Lol @ Jeremy Lin abandoning his team in the playoffs again

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

You're talking about a guy that's averaged 14/6/3/2 over the last two seasons.

I don't think people thought he was coming for the PG crown, but he's had two good years... players have gotten paid more for less.

That being said, last year he got ate up by strong defensive PG's, this year it's the same thing. Westbrook haunts his dreams, chalmers ate him up... they're too quick, and his handle still needs a lot of work. Work it didn't get this summer as he healed from surgery.

But he's young, with room for improvement. Hopefully this summer he gets to work on his ballhandling, because it's holding him back.

isnt he a point guard?

 

[I.V.]

isnt he a point guard?

He's not the only point guard that needs to work on his ballhandling. Not by a longshot.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

He's not the only point guard that needs to work on his ballhandling. Not by a longshot.

look at the starting PGs in the league...who else is there?? besides someone like maybe jameer nelson (idk how isaiaah thomas or grevis vasquez play)

 

[I.V.]

look at the starting PGs in the league...who else is there?? besides someone like maybe jameer nelson (idk how isaiaah thomas or grevis vasquez play)

Off the top of my head:
Jrue
Brandon Knight/Stuckey
John Wall
Jeff Teague

Could all benefit from tightening up their ball handling.

 

[Heelmatic]

Meanwhile in New York.....

NEW YORK — To a degree, the Celtics have conceded that scoring champion Carmelo Anthony and Sixth Man of the Year J.R. Smith are going to get their points in this first round playoff series against the Knicks. That has proven to be the case in the first two games, as Anthony is averaging 35 points and Smith is adding 17 points per contest.

But the Celtics have to put their foot down somewhere, and Raymond Felton would be a good place to start. Labeled the X-factor by Kevin Garnett, Felton is averaging 14.5 points, 5.5 rebounds and 4.0 assists in two Knicks wins.

“He’s killing us,” C’s coach Doc Rivers said. “He’s getting into the paint, he’s attacking us. We have to do a better job on him. I wish I could make a better statement than that, except for we have to keep him out of the paint.”

Felton’s line in Game 2 — 16 points, seven rebounds, two assists — doesn’t do justice to his impact. He repeatedly broke down the C’s defense with his penetration, and other times he simply beat them down the court in transition.

“Raymond is a big piece of this puzzle because when he’s pushing the pace and doing the things I know he can do on the floor, we’re a better basketball team for that,” Knicks coach Mike Woodson said. “That third quarter, I thought Raymond was the difference-maker in terms of his play and pushing the ball up the floor and getting it where it needed to go.”

Felton started Game 2 alongside fellow point guard Pablo Prigioni. That forced the Celtics into an uncomfortable matchup with Paul Pierce trying to stick with a quicker player six inches shorter and seven years his junior.

The Knicks further exploited the mismatch by running Felton through pick-and-rolls. When one of the C’s big men switched onto Felton, he took at as an invitation to attack the rim.

“That’s what he’s supposed to do. I think when teams switch bigger guys on our point guards, you’ve got to make them pay,” Woodson said. “It’s OK if you make a play for yourself, but you’ve got to make them pay where you can possibly make a play for your teammates as well. Raymond has been pretty good in that regard. It’s kind of hard to switch a bigger guy on Raymond and Raymond not take advantage of the mismatch.”

On a team with Anthony and Smith, Felton is never going to be the first option. But he’s showing the Celtics if they don’t show him the proper attention, he’s more than capable of making them pay.

“I’m not trying to come out and score 30 points each and every game,” Felton said. “My biggest thing is really trying to get everybody else involved, get guys shots, and then when there’s an opportunity for me to start being aggressive, that’s what I do.”

 

[thatrapsfan]

i have to see the article but frequently people that dont know stats mislabel dumb people as stat heads. Using stats does not make you a stat head, its which stats you use. From what I saw no bonafide stat heads thought Lin was anything special. Not with all those turnovers, that completely fukked up any type of proficiency rating he had. Stop blaming the wrong enemy!

A lot of guys cited PER, true shooting percentage etc from Lin's 20 game sample as proof that he is a better player than Felton.

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The article I was referring to from that NYTimes guy http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/19/s...ton&_r=0&gwh=B9753EF08DE16C97514DEEF09C7B9540

 

[thatrapsfan]

Off the top of my head:
Jrue
Brandon Knight/Stuckey
John Wall
Jeff Teague

Could all benefit from tightening up their ball handling.

I'm not sure any of those dudes have a worse off-hand than Lin.

 

[bzb]

Off the top of my head:
Jrue
Brandon Knight/Stuckey
John Wall
Jeff Teague

Could all benefit from tightening up their ball handling.

all of the above are better than lin.

 

[Heretic]

Honestly do you watch basketball ? People usually don't pay players for a week of good games and they do people usually laugh at them . If that's the case jr and Nate Robinson would be Max players and you tell Lin that he's Marginal he's the one who keeps decrying how no one drafted or offered him scholarship due to being Asian . Yet with his skill level he needs to either prove us wrong or be quiet and enjoy your money

Yeah but you completely missed the end part of my post where I said houston got him because it benefits them as much as him. He's marginal, but hus popularity will make it more than worth the money they are paying him. Nate Robinson cant do that neither can j.r. Despite being much better players than him. I think just about everybody sees this as pure marketing at this point.

 

[Nefflum nigga]

Yao Ming >

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Meanwhile in New York.....

Felton has been great for us, he's great at penetrating, decent at creating his own shot off the dribble, has enough range to keep the defense honest, and doesn't turn the ball over. Outside of that bad stretch earlier after coming off of injury, he's given us all we could hope for. If the Knicks still had Lin starting then they wouldn't have been a second seed, bottom line.

 

[Walt]

You're talking about a guy that's averaged 14/6/3/2 over the last two seasons.

I don't think people thought he was coming for the PG crown, but he's had two good years... players have gotten paid more for less.

That being said, last year he got ate up by strong defensive PG's, this year it's the same thing. Westbrook haunts his dreams, chalmers ate him up... they're too quick, and his handle still needs a lot of work. Work it didn't get this summer as he healed from surgery.

But he's young, with room for improvement. Hopefully this summer he gets to work on his ballhandling, because it's holding him back.

I actually enjoyed the J. Lin story last year as a fan, and blocked out the more asinine aspects of it as far as media coverage went. That being said, he's kind of fukking wack, definitely a bottom tier starting point when I watch him. I think the media overplayed its collective hand with Lin and Morey and they now refuse to concede that they weren't holding the full house they thought they were holding. The refusal to critique Lin and Morey - and the bold strategy of doing just the opposite, regardless of results - has intensified a lot of the backlash (as far as Morey goes, that's def true for me).

 

[Spaceman Piff]

 

[23Barrettcity]

Off the top of my head:
Jrue
Brandon Knight/Stuckey
John Wall
Jeff Teague

Could all benefit from tightening up their ball handling.

but talent wise they are better than him .