Life After Death proves Biggie hated Pac despite what he said in interviews.

[delnegro]

Bottom line is Pac wasn't a street nikka. He got made at Stretch for not going out at quad. Any street nikka will tell you, once they got the drop on you, you give it up. I'd never get mad at my homie for that. I'm a Pac fan but he could be delusional at times....just like his stans.

 

[Broke Wave]

Pac and Big are not even in the same tiers when it comes to Artists... Pac is tier 1 with Jay Nas etc... big is Tier 2 with Raekwon Bone Thugs etc... its not the same levels breh

 

[Farrinto]

jay?

 

[Knicksman20]

Fam DMX wasn't nobody at the time. nikka made zero noise. He's saying aside from Mobb Deep. All the big names was relatively quiet. Most of the time doin behind the scenes hating. Most people didn't have the balls to diss him. Then on top of that. Before he died. He was teaming up with alot of east coast and Brooklyn cats himself. I still to this day maintain he would've patched shyt up wit Biggie had he lived. Cause he was patching it up wit mad east coast cats. And started really goin at Diddy and Henchman n such.

The beginning part of what you wrote is my point bro. That's pretty much what I said. Here it is DMX a nobody in the game going at Tupac for what he said. Like I said above, how many of the more established rappers like KRS & Rakim had diss rhymes on deck waiting for him because Pac mentioned them by name. Hell, I bet LL had rhymes on deck for him too

 

[Knicksman20]

Pac and Big are not even in the same tiers when it comes to Artists... Pac is tier 1 with Jay Nas etc... big is Tier 2 with Raekwon Bone Thugs etc... its not the same levels breh

 

[SunZoo]

Bottom line is Pac wasn't a street nikka. He got made at Stretch for not going out at quad. Any street nikka will tell you, once they got the drop on you, you give it up. I'd never get mad at my homie for that. I'm a Pac fan but he could be delusional at times....just like his stans.

If you gon speak on it speak all the way on it, acting like he was mad at him for not jumping in front of bullets. Pac felt his behavior was suspect and he was probably right.

He said them nikkas laid down before the guns came out like they were in on the whole shyt. Then instead of riding for that he starts hanging with Biggie and avoiding coming to holla at Pac while he was locked up. Anybody in their right mind, especially knowing the kind of clout Henchman has/had would think that his "new friends" got him to switch sides whether it was for money or fear.

Again it's a matter of a degree of loyalty that Pac would have shown him and Biggie that wasn't reciprocated...they were scared of Henchman (rightfully so), he wasn't.

LISTEN TO "Holla at me":

When me and you was homies
no one informed me it was all a scheme
You infiltrated my team and sold a nikkas dreams
how could you do me like that ?
I took ya family in
I put some cash in ya pocket
made you a man again
and now you let tha fear put your ass in a place
complicated to escape
It's a fools fate
without your word
your a shell of a man
I lost respect for you nikka
we can never be friends
I know i'm runnin' through your head now
what could you do ?
If it was up to you
i'd be dead now
I let tha world know nikka you a coward
You could never be live
until you die
see tha mothafukken bytch in your eye
Type of nikka, that let tha evil of tha money trap me
when ya see me nikka
You betta holla at me

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[Chip Skylark]

Biggie wasn't doing that well financially before he died
His own wife said that

Didn't Pac and big die broke?

 

[DPG]

Didn't Pac and big die broke?

$100,000 isn't broke.

 

[samtalksradio]

Lol y'all nikkas ain't gon ever stop talking about this shyt.

Shows how much them nikkas meant to hip hop R.I.P to the Kings y'all nikkas did it Pac and B.I.G y'all changed the world.

Legends R.I.P Pac and Big.

 

[Chip Skylark]

$100,000 isn't broke.

Lol Not to the average man but for two people who sold millions of records and we're the top 2 rappers of a era that isn't a lot

 

[sporticus]

Way to miss the point, OP is saying Biggie was a coward for putting on a front while PAC was alive like everything was gravy, but waited to he died to attack him like a coward...

Make a diss song about someone who died, and have the song get released after You die brehs

Except he wasn't involved with his death, didn't attack him before or after, and all this shyt is reaching.

 

[DPG]

Lol Not to the average man but for two people who sold millions of records and we're the top 2 rappers of a era that isn't a lot

Does he look broke? I bet the jewellery he's flashing here cost over $50,000.

Add his other jewellery, his cars, living expenses, the dozen music videos, studio time, family expenses, etc. etc. into the mix and it's not too surprising.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Does he look broke? I bet the jewellery he's flashing here cost over $50,000.

Add his other jewellery, his cars, living expenses, the dozen music videos, studio time, family expenses, etc. etc. into the mix and it's not too surprising.

Lmbo ok

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

What nikkas don't seem to understand when looking at the situation is that Pac was raised by Panthers. I've touched on this before.

His apparent naivete about how street nikkas moved wasn't because he was a choir boy or was soft, it was because while he was raised around the criminal element, he also saw these same people move with a code and do for their people in the process...he had a world view of the hood and of black people that pre-dated the complete dismantling of black unity and community.

This is what Thug Lyfe was about which most people gloss over...what he was really trying to do with that movement was bring Panther type codes and ethics to the streets so that the SOLDIERS out in the streets weren't fighting killing their own infantry. Yea it seems far fetched because anybody who grew up in the streets understands that after the Civil Rights movement there was no unity...but he saw what it was like BEFORE.

He wasn't soft, or dumb, he was idealistic. And when these street nikkas and AGENTS showed their hand, they killed Pac's ideals which is why he said it was dead. You can't ask somebody that hot headed to be docile, so once that somber, soul crushing reality wore off about implementing those Thug Lyfe structures and codes to the streets, his fire got directed elsewhere.

I can go in deeper, even to a spiritual level as to what Pac was on...but I can say while he sure as fukk had a big mouth and big ego, he wasn't "crazy" in the sense that he was stupid or having delusions. You look at the game and all these behind the scenes nikkas and you'll see exactly why he put himself on the cross on this final album cover...why he embraced martyrdom.

Would you call a Panther pointing out COINTELPRO agents a "snitch"? That's exactly what these "street nikkas" with no honor or code looked to him and when you take a look at it from far back he was in the right to point these nikkas out...not to the cops, but to real muthafukkas that ain't wanna get indicted or extorted by these so called "real" nikkas that didn't even play by their own rules and regulations.

Now this doesn't excuse his behavior, nobody is perfect, Pac himself woulda told you that, but he was far from a fake nikka or a coward.

As for Biggie hating Pac after all that transpired, I can't blame him. In fact I can't blame him for not wanting to stand next to Pac either after he decided to stand up to real gangstas in his backyard. Nor can I blame Pac for being upset that the same degree of loyalty that he would have given wasn't returned. Had the shoes been on the oether foot, Pac woulda rode for Biggie, to his own detriment, believe that.

They both had legit reasons to feel like they felt at whatever time, I'm fine with that, I made peace with that and I miss BOTH them nikkas as a fan.

But you can't expect him to be all somber when Pac was coming at him so viciously, but I do think their situation could have been worked out if it weren't for Puff and Suge dragging them into their personal bullshyt.

I totally get the fact he was raised by the Panthers so he had that activists side to him. I wasn't saying he was soft...he just thought he meant so much to the people no one would touch him. That thinking is false!! IMO tho he indulged in the "Thug Life" to much. That shyt lead to his demise...and unfortunately dragged BIG in that mess. He kept repeatedly involving himself in REAL street shyt.

It sucks because PAC regardless of the BS was a natural born leader. Dude coulda went on to be so much more.

As far as BIG goes again...don't know how much more PAC wanted from him. Should he have seen him in the hospital...sure, should he have visited him in jail...yeah. BIG was just a rapper a very good one at that! He rapped with so much detail you actually believed he was living that life...he wasn't tho. He put Pac on and told him to watch them dudes, I highly doubt he was in a position to do much else.

 

[mobbinfms]

Your idol Prodigy was a ballerina and suffers from sickle cell, he got in a beef with jayz and it ended his career

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