Lil Wayne is a legit contender for top 10 rapper all-time

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Outside of influence, there's another rapper who fits this description. Everybody co-signing this would look like hypocrites though for saying he doesn't.

Objectively, though (no order):

Nas
Pac
Rakim
Biggie
LL Cool J
Ice Cube
Scarface
KRS-One
Jay Z

Which of these artists would you really replace with Wayne?

you only listed 9
 

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With GOAT level artist, you can go back and listen to their music 20 30 40 years later

and it never gets old.


Don't know if Wayne is reaching that level
 

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cant be top 10 if Drake wrote your rhymes.

Edit: Gillie wrote some of his shyt too


Honestly I think they both were just using the same ghostwriter.

Lil wayne's best song is dr carter and I still have my doubts that he wrote that (and he for damn sure didn't come off the dome with it either)
 

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i think waynes biggest issue is that he doesnt have a undisputed classic, one that is fully embraced by the hip hop community as a whole, his quantity is amazing, but he doesnt have that ONE album to me that really says "yea this is going in the pantheon of hip hop history" in order to do that youd have to combined his best tracks off several tapes and albums.
 

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Yeah, he passed his prime tho but he was one of the most extremely impactful for a 10 year period. Longer than Pac and Biggie combined. Gave the game Nikki and Drake. Came in as a teenager.
 

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With GOAT level artist, you can go back and listen to their music 20 30 40 years later

and it never gets old.


Don't know if Wayne is reaching that level
Depends on brand of hip hop. I am sure there will be A LOT of stans still listening to his music talking about how music ain't the same anymore. The streets talk and Wayne is one of the biggest artist in that realm.
 

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Outside of influence, there's another rapper who fits this description. Everybody co-signing this would look like hypocrites though for saying he doesn't.

Objectively, though (no order):

Nas
Pac
Rakim
Biggie
LL Cool J
Ice Cube
Scarface
KRS-One
Jay Z
Kane

Which of these artists would you really replace with Wayne?
Most Hip Hop heads know all the names on that list but the causal or diehard local won't have any of those names outside of Jay, Nas, Biggie and Pac on that list. Cube just started getting him name mention again. Before he was known as Craig to the kids.

Honestly, the South has Wayne in the top 3. Him, Pac and Face. Of course, Outkast as a group. Women make a large % of the fanbases. Since women matter no matter what, LL, Wayne and Pac are in most women top 3. Pac for his women love, LL for the style and Wayne for being that thug that a lot of women like.
 

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Over the last two weeks, I've encountered two former Weezy stans who even forgot his catalogue. One is on that Young Thug/Drizzy shyt right now and the other is a full blown pop fan and doesn't check for hip hop. I had to remind them dude made A Milli. :dead:

And this is the nikka y'all say is top 10 all-time?
 

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Brehs acting like Around way girl didn't change the game for future rappers.



LL mixed hardcore skills with love rap songs which aspired Bobby Brown and other artist which lead the music we have today.

Seriously, the top 3 really should have LL in it. Unquestionably. Lyrics, impact, longevity, skills, popularity, Q score, he had it all as a rapper.
 

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Over the last two weeks, I've encountered two former Weezy stans who even forgot his catalogue. One is on that Young Thug/Drizzy shyt right now and the other is a full blown pop fan and doesn't check for hip hop. I had to remind them dude made A Milli. :dead:

And this is the nikka y'all say is top 10 all-time?
Those aren't stans, those are ppl that like whatever is popl.
 

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Murder 101, The hottest nikka under the sun
I came from under the tummy busting a tommy
Or come from under your garments, your chest and your arm hit
Pow!
One to the head: now you know he dead
Now you know I play it like a pro in the game
Naw, better yet a veteran in'the hall of fame
I got that medicine; I'm better than all the names
Ay, it's Cash Money Records, man: a lawless gang
Put some water on the track, Fresh, for all his flame
Wear a helmet when you bang it, man, and guard your brain
Cause the flow is spasmatic: what they call insane
That ain't even a motherfukkin' aim. I get dough boy
And you already know that pimpin'
18, how I'm living? Young'un, show that Bentley
Stunna
my Pa so you know that's in me
Gotti
my mentor so don't go there with me

best rhyme schemes are in this wayne track.
 

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Wayne's catalogue is disposable as fukk.
No it's not.. His TC1 and TC2, the mixtapes and how he changed the game, how he literally carried the game with his elite hooks in his prime. Some rappers, elite hooks is all they can do, Wayne mastered a lot of parts of the game which most haven't came close to. Even rappers like Biggie and Pac haven't really did that.
 
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