IF Life After Death was modeled after AEOM... it would've been different. Because IF it was modeled after AEOM...

It would've been overrun with appearances by members of Junior MAFIA, like how Tha Outlawz popped up on damn near every other song on AEOM. shyt, Cease was hangin' with BIG every damn day and didn't even get a verse on LAD :laugh:

It would've never had any stories with the depth and detail of a "Somebody's Gotta Die" or "nikkas Bleed". Cause you know, ain't a ONE of those on AEOM.

It wouldn't have been very diverse sonically or subject-wise. AEOM is dope, but most of it is with one purpose: establish that Tupac is truly on Death Row. Matter fact, the 28 tracks on AEOM didn't even have the verity of subjects that the 14 of Me Against The World did. Big was covering all kinds of ground on LAD.

And this ain't a BIG vs Pac thing, cause I love both albums. But I also love 'em both enough to know that the similarities between the two are very very few. Other than being a double album, LAD was in no way "modeled after" AEOM.


lol at this bullshyt pac had alot of different subjects on all eyez on me

biggie for the most part popped bottles and shot people on life after death which im not knocking him for that but let's honest he did'nt have diverse subject matter on life after death
 

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First off, no.

Now that we got that out the way, let's go further:

IF Life After Death was modeled after AEOM... it would've been different. Because IF it was modeled after AEOM...

It would've been overrun with appearances by members of Junior MAFIA, like how Tha Outlawz popped up on damn near every other song on AEOM. shyt, Cease was hangin' with BIG every damn day and didn't even get a verse on LAD :laugh:

It would've never had any stories with the depth and detail of a "Somebody's Gotta Die" or "nikkas Bleed". Cause you know, ain't a ONE of those on AEOM.

It wouldn't have been very diverse sonically or subject-wise. AEOM is dope, but most of it is with one purpose: establish that Tupac is truly on Death Row. Matter fact, the 28 tracks on AEOM didn't even have the verity of subjects that the 14 of Me Against The World did. Big was covering all kinds of ground on LAD.

And this ain't a BIG vs Pac thing, cause I love both albums. But I also love 'em both enough to know that the similarities between the two are very very few. Other than being a double album, LAD was in no way "modeled after" AEOM.
nikkaS BLEED AND SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DIE SOUND LIKE GENERIC COMIC BOOK TALES.
Let me in on biggies wide range of subjects and also let me know what aeom was limited to. Thanks
 

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nikkaS BLEED AND SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DIE SOUND LIKE GENERIC COMIC BOOK TALES.
Let me in on biggies wide range of subjects and also let me know what aeom was limited to. Thanks

:aicmon:

It's statements like this that make nikkas' replies sound delusional...

I can't even dignify that shyt with a response.
 

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So it's a classic because of everything BUT the music? All of the versatility he displayed did not translate into the best of track type "X"


I personally felt the music was good....He perfected every type of track.

You obviously can't be from the Eastcoast....I'm a DJ and you literally could play just about anything from Life After Death in a club/concert setting and people would go crazy....The shyt is a classic, period.
 

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"Life After Death" has nothing in common with "AEOM" outside being Double Disc. Tupac ain't spittin no midwest style flow, Tupac didn't have the type of Storytelling Big had. Tupac did not have no hard core lyrical joints like Kick in the Door or 10 Crack Commandments that Backpackers could like. "AEOM" sounded like a Westcoast album. Most of the beats were by 1 Producer, Johnny J. Biggie had tracks that appealed to every single coast based on the style of beats, there was more versatility in Big's production. "LAD" is way more versatile sound wise and Lyrically than AEOM. Also LAD only expanded on formulas from Ready To Die. So No LAD was not modeled after AEOM. It was modeled after RTD. So yes Rappers ala Jay and NaS and plenty others copied LAD blueprint as far as style and production. The only thing Pac did more of was conscious songs and on AEOM he went away from a lot of the conscious songs from his 1st 3 albums.


This!!!
 

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nikkaS BLEED AND SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DIE SOUND LIKE GENERIC COMIC BOOK TALES.
Let me in on biggies wide range of subjects and also let me know what aeom was limited to. Thanks


:what::what::what::what::what::what:

I've now seen enough to where I don't even need or want to read the rest of this thread....you nikkas are clowns straight up.
 

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:what::what::what::what::what::what:

I've now seen enough to where I don't even need or want to read the rest of this thread....you nikkas are clowns straight up.

LOL, if you think that was bad, someone earlier stated "Kick in the Door and Long Kiss Goodnight" weren't that great lyrically. I've already seen in all in this thread, lol. Biggie's storytelling was like audio movies, one of the most vivid storytellers in rap history. He had every right to call himself the Hitchcock of Hip Hop.
 

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:what::what::what::what::what::what:

I've now seen enough to where I don't even need or want to read the rest of this thread....you nikkas are clowns straight up.
Both songs are boring,flat and sound forced. If you think i'm just hating,i'll compare to other BIGGIE songs to make my point.
Compare those two songs to ME AND MY bytch
 

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LOL, if you think that was bad, someone earlier stated "Kick in the Door and Long Kiss Goodnight" weren't that great lyrically. I've already seen in all in this thread, lol. Biggie's storytelling was like audio movies, one of the most vivid storytellers in rap history. He had every right to call himself the Hitchcock of Hip Hop.


I'm so glad I didn't read this whole thread.....lol I've reached the age where stuff doesn't even make me mad anymore I just let the dumb, def and blind congregate amongst themselves. Most of the boards are very young though...I'm like 26 (an old 26, my oldheads, friends and mentors are like hip hop legends and people who are like actually on) lol
 

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I'm so glad I didn't read this whole thread.....lol I've reached the age where stuff doesn't even make me mad anymore I just let the dumb, def and blind congregate amongst themselves. Most of the boards are very young though...I'm like 26 (an old 26, my oldheads, friends and mentors are like hip hop legends and people who are like actually on) lol

and im older than you, "old for my age" and im down with mad people who are "actually on" as well.

save this weak approach for actual noobs.

So it's a classic because of everything BUT the music? All of the versatility he displayed did not translate into the best of track type "X"

exactly.

these dudes dont want to hear that tho.

"Life After Death" has nothing in common with "AEOM" outside being Double Disc. Tupac ain't spittin no midwest style flow, Tupac didn't have the type of Storytelling Big had. Tupac did not have no hard core lyrical joints like Kick in the Door or 10 Crack Commandments that Backpackers could like. "AEOM" sounded like a Westcoast album. Most of the beats were by 1 Producer, Johnny J. Biggie had tracks that appealed to every single coast based on the style of beats, there was more versatility in Big's production. "LAD" is way more versatile sound wise and Lyrically than AEOM. Also LAD only expanded on formulas from Ready To Die. So No LAD was not modeled after AEOM. It was modeled after RTD. So yes Rappers ala Jay and NaS and plenty others copied LAD blueprint as far as style and production. The only thing Pac did more of was conscious songs and on AEOM he went away from a lot of the conscious songs from his 1st 3 albums.

man, all i was saying was that biggie wasnt doing anything new. he didnt reach new grounds of versatility at all. and pac had already mastered most of the songs that big was trying to do. and i wasnt even talking about AEOM.

and big's versatility is so overstated. he does a west coast track. but we ignore the fact that the chit was weak. he does a midwest double-time track where you claimed in the other thread that he mastered bone's flow, when in reality he couldnt even grasp it properly.

etc etc etc


An album doesn't obtain Classic status without an overwhelming Majority agree that it is. You making it like it's 60/40 or 50/50. It's more like 80/20, 90/10 that's why the album is revered one of the greatest rap albums ever. The album has been sampled LYRICALLY by a ton of rappers from Jay, NaS, Cube, etc, etc, etc. What rebuttals? I just hear a bunch of "Oh this song wasn't perfect, that song wasn't perfect" that's not a rebuttal. Nobody has yet been able to refute the FACT the album is already viewed as one of the greatest rap albums of all time. Cause that's the consensus already, you see when something is considered a Classic, there's a consensus. So no this album is not Heavily "Disputed" if that was the case it wouldn't be on some many magazine, fans and rappers themselves greatest albums of all time list. Again you are on an island, LAD status isn't questioned.

and like i said, the majority considered it a classic before it even dropped!! thats my f*ckin gripe!! what dont you understand.

your stanning is getting on my nerves. purposely talking in circles and twisting people's statements around.

and i never said it was a 50/50 argument. it dam sure aint 90/10 neither, or else i wouldnt bother bringing it up. i'd say more like 70/30 or 65/35.

its a classic in the same vein of GRODT. only difference is, 50 is still alive so people who fell for the hype and finally woke up, have no problem turning on it.

**prepares for this dude to do a u-turn and start the argument back over from square one, repeating the same stuff that was shut down on page 5**
 

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Happy 16th Birthday "Life After Death". It's laughable at this point for anyone to questioned it's Classic Status. But I see some in this very post tried and failed. LOL @ "Life After Death" one of the most influential albums not being Classic.

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Happy 16th Birthday "Life After Death". It's laughable at this point for anyone to questioned it's Classic Status. But I see some in this very post tried and failed. LOL @ "Life After Death" one of the most influential albums not being Classic.

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3/25/97-3/25/13

16 years already?
 
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An album has to be completely flawless to be considered classic? What? nikkas namin 2 tracks and a skit they didn't like out of how many tracks, and because of that, it's not a classic?
And are we arguing flawlessness, quality period, definition (impact/influence), acclaim, etc; some weird mix of these?
"Classic" is one of the weirdest, ill-defined terms in Hip-Hop discussion. Feels like everybody in here got a different definition.
 
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