Lion vs Silverback Gorilla: who would win?

[5n0man]

Def not the same vid i saw. Because in the vid i saw, they never found the leopard, but the gorilla did stave off the attack, and it was def a big ass gorilla. But it is not unknown for Leopards to kill full grown Silverbacks and vice versa. But a Lion, like i said, will wash

So you saw a video where a leopard injured a gorilla and ran away, and I have the description of a video wher a leopard attacked a young gorilla and died with its limbs ripped off.

That's not necessarily making me feel like leopards merk gorillas regularly.

It's actually leads be to believe that leopards choose the gorilla they attack wisely, and even then, it's 50/50 rather they live

Another thing I've learned is that a leopard is actually more agile in a fight than a lion. A lion has faster running speed but slower reactions and less flexibility

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

That same source states that scavenging couldn't be ruled out. Why not post the rest?

That same article states that there have been only TWO known incidents of a leopard killing a gorilla, ever.

The very same people in africa that wrote that source stated this.

Thank you. and just because they have only 2 known incidents (at that time of the study...not ever) doesnt mean that shyt dont happen... in fact it proves that it does. The locals even said leopards kill chimps, humans, and gorillas... why are you ignoring that? Im sure they would know better than anyone.

Ok scavenging can't be ruled out, what point is that? leopards may eat already dead gorillas.. cool. There was also a case where scavenging could be ruled out that I left out, where a dead male gorilla was found with slash wounds that could not have been inflicted by another gorilla ( only a leopard). My point was that leopards can and do kill gorillas. This is a fact that has been documented.

 

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I'm saying gorilla cuz they have thumbs

 

[5n0man]

Thank you. and just because they have only 2 known incidents (at that time of the study...not ever) doesnt mean that shyt dont happen... in fact it proves that it does. The locals even said leopards kill chimps, humans, and gorillas... why are you ignoring that? Im sure they would know better than anyone.

Ok scavenging can't be ruled out, what point is that? leopards may eat already dead gorillas.. cool. There was also a case where scavenging could be ruled out that I left out, where a dead male gorilla was found with slash wounds that could not have been inflicted by another gorilla ( only a leopard). My point was that leopards can and do kill gorillas. This is a fact that has been documented.

That case you mentioned was on of the two cases.

And one happened in the 60s the other attack was in to 80s. Not just during the time of the study.


Leopards are not known to kill gorillas.

 

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[YaThreadFloppedB!]

That case you mentioned was on of the two cases.

And one happened in the 60s the other attack was in to 80s. Not just during the time of the study.


Leopards are not known to kill gorillas.

Yes they are. I provided proof. and the local's observations who live there > whatever narrative in your mind.

 

[Megadeus]

I think the fact that a lion is a carnivore is the kicker. Their nature is to kill, that's how they survive. Gorilla's are herbivores and only really turn up to show dominance to their crew... I don't know if they'd have the killer instinct that you need..

It's like sports, one guy has all the athletic ability, but no heart...

i dunno....this is a good debate IMO..

interesting point, but to that one could say that the herbivore comment is a wash. Hippopotamus are herbivores and theyre known to kill lions and crocodiles on the regular. Killer instinct isn't necessarily correlated with diet. Hippos are possibly the most murderously aggressive creatures on the entire continent and they dont even eat meat.

 

[5n0man]

Yes they are. I provided proof. and the local's observations who live there > whatever narrative in your mind.

You better come with some stats.
Your "proof" (two occasions ever) does not prove this.

Your proof actually backs my claim that leopards aren't known to kill gorillas, that's rare.

An animal being known to kill another animal means it's a common occurrence.

I wanna see some facts stating a large number of gorillas are being hunted by leopards. The stats don't exist because the shyt doesn't happen.

That's like me saying that aligators are known to kill lions just because they have before in a few rare occasions.

 

[5n0man]

interesting point, but to that one could say that the herbivore comment is a wash. Hippopotamus are herbivores and theyre known to kill lions and crocodiles on the regular. Killer instinct isn't necessarily correlated with diet. Hippos are possibly the most murderously aggressive creatures on the entire continent and they dont even eat meat.

And the hippo can do this because of the sheer strength it has can instantly crush bones. And it's large enough to be able to survive a thrashing, unlike 99% of lion prey which would be dead instantly.

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

No they aren't. Not even the sources he posted, stated this. They actually says otherwise

Why are people ignoring this?


How do you take ONE article about a leopard DYING while killing a gorilla, then that same article explains how extremely unlikely it is for a leopard to kill a gorilla. And for this article, you somehow come to the conclusion that leopards are KNOWN to kill silverbacks?



They aren't know to kill gorillas, that is rare, which is why the article made.

Matter fact, a leopard dying fighting a gorilla is more common than it killing one.

I didnt catch the edit..

the article wasnt about a leopard dying while killing a gorilla. Are you reading or just skimming thru it picking out what sounds good?

the article was about several cases of probable, possible and most likely attacks on gorillas by leopards. Including gorilla remains in leopard shyt, which obviously cant be proven that it were the results of attacks by leopards on gorillas. But there were a case of a leopard killing a male gorilla. This is in the article and was my argument from the jump: that leopards have been known to kill gorillas. Its been documented. Also the coupled comments from the Pygmies in the area that said leopards are known to kill human, chimps, and gorillas support my claim, which youve been ignoring this whole time. I didnt even mention how a gorilla was found attacked in the night and found the next morning in pool of his own blood with his intestines ripped out and a gash in his neck. The leopard was still nearby. So yes, leopards are known to kill gorillas, its obviously high risk... (much like a lion trying to take down a hippo) which is why there are few documented cases, but to act like it dont/doesnt/didnt happen is ignorance.

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

You better come with some stats.
Your "proof" (two occasions ever) does not prove this.

actually it does. FOH. You can put proof in quotes like it isnt but you have no argument besides " b-b-b-b-ut its rare"

My argument was that leopards have been known to kill gorillas and guess what? It's been documented that they have in fact killed gorillas. Who cares if they normally do or dont

 

[5n0man]

actually it does. FOH. You can put proof in quotes like it isnt but you have no argument besides " b-b-b-b-ut its rare"

My argument was that leopards have been known to kill gorillas and guess what? It's been documented that they have in fact killed gorillas. Who cares if they normally do or dont

But yet you can find more information about leopards being killed while attacking gorillas than u can the opposite.

I'll let you cook tho

 

[Payday23]

Silverbacks are huge and strong. Lion is toast.

That lion would be like:
I'm.

 

[EndDomination]

they ain't in a weightlifting competition. gorilla will run in and get clawed up and fukked up with ease. his only chance is to grab the lion and beat it down, but while he is trying to do that he will be getting gutted and will probably have his head bitten off.