“Logic, you’re easily one of the worst rappers to grace a microphone” - Joe Budden

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That nikka honestly sucks man and Ive given him at least 3 separate chances cuz im into the whole hip hop wordplay scene but nah. Alot of people do that semi conscious everyman style way better, with more depth, harder lyrics and less corn. You telling me logic is fukking with kendrick, cole, krit, isaiah rashad, mick jenkins, cozz, saba etc.? Bro Russ is > then some damn Logic.
That's not what you said initially and you compared his "self-awareness" to someone who made his career biting others.
No I just don't take technical lyricism and put it in a vacuum and act like that's the most important aspect of music. The combined final product from the beat to the flow to the lyricism matters.

You and I are basically saying the same thing in different ways. The end product is more important than any single ingredient that contributes to it. People like Ross and Jeezy aren't lyrical wordsmiths but their final product is good. As an artist it's more important that your finished product is interesting than a listener hearing your complex multisyllabic rhymes.
So he's a great lyricist with trash flows and beats? Because there's a lot of talk of his "persona" and not actual aspects of music. And if that was his musical profile I doubt he'd have success.

I have not heard a Logic but when I do hear a song, I'm not blown away but I am refreshed that somebody wants to rap and I haven't heard a trash beat. So this has to be more about his persona and content, the latter of which is no more relatable than 90% of the artists we find "entertaining."
 

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I hope yall aint about to get mad at Joe for saying the same shyt yall say up here daily :fohch:
People kill me with that lol. Like people haven’t been killing Logic since that suicide song. It’s popular to hate Joe though so that’s why we are here.
 
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Logic can rap but his subject matter is cringeworthy the caterpillar remix was ruined by Logic’s verse he had to drop being quadroon into the song even though the song was about bars not about no life story:scust:
 

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People going for the clickbait. If you listened to the podcast you'd know they broke down his trash ass verse on the new French Montana record and was coming with jokes...
 

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Neither Logic nor Budden make great music as artists.

Joe's is more digestible though and he's a better rapper.
 

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Logic is just annoyingly corny...like he makes you put the :scust: face just by the sound of his voice and the look of his nerdy face.

Then you hear him kick verses like the one on the French song Joe is talking about. It just oozes cheesiness.

I know where joe is coming from...funny segment.
 

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I never heard a Logic song till I played Live 19. He has a song on there called 44 Reasons. Sound like he can rap to me

He can. It's an unpopular opinion but Logic is a really good rapper. Under Pressure is such a dope song.

Joe is just being a hater and is wrong on this one. He's picking on Logic cuz he's a nice guy. And all I say all of this as a Budden stan. :yeshrug:
 

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This reminds me. Anyone ever make no-Logic versions of Homicide and the Wu joint?
 
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