LMAO @ this beat The Cross by NAS

[L $ C]

Yall Nas stans have to just love this man voice because no way these lyrics is dope

Peep the first bar

Y'all can keep y'all weak beats from your corny producers

There's a new king of the streets, you're gonna get used to
I was the old king of the streets, that y'all once hated
But now I reinvented myself, and y'all all waited
NAS – N.A.S. mean nikkas Against Society
Wtf

Noisy I aim, not silently
Noose all surroundin' me
I hang 'em, I string 'em up, ain't no thing, I just drop 'em
To which doctor you copped
And you locked and it ain't what it was
I changed it up from that Pop shyt, it's hard to see
R&B rappers, arguably, started fukkin' up the game horribly
'Cause I parted the sea, then these novices targeted me
bytches infatuated, say they love me, lyin' to me
What I've discovered is my brother's tryin' to be
The next me, yeah, I support him, but he's blinded, I see
Jealousy, he love me to death — am I'm buggin'?
I love him for life, we both still mournin' on our mothers' life
And I don't need much but a Dutch, a bytch to fukk
A six, a truck, some guns to bust
I wish it was that simple, the last emperor, hit yo' ass
With the Nasty Nas diary, get out my path

shyt is garbage

The beat>>>> Lyrics

So that tells how garbage this shyt is

what. lol bad take

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

First of all that's not the worst beat or song on the album. Zone out is

It's not a song I revisit and the beat is just ok but I liked when Nas performed it as in intro of his 2003 Webster hall concert. That's the type of song that sound better live than on disc

People also need to understand that sometimes in hip hop an okay production can still make a good/great song depending on who rap on it and how. Not saying the cross is a great song but it's not the horrible thing describe by the op

But for the love of God I never understood why Nas get pick apart for his beats when I can find horrible production with almost with every other rappers, even those who are so called great beat pickers. Everybody got their own style. Mop or Busta production won't go with Nas style and vice versa.
I found Friend of mine production on ready to die horrible but I don't flame biggie for this because the song was fun

Oh and stop with the 9th wonder thing. None of the beats were better than than the original except maybe the ether one and the accapellas didn't matched the rapping so most of the time it made it hard to listen

 

[Cladyclad]

what. lol bad take

Whats fire about that verse

 

[Mag Wheel]

lol. I missed this OP. The Cross beat was always complete dog feces. And I’m a Stan.

 

[phillycavsfan]

First of all that's not the worst beat or song on the album. Zone out is

Salaam Remi was such a schizo producer. How can the same beat maker make certified classics like Get Down and Made You Look but also tripe like Zone Out and I Can?

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Whole song was trying too hard

 

[Mike the Executioner]

First of all that's not the worst beat or song on the album. Zone out is

It's not a song I revisit and the beat is just ok but I liked when Nas performed it as in intro of his 2003 Webster hall concert. That's the type of song that sound better live than on disc

People also need to understand that sometimes in hip hop an okay production can still make a good/great song depending on who rap on it and how. Not saying the cross is a great song but it's not the horrible thing describe by the op

But for the love of God I never understood why Nas get pick apart for his beats when I can find horrible production with almost with every other rappers, even those who are so called great beat pickers. Everybody got their own style. Mop or Busta production won't go with Nas style and vice versa.
I found Friend of mine production on ready to die horrible but I don't flame biggie for this because the song was fun

Oh and stop with the 9th wonder thing. None of the beats were better than than the original except maybe the ether one and the accapellas didn't matched the rapping so most of the time it made it hard to listen

People don't realize they're indirectly holding Nas to a higher standard by criticizing his production so much. Jay also rapped over Eminem beats around this time ("Renegade," "Moment of Clarity"), but no one ever says that those beats are terrible. They just single out Nas, like "The Cross" is the worst beat that's ever existed.

I remember hearing years ago that Eminem was short on time when he made this. Listening to it, it sounds like a standard beat he would make around this time. It's fine, but it's obviously not as good as something like "Soldier" or "Patiently Waiting." Nas' performance elevates it and makes it a great song, which should be the goal for any rapper.

 

[phillycavsfan]

People don't realize they're indirectly holding Nas to a higher standard by criticizing his production so much. Jay also rapped over Eminem beats around this time ("Renegade," "Moment of Clarity"), but no one ever says that those beats are terrible. They just single out Nas, like "The Cross" is the worst beat that's ever existed.

I remember hearing years ago that Eminem was short on time when he made this. Listening to it, it sounds like a standard beat he would make around this time. It's fine, but it's obviously not as good as something like "Soldier" or "Patiently Waiting." Nas' performance elevates it and makes it a great song, which should be the goal for any rapper.

Renegade and Moment of Clarity aren't terrible beats at all. In fact I could put those songs on today and nod my heads to those beats. Eminem didn't always strike out as a producer; Till I Collapse is a banger to this day.

The Cross just....limps along. It's a beat that limps.

 

[Cladyclad]

Renegade and Moment of Clarity aren't terrible beats at all. In fact I could put those songs on today and nod my heads to those beats. Eminem didn't always strike out as a producer; Till I Collapse is a banger to this day.

The Cross just....limps along. It's a beat that limps.

Thank you. Dudes lump Jay In with any negative about Nas lol


bu bu but Eminem made beats for Jay Z too head ass

 

[beenz]

it's one of those TERRIBLE eminem beats that were running rampant in the early 2000's. people were actually acting like that dude could make hot beats. they were all

 

[Awesome Wells]

Thank you. Dudes lump Jay In with any negative about Nas lol


bu bu but Eminem made beats for Jay Z too head ass

Truth is, those ain't even real Nas fans. Those are just Jay haters, trying to front like they're Nas fans.

Em was dope as a MF, as an MC. But as a "producer", bro was getting by on name alone. I don’t know how he got away with 95% of those beats he was giving people, lol.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Renegade and Moment of Clarity aren't terrible beats at all. In fact I could put those songs on today and nod my heads to those beats. Eminem didn't always strike out as a producer; Till I Collapse is a banger to this day.

The Cross just....limps along. It's a beat that limps.

Honestly, I don't hear much of a difference between "The Cross" and "Moment of Clarity." There are more subtle things in the "Moment of Clarity" beat that make it slightly better (like that noise in the third verse when Jay says "'Til we all got triangles on our wall"), but I don't listen to that song and wonder why Eminem ripped off Nas.

Truth is, those ain't even real Nas fans. Those are just Jay haters, trying to front like they're Nas fans.

Em was dope as a MF, as an MC. But as a "producer", bro was getting by on name alone. I don’t know how he got away with 95% of those beats he was giving people, lol.

On the "Love Me" freestyle, he said "I gave beats to Jay-Z for free." Either he gave the beats away back then or he didn't charge much, especially since he didn't need the money and was probably humbled that guys like Nas and Jay wanted production from him to begin with.

 

[Awesome Wells]

On the "Love Me" freestyle, he said "I gave beats to Jay-Z for free." Either he gave the beats away back then or he didn't charge much, especially since he didn't need the money and was probably humbled that guys like Nas and Jay wanted production from him to begin with.

I don’t even want to be disrespectful, but them wack ass beats better be free, lol.

Dre gave him access to his drum sounds, and he was still giving people that same dreary depressed sound on every damn track. I don’t know what Em was doing. But he should've worked on mastering production. Dude was literally in close proximity with the GOAT. He should've studied Dre closely.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

I don’t even want to be disrespectful, but them wack ass beats better be free, lol.

Dre gave him access to his drum sounds, and he was still giving people that same dreary depressed sound on every damn track. I don’t know what Em was doing. But he should've worked on mastering production. Dude was literally in close proximity with the GOAT. He should've studied Dre closely.

From what I've read and heard, he was studying Dre closely. That's how he became a producer. He wanted to know about every button on the mixing board and how they worked. He would talk about certain sounds he wanted without actually touching the equipment, and Dre told him that made him a producer. "The Way I Am" was the first beat he made by himself, and it was great, but I don't know how much co-production was done.

Personally, I think he learned too much from Dre, like his perfectionism. Over time, it took away the soul of his music. Plus, he stopped working with the Bass Brothers and bought a new studio, so he didn't even have the guys who helped create his signature sound when he got sober. Then he started working with other producers and getting their worst beats, but he didn’t care about the music as much as he cared about being the best technical rapper in the world.

 

[Awesome Wells]

From what I've read and heard, he was studying Dre closely. That's how he became a producer. He wanted to know about every button on the mixing board and how they worked. He would talk about certain sounds he wanted without actually touching the equipment, and Dre told him that made him a producer. "The Way I Am" was the first beat he made by himself, and it was great, but I don't know how much co-production was done.

Personally, I think he learned too much from Dre, like his perfectionism. Over time, it took away the soul of his music. Plus, he stopped working with the Bass Brothers and bought a new studio, so he didn't even have the guys who helped create his signature sound when he got sober. Then he started working with other producers and getting their worst beats, but he didn’t care about the music as much as he cared about being the best technical rapper in the world.

Mel-Man said Em was at the studio and Dre gave him a bunch of drums kits and taught him the SSL.

But even with all that, the majority of his beats for other artists were still trash. Em's a mad cool dude. And he's from one of the most soulful cities in the country. But all of that never helped his production, lol. You can't teach or buy soul. He just ain't got it.