Lil Wayne is a legit contender for top 10 rapper all-time

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Murder 101, The hottest nikka under the sun
I came from under the tummy busting a tommy
Or come from under your garments, your chest and your arm hit
Pow!
One to the head: now you know he dead
Now you know I play it like a pro in the game
Naw, better yet a veteran in'the hall of fame
I got that medicine; I'm better than all the names
Ay, it's Cash Money Records, man: a lawless gang
Put some water on the track, Fresh, for all his flame
Wear a helmet when you bang it, man, and guard your brain
Cause the flow is spasmatic: what they call insane
That ain't even a motherfukkin' aim. I get dough boy
And you already know that pimpin'
18, how I'm living? Young'un, show that Bentley
Stunna my Pa so you know that's in me
Gotti my mentor so don't go there with me
That was one of the hardest Wayne tracks ever.
 

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No it's not.. His TC1 and TC2, the mixtapes and how he changed the game, how he literally carried the game with his elite hooks in his prime. Some rappers, elite hooks is all they can do, Wayne mastered a lot of parts of the game which most haven't came close to. Even rappers like Biggie and Pac haven't really did that.

what are Wayne's classic tracks? The shyt that warrants a top 10 all time discussion? The WHOA shyt.
 

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this is the dumbest argument ever.

Weezy has NEVER released a song that's more than, say... 6/10. Especially compared to guys like Nas, Jay-Z, even Prodigy who frequently released 10/10 songs.

So I'm supposed to believe a guy who released 1000x mediocre songs is somehow better than a guy who released 10 incredible tracks?

Cosign mediocrity, brehs.
This is opinion laced. Most ppl would consider Prodigy only released one 10/10 track and that was Shook Ones. Most ppl would consider Jay-Z best tracks to be Empire State of Mind and HKL and both would be mentioned for the hooks more than the bars. Now hip hop heads is completely different but Hip Hop heads don't make up a majority or even close to it outside of a HH message board.
 

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This is opinion laced. Most ppl would consider Prodigy only released one 10/10 track and that was Shook Ones.

my dude... please.... STFU. You're so off the mark it's not even funny.

Most ppl would consider Jay-Z best tracks to be Empire State of Mind and HKL and both would be mentioned for the hooks more than the tracks. Now hip hop heads is completely different but Hip Hop heads don't make up a majority or even close to it outside of a HH message board.

nikka... we're talking HIP HOP :snoop:

Do you think I give 2 fux what a White grandmother in Pennsylvania thinks about Jay-Z's best material?
 

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Wayne never came close to the top 10 WHOA on any track. You talking too much dumb shyt right now.

So here's my question to you:

If Wayne never made a single song that elicits "whoa" like the top 10 all time have (and they have multiple songs/whole albums that do this), how in the fukk is Wayne top 10 all-time?
 

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The album that sold over a million one week had some well thought out lyrics but u can't listen to him for too long because he gets annoying
 

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So here's my question to you:

If Wayne never made a single song that elicits "whoa" like the top 10 all time have (and they have multiple songs/whole albums that do this), how in the fukk is Wayne top 10 all-time?
No, Wayne doesn't have a top 10 of all time track. He has a collection of music that placing him there.
 

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No, Wayne doesn't have a top 10 of all time track. He has a collection of music that placing him there.

you can't be in the top 10 without having top 10 material. Sorry. That's not how this works.

It's easier to record 1000 hours of mediocrity than to record 1 minute of genius.
 

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No it's not.. His TC1 and TC2, the mixtapes and how he changed the game, how he literally carried the game with his elite hooks in his prime. Some rappers, elite hooks is all they can do, Wayne mastered a lot of parts of the game which most haven't came close to. Even rappers like Biggie and Pac haven't really did that.


What haven't they done
This is opinion laced. Most ppl would consider Prodigy only released one 10/10 track and that was Shook Ones. Most ppl would consider Jay-Z best tracks to be Empire State of Mind and HKL and both would be mentioned for the hooks more than the bars. Now hip hop heads is completely different but Hip Hop heads don't make up a majority or even close to it outside of a HH message board.

When it comes to making a top 10 list the opinions of hip hop heads are the only ones that matter.
 

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So here's my question to you:

If Wayne never made a single song that elicits "whoa" like the top 10 all time have (and they have multiple songs/whole albums that do this), how in the fukk is Wayne top 10 all-time?
the problem with you and your logic..yu don't understand the concept of objectivity. BMJR and Tha Mobb were both WHOA moments for me and many of his fans. You may not feel that way..and that's fine. but you have to quit running around like your opinions are facts. shyt is getting old real fast
 

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the problem with you and your logic..yu don't understand the concept of objectivity. BMJR and Tha Mobb were both WHOA moments for me and many of his fans. You may not feel that way..and that's fine. but you have to quit running around like your opinions are facts. shyt is getting old real fast

blah blah blah.

"You think your opinion is God" "you think you're God" "You think everything you say is fact", "Everything is subjective"

I've heard this shyt a million times. Always from people cosigning mediocrity.

Newsflash: Great shyt stands out. Every time. We may not all agree that it's great and great in the exact same way, but it's usually pretty obvious that it's great. Especially over time. Natural consensus tends to form around these things.

It hasn't happened for Wayne and it won't happen for him. Stop forcing it. It has nothing to do with me being 'elitist' or whatever excuse y'all pull from under the rug.

Wayne does not have top 10 material. Period. I've asked to be proven wrong, to be shown these top 10 tracks I may have slept on, and y'all stay mute. I wonder why :jbhmm:

Just because you were breastfed to BMJR and it wowed you doesn't mean it wowed anyone else but you and a couple stans. Wayne is competing against rappers that have wowed all types of people, even people who love hip hop but may not care much for dude's discog.

Perfect example is KRS-1. I'm not a huge KRS fan and I barely listen to him. But he has a number of songs that wow the shyt out of me.

When you're dope, you're dope. Hip hop makes it really easy for people to recognize. Stop making excuses.
 

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Are we talking pound for pound talent, or run? Cause that's 2 different conversations that end in completely different directions.

Or are the 2 convos gonna be intertwined in here like a double helix...:ehh:
 
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