Living wage advocates, how are restaruant owners supposed to deal with being squeezed like this?

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Is that quoted in American dollars? What is that chart? Some little island pays fast food worker more...is that it?


And my other point still stands they hitched their economy to a crashing china...

Nope it's in local currencies. That's why the French are using dollars and the U.S. number hasn't moved
 

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Okay, but how does this address the fact that wages have been stagnant for our entire lives while the cost of basic necessities like food, clothing & shelter have increased?

Why are those prices going up while wages are flat?

Help me out breh, my algebra is rusty.

I never understood the argument that wages would go up once prices went up. How are those, or how have they ever, been linked?

Wages have stagnated possibly due to ingrained cultures and numerical psychology of base 10 decimal systems that view 100K as some ideological boundary. I've always wondered if this was the case.

But there are different reasons for this.

But the price issue I thought was due to inflation and changes in global markets.
 

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Are you really this daft? :mindblown:

You can't use a direct numerical comparison of local currencies to determine the parity of each currency across the board :mjlol:

You tried to say this shyt like you knew something :heh:

The purchasing power of each currency differs so just using numerical comparison of wages is NOT a valuable comparison. Theres no standard!

This gets better and better.

Check the little the sign next to the numbers on the chart trooper. You'll get there, I promise.
 

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Nope it's in local currencies. That's why the French are using dollars and the U.S. number hasn't moved
You're not getting it :snoop:

You can't compare local currencies.

You have to compare the purchasing power of each currency.

$18 in Australia is not $18 in the US worth of goods and services.
 

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Do you have any links to this evidence? I would imagine they use data that shows increases of $1-2 or 10-20% over the previous min wage. $15 an hr like everyone is pushing is a 100% increase in min wage. Id like to see the data that shows a full DOUBLE UP on the min wage has little to no effect on prices of goods/services.

Minimum Wages and Employment: A Case Study of the Fast Food Industry in New Jersey and Pennsylvania For example

And actually , minimum wages have gone way down over the years if you of course adjust for inflation. 7.25 today is much lower than it was when it was instituted. Adjusted for inflation it should be 10.25.
 

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This gets better and better.

Check the little the sign next to the numbers on the chart trooper. You'll get there, I promise.
This is YOUR chart and its still ineffective!


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The MW does not relate to the cost of goods locally.

Just changing the conversion rate doesn't address the purchasing power!

Australia is a more expensive place to live!
 

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You're not getting it :snoop:

You can't compare local currencies.

You have to compare the purchasing power of each currency.

$18 in Australia is not $18 in the US worth of goods and services.

This is YOUR chart and its still ineffective!


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The MW does not relate to the cost of goods locally.

Just changing the conversion rate doesn't address the purchasing power!

Australia is a more expensive place to live!

Just to be clear, you're the guy that argued with me for 5 pages that minimum wage shouldn't be tied to inflation because it had nothing to do with purchasing power or cost of living correct?
 

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Just to be clear, you're the guy that argued with me for 5 pages that minimum wage shouldn't be tied to inflation because it had nothing to do with purchasing power or cost of living correct?
Not entirely true.

I said the formula for the PEG itself was never elucidated and needed changes with more advanced calculations in a 50s america versus 2015.
 

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I never understood the argument that wages would go up once prices went up. How are those, or how have they ever, been linked?

Wages have stagnated possibly due to ingrained cultures and numerical psychology of base 10 decimal systems that view 100K as some ideological boundary. I've always wondered if this was the case.

But there are different reasons for this.

But the price issue I thought was due to inflation and changes in global markets.

It's not that wages should go up once prices go up, it's that wages are being artificially held down to create greater returns for execs and shareholders who then use their increased profits to speculate on basic essential things like housing which in turn drives the cost up.

Productivity is up, wages are flat, and the people at the top are taking a larger slice of the pie while paying less in taxes.
 

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It's not that wages should go up once prices go up, it's that wages are being artificially held down to create greater returns for execs and shareholders who then use their increased profits to speculate on basic essential things like housing which in turn drives the cost up.

Productivity is up, wages are flat, and the people at the top are taking a larger slice of the pie while paying less in taxes.
I agree/understand this.

But raising the MW isn't going to help people who qualify for MW jobs.

Raising MW exorbitantly isn't something thats going to affect people who don't make MW.

I support a MW increase, but $15 is too high IMO.
 

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I know you didnt read that study, but I actually just did. And it actually supports my conclusions. It doesnt make the link between minimum wage increase and prices. It examines the relationship between employment and minimum wage but takes into account the economic downturns. You posted a study that makes my argument...
 

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I know you didnt read that study, but I actually just did. And it actually supports my conclusions. It doesnt make the link between minimum wage increase and prices. It examines the relationship between employment and minimum wage but takes into account the economic downturns. You posted a study that makes my argument...
oh so now economic downturns have to be factored in :dead: :duck:

I can't argue with politically driven economists :snoop:

This shyt is futile. :pachaha:

I just really wonder if ya'll care about these people on MW as much as ya'll care to. Because the thing thats worse than MW is not having a job
 
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