Looking at Leo’s filmography, how is he not the GOAT.

[AnonymityX1000]

What do their bad movies have to do with my point of Leo not being able to duplicate their great performances? I literally already addressed the point of Leo being in great movies versus him having great performances. As far as knowing his lane: he's an actor, he's not supposed to have a lane. That's the whole point of acting, if you're doing it at a high level.

Filmography matters and being in bad movies speaks poorly to your artistic judgement. Bad movies reflect badly on all involved, especially the actors.
You stated Brad Pitt could duplicate Leo's performances. I definitely don't agree. But it is useless going back and forth on that point. No one is going to change their mind.
And again we also disagree about actors having lanes, no one can play anyone. A white version of Stringer Bell my G?! Is there such a thing? I don't think so. Can a white guy play Nelson Mandela to?! Would you like to see Lupita and Fassbender switch roles in 12 Years A Slave? What about Marion Cotilliard as Bane and Tom Hardy as Talia? There are limits and knowing yours as an actor definitely helps you put your best foot forward.

 

[eufemism]

Somebody really said Chadwick Boseman would be better than Leo



Dude is already in his 40s and has only had 1 big role




Honestly a tough question. What makes the GOAT male actor? Big filmography of good to amazing movies like Leonardo DiCaprio or a few mind blowing performances like Daniel Day Lewis?


There's also people like Tom Hanks who have had amazing performances and have also stayed consistent for a long time.

 

[obarth]

Filmography matters and being in bad movies speaks poorly to your artistic judgement. Bad movies reflect badly on all involved, especially the actors.
You stated Brad Pitt could duplicate Leo's performances. I definitely don't agree. But it is useless going back and forth on that point. No one is going to change their mind.
And again we also disagree about actors having lanes, no one can play anyone. A white version of Stringer Bell my G?! Is there such a thing? I don't think so. Can a white guy play Nelson Mandela to?! Would you like to see Lupita and Fassbender switch roles in 12 Years A Slave? What about Marion Cotilliard as Bane and Tom Hardy as Talia? There are limits and knowing yours as an actor definitely helps you put your best foot forward.

Are we really doing the ultra literal interpretation of what the other person says to justify a rebuttal, right now, breh?When I said great actors shouldn't have lanes, we both know I wasnt talking about biopics, gender, or race(though all of those categories have been stretched by actors before). That said, you realize a white version of Stringer Bell could easily just be a role in the Sopranos or any of the multitudes of white crime syndicates, right? The dude trying to straddle the line between the streets while going legit. Again, I've made the distinction between filmography and performance. I never discounted one or the other.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Are we really doing the ultra literal interpretation of what the other person says to justify a rebuttal, right now, breh?When I said great actors shouldn't have lanes, we both know I wasnt talking about biopics, gender, or race(though all of those categories have been stretched by actors before). That said, you realize a white version of Stringer Bell could easily just be a role in the Sopranos or any of the multitudes of white crime syndicates, right? The dude trying to straddle the line between the streets while going legit. Again, I've made the distinction between filmography and performance. I never discounted one or the other.

Say what you mean then man. Stringer Bell is from Baltimore, from the projects. Is the white version as well? If not, it's not exactly Stringer Bell now is it? What about a white criminal having a distinct advantage going legit compared to someone like Stringer Bell who's Black? He would be more easily accepted in that world. And would a white crime syndicate discourage him from getting into politics like Stringer Bell's did? I doubt it. Stringer Bell being Black is a distinct part of the character, there is no white equivalent IMO.
OK, so Leo couldn't play a white Stringer Bell you just went into detail about?! Of course he could.
The whole 'What if . . ." elements of your argument makes it something unprovable and not worth discussing. Because when we disagree no one can exactly say the other person is wrong.
And really look at the thread title, this is about filmography very specifically. Sorry.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Sam L Jack

Denzel





We need like a categorical joint, one for film, one for TV

Best horror actor & Director

Drama

Action Star & DIrector

Martial Arts

Comedy

Romance



then second and third best

For Men and Women


would be a long convo but it'd be dope lol



Coli Film GOATs tournament


The COFEEGOAT tournament

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Sam L Jack

Denzel





We need like a categorical joint, one for film, one for TV

Best horror actor & Director

Drama

Action Star & DIrector

Martial Arts

Comedy

Romance



then second and third best

For Men and Women


would be a long convo but it'd be dope lol



Coli Film GOATs tournament


The COFEEGOAT tournament

Mcfly was doing some sort of franchise tournament but that shyt died I guess.

 

[obarth]

Say what you mean then man. Stringer Bell is from Baltimore, from the projects. Is the white version as well? If not, it's not exactly Stringer Bell now is it? What about a white criminal having a distinct advantage going legit compared to someone like Stringer Bell who's Black? He would be more easily accepted in that world. And would a white crime syndicate discourage getting into politics like Stringer Bell's did? I doubt it. Stringer Bell being Black is a distinct part of the character, there is no white equivalent IMO.
OK, so Leo couldn't play a white Stringer Bell you just went into detail about?! Of course he could.
The whole 'What if . . ." elements of your argument makes it something unprovable and not worth discussing. Because when we disagree no one can exactly say the other person is wrong.
And really look at the thread title, this is about filmography very specifically. Sorry.

The thread title doesn't make the point you think you're arguing. In your opinion, does Leo have a movie better than Goodfellas? Samuel L Jackson was in that and a bunch of other classics. Hence me asking the criteria. Quality over Quantity? Quality of what? Quantity of what? Again, you chose to go ultra literal because that's the only recourse you have to debate. If The Town was made into a series and directed by someone the caliber of David Simon, Ben Affleck's character could easily turn into a Stringer type before he tried to leave the game. I could make Peaky Blinders references to back up my point as well. We could just end this as opposed to laboring the point, bruh

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The thread title doesn't make the point you think you're arguing. In your opinion, does Leo have a movie better than Goodfellas? Samuel L Jackson was in that and a bunch of other classics. Hence me asking the criteria. Quality over Quantity? Quality of what? Quantity of what? Again, you chose to go ultra literal because that's the only recourse you have to debate. If The Town was made into a series and directed by someone the caliber of David Simon, Ben Affleck's character could easily turn into a Stringer type before he tried to leave the game. I could make Peaky Blinders references to back up my point as well. We could just end this as opposed to laboring the point, bruh

No, Leo doesn't have a movie as good as Goodfellas but he also has never been in anything remotely as bad as Loaded Weapon 1.
It would be an avg. Take all of their movies and average them on whatever scale you are using (quality of movie 1 + quality of movie 2 + quality of movie 3 . . . /quantity).

 

[obarth]

No, Leo doesn't have a movie as good as Goodfellas but he also has never been in anything remotely as bad as Loaded Weapon 1.
It would be an avg. Take all of their movies and average them on whatever scale you are using (quality of movie 1 + quality of movie 2 + quality of movie 3 . . . /quantity).

Why would I average them when the point I was making was great performances over being listed in the credits for great movies? One is gauging talent, the other is guaging the ability to be casted in great movies.

 

[Big Dick]

Smh the coli with it's Leo blasphemy, some dude in here said Tom Cruise is a better actor gtfo...another dude said Leo has never given the best performance in a movie he was in as if What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Wolf of Wall Street, Django and The Aviator don't exist.

Someone said Leo can't be subtle, can only go 0-100 and turn up. Leo played a normal ass dude in Revolutionary Road and killed it, which is what made him finally blowing up at the end so piff.

Y'all need to stop tryna play my boy Leo, hes a top tier actor with a top tier filmography. Give him his fukking credit. There's maybe a handful of actors that are consistently as good or better than Leo, dudes like Joaquin Phoenix and Christian Bale, but you guys pointing out one actor and referencing a random role where he killed it and tryna act like he's on Leos level can miss me with that shyt. Leo's been killing roles for 15 years now and all of his performances have been in the good to great range.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

1. Despite being good he's never been best in any movie he's been in except maybe Django
2. He doesn't take chances with roles
3. He's one note - a great yelling tantrum throwing white guy but he seldom tries being subtle/chooses roles to avoid having to be subtle
4. Has no classic characters outside of Jack in Titantic

Dude is good but he has his own lane. He's not even in the top 50 living actors, let alone the GOAT. You could maybe even find 50 Leo co-stars that are better than him but tbh he works with some of the best people

Not even top 50 is an absurd statement

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Chadwick Boseman's discography by the time he's done will probably be greater. nikka gets every role i would want for myself if i was an Actor.

no. Chadwick does not have a good filmography.

 

[StraxStrax]

Not even top 50 is an absurd statement

He's a top 15 leading man

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Why would I average them when the point I was making was great performances over being listed in the credits for great movies? One is gauging talent, the other is guaging the ability to be casted in great movies.

Dude you asked what my criteria was. I tell you and now you don't like it?
What makes a movie great? I'm sure talented acting is part of the recipe. And yeah, we were talking about filmography so the ability to pick good projects is part of it. They asked Leo to be Steve Jobs first. He turned it down, Fassbender didn't. And guess what? It was a dud.
Why is Leo billing over Brad Pitt, Tom Hardy and Matthew McConaughey?

 

[BaltimoreTwilightMarauder]

Chadwick Boseman's discography by the time he's done will probably be greater. nikka gets every role i would want for myself if i was an Actor.

Compare Chadwick Boseman to Leo, brehs. One is among the greatest actors of all time and the other just hit mainstream popularity from a superhero movie.