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I hate you super-c00ns literally lying in the hope that this across-the-aisle dap-fishing bullshyt will garner you some online goodwill, there's no way you're a functioning Black person in the US and actually truly believe this shyt.
There isn't a thorough Black leader that wasn't Left-leaning, shyt even Bill Coleman Jr., the Republican appointee and first Black SCOTUS clerk believed that the Left was the way to go.
MLK Jr. was Left, Malcolm X was Left, Harry Haywood was a goddamn Communist, the Black Panthers were Maoist, the DSA has advocated for literally every pro-Black policy since its inception, and before that the ISO did.
From prison reform and abolition, to the removal of the criminalization of drugs, to urban policy forcing mixed-income neighborhoods, to reparations, to union-backing, to the removal of financial barriers for college, etc.

What's ISO? And the Left is not Leftist. The Left just means political left which in the post 1970 world means Democrats. The people you listed are Leftists not Democrats. The people that @YouMadd? was seemingly referring to was Democrats.
 

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First off...

I AM a independent, not a conservative

As far as trump giving blacks what they want, Lyndon b Johnson was extremely racist and yet he was the one that passed the civil rights bill.


You should always try to get what you want from whoever can give it too you.

Continuous voting dem without receiving anything in return is the definition of insanity I'm good :hubie:
Did you miss out on the international, and stirring internal pressure to put forth Civil Rights bills :mjgrin:
nikkas didn't MAGA hat their way to Civil Rights, literally millions of Americans, the absolute vast majority Black, essentially had an uprising, the Soviet Union and Soviet-influenced states, alongside our Western European ally states, also pressured the US to act as the supposed "leader of the free world," and w/ JFK having just been killed, LBJ had a bully-pulpit with the potential for almost unlimited legislative and executive power. :comeon:
 

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This.
A lot of posters keep trying this "we can use the GOP" when the Republicans have shown an absolute allegiance to their corporate donors and regressive policy.
Democrats are shills for the most part as well, but at least they push good policy at times, even if they end up compromising 90% of the time.

Black women aren't the most educated. Anti-Blackness still exists, as does misogyny.
Outside of civil rights what else did LGBT people get?
Racism still exists (surprise?)
You keep saying "the :eft" but assuming you're too stupid to understand the difference between liberal as in Democrat and "Left" as in "Socialist," I won't even hold that against you.
Drug reform does help Black people.
If you live in Ohio Vote Issue 1, that's all.


You're mixing up liberal and "Left" and its pretty embarrassing.
And Black nationalists for the most part are fools, no real understanding of social cohesion, and aimlessly bumping into issues; the shyt is embarrassing.
Its not surprising that conservatism is not a popular thing in the Black community, considering it is at its core anti-proletariat, and in the current socio-economic system, very anti-Black, down to the roots.

Your so short sighted and simple....your answer is prison reform:mjlol:

Guess what, if there is nothing done specific to address to the financial plight of AA, it won't matter about what is done for prison reform if the income isn't there, soon as they get out they headed right back
 

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Good points, but I need something exclusively for African American descendant of slavery
As a racial minority we're a protected class, not as African-Americans.
You're already aware of that though.
Saying "I want something just for Black people" sounds like a petulant child that wants a toy just for themselves. That doesn't mean I disagree with you, but the existence of other racial minorities in the US makes that incredibly difficult, if not impossible. Reparations are inconceivably difficult, and while there's a vibrant racist history that was entirely anti-Black here in the US, using that to fight for reparation would take tremendous, tremendous time and effort.
What else?

What's ISO? And the Left is not Leftist. The Left just means political left which in the post 1970 world means Democrats. The people you listed are Leftists not Democrats. The people that @Thomas was seemingly referring to was Democrats.
International Socialist Organization. shyt, even the CCDS (had Angela Davis as a candiate).
The groups and people I'm listing were on the Left, and both did and would vote Democrat if need be.
The Democrats are Moderates, the Republicans are Right wing, and the Left wing of the US political spectrum is almost non-existent, with the DSA being the largest group.
 

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Did you miss out on the international, and stirring internal pressure to put forth Civil Rights bills :mjgrin:
nikkas didn't MAGA hat their way to Civil Rights, literally millions of Americans, the absolute vast majority Black, essentially had an uprising, the Soviet Union and Soviet-influenced states, alongside our Western European ally states, also pressured the US to act as the supposed "leader of the free world," and w/ JFK having just been killed, LBJ had a bully-pulpit with the potential for almost unlimited legislative and executive power. :comeon:


Your history is little off breh.
JFK died in 63, Johnson passed the three bill after the death of king in 68, he encouraged the Congress in his speech before the vote to pass the bill in king's honor which got vote passed
 

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Your so short sighted and simple....your answer is prison reform:mjlol:

Guess what, if there is nothing done specific to address to the financial plight of AA, it won't matter about what is done for prison reform if the income isn't there, soon as they get out they headed right back
nikka I have hundreds of posts that have gone increasingly in-depth about the "answers," a lot of them have been in response to your retarded posts.
And no shyt, I've also talked about that in a previous post, and different policy reasons that could remedy that.
"Prison reform" isn't the only answer, but its a bill I personally helped get drafted, and signed, and am working to get passed and put in the Ohio Constitution, so I'm going to push said bill. I don't see your work anywhere out there right now, but keep playing 20 questions :hubie:
 
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As a racial minority we're a protected class, not as African-Americans.
You're already aware of that though.
Saying "I want something just for Black people" sounds like a petulant child that wants a toy just for themselves. That doesn't mean I disagree with you, but the existence of other racial minorities in the US makes that incredibly difficult, if not impossible. Reparations are inconceivably difficult, and while there's a vibrant racist history that was entirely anti-Black here in the US, using that to fight for reparation would take tremendous, tremendous time and effort.
What else?


International Socialist Organization. shyt, even the CCDS (had Angela Davis as a candiate).
The groups and people I'm listing were on the Left, and both did and would vote Democrat if need be.
The Democrats are Moderates, the Republicans are Right wing, and the Left wing of the US political spectrum is almost non-existent, with the DSA being the largest group.

Wait, are latino's not getting immagration laws reformed specifically for them:ohhh:

That's the problem with our people everyone knows how to be self interested BUT US
 

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Your history is little off breh.
JFK died in 63, Johnson passed the three bill after the death of king in 68, he encouraged the Congress in his speech before the vote to pass the bill in king's honor which got vote passed
I was referring to the CRA of '64
It passed the year after Kennedy died, signed by Johnson
 

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Wait, are latino's not getting immagration laws reformed specifically for them:ohhh:

That's the problem with our people everyone knows how to be self interested BUT US
No, because the immigration laws reformed don't just affect them, they affect the East Asians, the Islanders, the Middle-Easterners, and the Africans who all fall under the exact same immigration laws. They may be doing it just for themselves, but its not affecting just them.

Basically, the same thing Coli brehs complain about when it comes to AA or anti-discrimination things, that it isn't *just* for African-Americans, even if we're the ones who put forth the effort to combat our specific issues.
 

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You're mixing up liberal and "Left" and its pretty embarrassing.
And Black nationalists for the most part are fools, no real understanding of social cohesion, and aimlessly bumping into issues; the shyt is embarrassing.
Its not surprising that conservatism is not a popular thing in the Black community, considering it is at its core anti-proletariat, and in the current socio-economic system, very anti-Black, down to the roots.

well first of all I never used the word "Liberal" i just said the left...you're brain is seeing words that aren't even there...talk about embarrassing. :lolbron:

and it's funny you weirdos stay TRYING to shyt on black nationalism, but I see UMAR going viral once a week
several of his videos have millions of views on facebook (just in the last few months alone) - thousands of replies of "who is this? what's his name? he saying some real shyt!"

this pisses you overseer negros off because it resonates with everyday working class black folks...we don't connect with deray and don lemon, nobody in the hood is quoting trevor noah

but keep buck dancing with your fiddle next to the camp fire wearing your potato sacks thinking you're saving the black race though :russ:
 

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:stopitslime:Is this a serious question

migos been scapegoated since the beginning of the current administrations campaign

the fukk would they be getting reforms for

Wait, are latino's not getting immagration laws reformed specifically for them:ohhh:

That's the problem with our people everyone knows how to be self interested BUT US
 
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