Living wage advocates, how are restaruant owners supposed to deal with being squeezed like this?

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Yeah, none of this happens.

The supplier IS McDonalds. Scale overhead? Why do you think they're franchises? All of that is controlled.

Which is why I say they are using a dated playbook. Why would you even invest that much paper to buy a franchise like McDonald's when you can build your own? The franchise model as a whole is flawed and dated.
 

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Do you think its utterly impossible to live on any minimum wage that ever gets established?

I do. Not 7.25, but around $10, I do. (state and local additions withstanding)

Its not comfortable, and you can't support kids, but theres a way to live.
No offense bro, but I actually have a hard time deciphering this post. i'm not sure what youre asking or implyIng here

A great point, though I doubt the folks calling for a higher minimum wage would be OK with trading that for all the govt subsidies that enable minimum wage workers to live.

Like I keep saying, the issue isn't minimum wage... it's why minimum wage is becoming the pay level for so many Americans. Avg American should be equipped with the skills to do better than a MW job.
I understand this as well but the govt subsidies should be a fail safe rather than an invevibitiltt.

When we allow corporations to pay ultra low wages which are not consistant w the true cost, we crowd out small businesses by making franchises profitable in places that they wouldnt actually be profitable. Walmart and Mcdonalds for example are garunteed to make a profit due to their low wages, so they over saturate and cause small competing business to close.
 

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Which is why I say they are using a dated playbook. Why would you even invest that much paper to buy a franchise like McDonald's when you can build your own? The franchise model as a whole is flawed and dated.
OK. Fine, but don't talk about MD's business plan as if they're not tight-wire businesses themselves. You can't just throw out terms and think you can make better decisions for the businesses themselves.

A few more dollars an hour aint gonna change a fast-food worker's life

I agree. Working fast-food should give you more money, but that has to come with changing the perception of worth of food industry workers but the public has to also realize how slim the margins are in those businesses.

Theres a reason restaurants are always closing.
 

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My thing is we know employment will be affected(negatively) to some degree by a wage increase... and as black men that this affect on employment will disproportionately hurt our community.
So why are we supporting it? :dwillhuh:
Is there some delusion going on that those at the bottom of the labor force are not minorities? :dwillhuh:
The vast majority of fast food workers are White. I think it's over 50% nation wide.
 

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OK. Fine, but don't talk about MD's business plan as if they're not tight-wire businesses themselves. You can't just throw out terms and think you can make better decisions for the businesses themselves.

A few more dollars an hour aint gonna change a fast-food worker's life

I agree. Working fast-food should give you more money, but that has to come with changing the perception of worth of food industry workers but the public has to also realize how slim the margins are in those businesses.

Theres a reason restaurants are always closing.

McDonald's been struggling from a business stand point. Their market share has consistently shrank. More competition and a dated menu. And their franchises are poorly run and staffed. I don't know why anyone would want to buy a McDonald's franchise :scusthov: But the restaurant business as a whole is a money pit if you don't know what you're doing. The point i'm trying to make is labor costs is one of many aspects you have to deal with. People trying to make it seem like it's the sole reason why a company will fold. Everybody aint build for it. McDonald's to company makes money by collecting that franchise fee every month. But this isn't about a McDonalds. This goes for every type of restaurant. If you in it for the sole purpose of making money you will fail regardless.
 

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:sas1: So evil capitalist are not out here paying the lowest wage possible as is often suggested/implied?

Now we both know you read the end of that post :francis:


And it being that low has more to do with many states having higher minimum wages than the glorious generosity of the free market
 

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The report states that the share of low wage jobs would fall slightly... Which is what I have been advocating for. I keep saying that certain corporations are allowed to open franchises in places where they would not normally be profitable. Therefore there are excess jobs at mcdonalds etc. However this projection does not take into account the overall increase in employment at different wage levels. It does not say that over the extended period, overall job growth is effected by the wage increase. It does not forecast net unemployment. It simply relates the reality of a reorganization of low wage jobs. That does not mean there will be the type of wholesale job losses which you are indicating. In fact, according to CBO statistics, transfers to low wage individuals is the most productive economic activity.
 

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Thats revenue my breh. Most of that 2.5 million goes back to paying leases, bills, franchise fees, wages and material costs. Plus everyone who starts a franchise doesn't do it with cash... they often get financing. Even if they had cash though, so wat.... should someone who invests in something have to give their money away? Why invest at all?

Then don't get into a business with razor thin margins. McDonald's corporation is generating billions of dollars in profit. The franchisee's should have a discussion with the corporate office on restructuring the deal instead of taking it out on the workers. Why should McDonald's be able to put the burden of subsidizing their workers on the tax payers because they're unable to provide a living wage their employees?
 
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