He was afraid of Marlo though, plus he NEEDED Marlo. Marlo was the one providing muscle for the co op.“I treated you like a son”
“I wasn’t made to play the son”
Wasn’t a lesson but jsut never understood this plot form the perspective of Joe. His top guy warned him repeatedly about Marlo and his real intentions and Joe chose to ignore it. What did he see in Marlo to believe in him that much. He obviously wasn’t afraid of Marlo. He couldn’t seen something unique in him. Marlo was what he showed. Nothin deep about him. He wa a merciless bloodthirsty power hungry boss.
Life Lessons 4rm The Wire?
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What I learned from the whole Marlo plotline was that neorealism, which is a theory of international relations, is so good that it even applies to everyday life as an individual.
Stringer Bell and Joe and all the other guys who were so heavily invested in cooperating followed liberal institutionalism, which is a competing theory in IR.
Both neorealism and liberal institutionalism agree on one thing, which is that the world of nations is an anarchy. There is no effective law enforcement system for world politics. If one country has a problem with another country, it can't be solved by negotiations, and it also can't be solved by taking it to a court. So it's called an anarchy in that there is no effective mechanism for solving disputes, other than military force.
Liberal institutionalists believe that if we can set up strong enough institutions, then we can work together to bring about world peace. Woodrow Wilson was one of the big believers in it. It's why he was the main force behind the creation of the League of Nations, the predecessor to the United Nations. So they believe that if we can set up a co-op between all the nations in the world, any problems that might arise can be solved by the group. "If anybody has beef, we don't have to take it to the streets, we can bring it to the group," like Stringer says when he's trying to sell the Co-Op to the others.
Neorealists believe that institutions aren't worth much, and that the only way world peace can ever be achieved is if one true superpower emerges and conquers the whole world, to such a point that nobody dares resist or fight against them. That superpower world conqueror would then be the world's police force and law court. Anybody has a dispute, you bring it to them, they settle it personally. This is basically the system that Marlo sets up in his "price of the brick going up" speech.
The problem with liberal institutionalism is that it only takes one person who doesn't want to be part of the group and who doesn't care about the group, like Hitler in the 1930s. Someone who's got his own agenda, and isn't interested in cooperating. And the whole system falls apart when that happens, just like the League of Nations did. Even if you're part of the group you have to make sure that as a collective you're strong enough to force someone who doesn't want to play ball out of the game. Or at least, force them into your group.
That's what Stringer and especially Joe overlooked. They all should have backed Avon when he went to war with Marlo. If they all worked together they would have smashed him, and then their co-op would roll on until the next time someone else tried to challenge it. But instead they just decided to sit it out. With Avon out of the picture then there was nobody left strong enough to fight Marlo, and it was inevitable that he would come to dominate them all.
Minding your business is never a bad idea.
Pride (or the excess of pride) was a big theme for many, if not all of the main characters and some of the memorable side characters. It was the downfall of McNulty, Avon, Marlo, Omar and a few others.
Pride (or the excess of pride) was a big theme for many, if not all of the main characters and some of the memorable side characters. It was the downfall of McNulty, Avon, Marlo, Omar and a few others.
Striving For Greatness
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Don’t use nor sell hard drugs
“See the thing about the old days, They the old days”
Where'd you learn about these theories?
Music Fiend
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Probably you never know how ppl will turn out. You can guess. You can see the signs, but you'll never know. You're just gonna have to accept it ir let em go
TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?
I walk around a little edgy already
Get there early
IWasntMadeToPlayTheSon
Mutant Mindframe
It’s ok to hold onto grief, just as long as you make room for everything else
thanks bubbles
thanks bubbles
IWasntMadeToPlayTheSon
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Oh I forgot my fukking screen name 
right before he killed prop joe
right before he killed prop joe
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Growing up in that environment gives some folks the impression that they’ll never be able to get out of the ghetto or be good enough to get out. Some turn to drugs to escape that reality and some sell to try to make enough dough to get out. Easier said than done.
“what, you think these nikkaz gonna get job? You think these nikkaz gonna be like let me quit this game and go to college?”
It was the subject of my previous research, I wrote a thesis where I used neorealism as a paradigm to assess imperialism in the ancient world. In the course of doing that I came across liberal institutionalism as well, but I rejected it because I thought it was foolish as an idea. And also not applicable to any time before the 20th century, because nobody even tried to create a co-op on that big a scale before the League of Nations.
This guy was my idol, it was his ideas which I extended in my research. If you want to know more about it, he goes into detail in this lecture: