Lil Yachty said the old heads need to stop hating on the new school

[Apex]

Yachty is amazing and he right
"Hoe from 619 she mysterious"
2 dope tapes back to back plus some dope looseys and features

Idk how y'all listen to boring ass whiny joe buddden then turn around and shyt on a talented dude like lil boat shyts backwards

I find Yachty and Lil Uzi Vert boring tbh.

Cole, Sean, Drake, Kendrick, Logic are all great to me though. You'll get lyricism and you'll get entertainment at the same time.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that this is a core issue amongst the older heads. I'm an older head myself and this irks the hell out of me. Anytime quality hiphop/talent/lyricism is brought up, the word "dig" has to be used. We have to "find" rappers who actually.......RAP and meanwhile, cats who LITERALLY say that they aren't rappers (Lil Yachty) get the most shine and are FORCED down the masses throats.

What this has done is give up and coming rappers little to no incentive to actually RAP. They see these mumble, elementary, ABC type rappers getting all the fame, fortunes and IG models and they say "I want that too". So a dude who might can be the next Nas dumbs himself down to fit in with what's popping on the radio (and yes radio exposure helps ALOT contrary to what the coli says).

This same thing has happened in R&B also. There's little incentive to making REAL soulful R&B anymore and REAL singing, so young up & coming singers follow what's being played on the radio: this hybrid rap-singing over trap beats featuring the hottest in the moment rapper

Just my take on it. I just wish there was more balance as far as actual talent getting the opportunity to have a mainstream look.

Back in my day cats like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Canibus and even Pharoah Monch could be heard on mainstream platforms.

There was BALANCE.

yup. in a nutshell.

this is also why music doesn't sell anymore. not just because of the internet like they want us to think.

I was talking about this earlier. summer is just about over, and the only album with any type of profile & exposure was drake's chit. smh. what if I think drake and his ghostwriters are hot trash truck juice? theres nothing for me to buy. they changed up the soundscan system because consumers aren't buying anymore, but we stopped buying because they stopped selling to us.

I get labeled as an old man on here, even tho I'm more in tune with my ear to the streets than most of the young posters. I just don't listen to the current rappers that get talked about on here, cuz theyre corny. theres still a respectable amount of new music that I enjoy, but its all either underground or semi-underground at best. some stuff is downright obscure. I cant even make threads about most of this stuff, cuz they wont generate any views, let alone responses. but when I make a thread about something from 20 years ago, the thread goes diamond. so that's what I'm synonymous with.

I'm just not into pop rap and I definitely dislike industry plants.
the mumble rap stuff - some of it has its place.

 

[tuckgod]

That twizzler haired bytch knows he trash

 

[luckyse7enz]

Like you go to a Drake thread and it's the SAME nikkas complaining about how much they don't like his music over and over and over again. nikka how bout you focus on the music you do like instead of devoting all your time to music you don't?

That's the point though.
YOU have to dig. I can't determine what you're going to like.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Please don't ever mention The Coli ever again. You already know that most of these posters are braindead lames.

In the real world, older cats who are still active fans of hip hop are tumbling over themselves to like some new bullshyt. Let's use rappers as an example. Have you ever seen a prominent rapper from the old school who is still active shyt on the new school? I need them receipts.

The entire game is run by old dudes more than ever before. when you go to radio or some exec for publicity/business, who are you seeing? An old ass face.



nikkaz is acting like hip hop are custom boxers or some shyt This mentality is partly why this genre is total trash now. The irony being that while you're pretending hip hop is so fukking diverse and there's a sea of brilliant shyt to discover if you just search, the reality is that it's less diverse than it has ever been sonically because 99% of aspiring rappers insist on one-size-fit-all flows, production and subject matter with irrelevant (and minor) differences in image.

How are these so-called dope internet rappers gonna be discovered if you as a hip hop fan wont even mention their names/great songs in convo?

Dope is dope, and the cream rises to the top. If you're an actual fan, you share that cream with others. And if it's actually good, it'll keep rising to the top until it reaches where it's supposed to go.

Ok I'll bite.
Here are artist thay I respect for their lyrical ability.
Earl Sweatshirt.

Vince Staples

Ka

G Herbo

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Yachty is trash but his point is still valid. shyt you can even see on this booth, out of all the threads on the front page maybe 2 or 3 are about artists who are relevant today.

that's moreso a testament to how weak the game is now.

cuz at least half the people participating in those threads about old topics, were not around when that stuff was going on in real-time.

 

[Drip Bayless]

that's moreso a testament to how weak the game is now.

cuz at least half the people participating in those threads about old topics, were not around when that stuff was going on in real-time.

game aint weak you just lazy

 

[KravenMorehead™]

It's a stupid line of thought, age aint got nothin to do with whether or not you puttin out trash. That twizzler haired bytch knows he trash and he's trying to use the youth as a shield.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

people need to stop drawing these imaginary age lines.

what a lot of these newer listeners don't realize is that hip-hop has been on a well-documented downhill slide for 15-20 years now. the state of hip-hop is basically a result of that, and its going to continue to get worse. and the more yall try to make excuses on some age chit, the quicker the fall is gonna be.

this chit is WAY WAY DEEPER than some imaginary generation gap. WAY DEEPER.

game aint weak you just lazy

not lazy at all. my ear is in the streets cuzzo.

you just in here tryna make excuses for weak chit.

 

[Mr. Negative]

nope them nikkas is trash.

us "old heads" called nikkas trash when they were trash "back in the day".

It's a long list of new rappers that us "trapped in the 90s" nikkas either listen to or will like if given the chance.

This cat just isn't one of them.

They make it sound like we listened to everything under the sun before another generation came along.

No, lil nikka. You're a wack gimmick to stand out with a lame wanna be rapper inside it and trying to play the "ageism" card as a copout.

 

[Drip Bayless]

people need to stop drawing these imaginary age lines.

what a lot of these newer listeners don't realize is that hip-hop has been on a well-documented downhill slide for 15-20 years now. the state of hip-hop is basically a result of that, and its going to continue to get worse. and the more yall try to make excuses on some age chit, the quicker the fall is gonna be.

this chit is WAY WAY DEEPER than some imaginary generation gap. WAY DEEPER.





not lazy at all. my ear is in the streets cuzzo.

you just in here tryna make excuses for weak chit.

Joey Purp
Isaiah Rashad
G Herbo
Mick Jenkins
Vince Staples
Capital Steez (R.I.P.)
Denzel Curry
Earl Sweatshirt
Freddie Gibbs
Lucki Eck$
Da$H
RetcH
Bishop Nehru
Raz Fresco

All great rappers. But you prolly don't know half the names I just listed.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Joey Purp
Isaiah Rashad
G Herbo
Mick Jenkins
Vince Staples
Capital Steez (R.I.P.)
Denzel Curry
Earl Sweatshirt
Freddie Gibbs
Lucki Eck$
Da$H
RetcH
Bishop Nehru
Raz Fresco

All great rappers. But you prolly don't know half the names I just listed.

whats funny about this list and the other lists made in here

is that going by the "old nikkas" argument, all these cats are trying to rap like "old nikkas"

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Joey Purp
Isaiah Rashad
G Herbo
Mick Jenkins
Vince Staples
Capital Steez (R.I.P.)
Denzel Curry
Earl Sweatshirt
Freddie Gibbs
Lucki Eck$
Da$H
RetcH
Bishop Nehru
Raz Fresco

All great rappers. But you prolly don't know half the names I just listed.

I could run off a long ass list of new rappers' names that you probably never heard of too. lol. what does that prove?

and I'm familiar with half the list. they range from alright to good. nothing great. but I already peeped that you have lower standards, so I'm not even gonna get into a back-n-forth about that.

 

[Drip Bayless]

whats funny about this list and the other lists made in here

is that going by the "old nikkas" argument, all these cats are trying to rap like "old nikkas"

If you actually listened to any of them you'd know that's not true

 

[The Fire]

Yachty pops in that video