Looking back, LeBron really sabotaged Wade's Finals MVP

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I think he was just a mental midget back then. He sent D.Wade film from the 2006 finals to motivate him. I don’t think he had any issue with wade taking over. He just didn’t know how to play second fiddle in that situation. He only knows how to operate as the lead dog which is why Wade willingly took a step back the next 3 years.
 

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Y’all really think Wade winning FMVP does more damage to his legacy than actually LOSING that title? :comeon:

Also, if LeBron played the way he was capable of and the way y’all wanted, he would’ve won MVP anyway. :yeshrug:

And if Wade was REALLY as godly as y’all make out him to be during those Finals, the Heat would’ve won anyway with LeBron playing like trash, since a lot of posters here like to claim Dirk won the title “by himself”. :mjpls:
Stop it. In Game 2, Miami was up 15 in the 4th, and Wade already had 36. LeSabo tried to get his numbers and failed, went 0-4 down the stretch, while Dallas couldn't miss.
Unlike Wade, Dirk's supporting cast understood their roles and stepped up. They didn't stand in the corner and pout like some players do:manny:
 

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Ya'all never give Dallas enough credit. This team had just swept the defending champ Kobe-Gasol-Bynum-Artest Lakers with a 32-point blowout in the deciding game, then steamrolled the Durant-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder in 5 (exact same team that would be in the Finals the next year), but had no chance against a Heat team in their first year together with no PG or center?

The Mavs' players talked about this extensively after the Finals. They had a detailed plan for stopping LeBron.

#1. You don't guard Bron one-on-one, you guard him with a zone. Cut off his driving lanes, cut off his passing lanes, give him space on the jumpers because that's the weakest part of his game and where he has the least confidence. But you DON'T let him get going and let him get the other guys going, because that's what the Heat thrive on.

#2. You have to keep giving Bron different looks. If you stick one defender on him, he figures that guy out. So you guard him with Marion and Stevenson, but also with Kidd and Terry and even a couple possessions from Barea. You keep changing the looks over and over and over and never let him get comfortable.

#3. Leave Kidd or Terry on an island with Wade. Let Wade get his, but don't let him get others going. Keep the zone slanted towards Bron because it's his creation that determines whether the Heat prosper or not.


The strategy worked to a T, just like their strategies against Kobe and the Lakers and Durant and the Thunder had worked. What they probably didn't count on was that their strategy was also the perfect way to force LeBron to overthink things, to make him freeze up, to completely psych himself out of the game.
Consider what you know of the 2011 NBA Finals. And now consider it, instead, like this: In what will likely be remembered as the low point of his career, James is miserable for several games against the Dallas Mavericks -- including a vitally important Game 4 collapse when he somehow scores just eight points in 46 minutes. At times during that game it appears as if James is in a trance.

"What is he thinking?" the basketball world wonders.

James -- with two titles and counting, and four straight trips to the Finals -- can admit today what he's thinking in 2011: He's thinking of everything. Everything good, and everything bad. In 2011, he isn't just playing against the Mavs; he's also battling the demons of a year earlier, when he failed in a series against the Boston Celtics as the pressure of the moment beat him down. It's Game 5 of the 2010 Eastern Conference semifinals, and it is, to this point, perhaps the most incomprehensible game of James' career. His performance is so lockjawed, so devoid of rhythm, the world crafts its own narrative, buying into unfounded and ridiculous rumors because they seem more plausible than his performance.

James, though, never fully deals with any of that. Instead, he changes teams. Changes cities. Changes coaches. Changes owners. Changes teammates. Changes uniforms. Changes climate. Wipe the slate clean, and maybe, for once, he can leave the past behind.

Instead, when it all happens again a year later, James' recall turns against him, yet again, like an awful sequel to an awful original movie -- everything happening out of James' control, the awful computer in his head winning the inner monologue.

"There are a lot of things that go through my mind during a game," James says. "Sometimes I cloud my mind too much. I get to thinking about the game too much instead of just playing."

Windhorst: LeBron's mighty memory



Boston tried basically the same strategy in 2012, just let Wade go off while shading the defense around shutting down LeBron's lanes and force LeBron to beat you outside, and it nearly worked until LeBron put together a next-level performance in Game 6 and DID beat them from outside. Spurs tried the same thing in 2013, and again LeBron had to dig deep and put together an epic performance in Game 7. You'll notice in those two games he averaged 40+ points and hit nearly 10 jumpers in each game but had only 6 assists. The teams they were facing were really trying to force LeBron to beat them on his own, make him uncomfortable that way because he wants to pass as much as he shoots, and it wasn't until 2012 that LeBron was really ready to do it on that stage. Since about 2014 the strategy doesn't work at all anymore, he just beats you in too many ways. You have to beat him with firepower instead, just amass as better offense than his team has and outscore him.



We clown him to this day for not posting up JJ Barea, truly the saddest Finals performance ever.
He did post up Barea on the first possession, Barea flopped and LeBron got called for the offensive foul.

So the second possession he was treating him with kids' gloves trying to figure out how to not get called for the foul.

And that was it. Two possessions.

Ya'all act like that's the "saddest Finals performance ever" as if Tragic Johnson isn't a thing, as if Wilt didn't choke in three straight Game 7s in a row, as if Larry Bird didn't average 15ppg on 40% shooting for an entire Finals, as if Kobe didn't go 22-3-4 on just 38% shooting (22% from three) in basically throwing away the 2004 Finals, as if Kobe didn't average 15-3-3 on 37% shooting in another Finals, as if Wade didn't average 15-4-3 on 44% shooting while getting destroyed on defense in a Finals, as if Curry didn't average 22ppg on 40% shooting for a whole finals while getting targeted by every single player on the opposite side of the court and losing a 3-1 lead....

The only difference is that you pretend to be haters but actually expect more from Bron than you expect from anyone else. Bron is the only one who has to measure up to MJ or he's a failure. Even Kobe, even Wade, were never held to that standard.




No lies told by O.P. That clown was scared Wade was gone get Final MVP and figured they would be back to the Finals next year and threw the series
He was "scared" that his best friend was going to get Finals MVP. Ya'all constantly say that rings are what is important, that losing in the Finals is the worst thing ever, and yet you claim that LeBron's best friend getting MVP was worse in his mind than losing.

Hatred is a mental disorder. :francis:
 

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I always felt like that because I remember how salty he was when Wade got all star mvp and then that vid came out of Wade yelling at Lebron. Bill Simmons was saying that was the exact moment dude checked out and it made sense.

but Im also a Dwade stan so I can admit Im just salty he got robbed out of another ring and mvp
 
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This. I can't believe people still run with this retard talking point that LeBron made himself look like shyt so Wade couldn't get shine. Especially when they Stan a player whose teammate won finals MVP three times and actually would have won a fourth if not for the aforementioned player's putrid play.
What does this thread have to do with Kobe? Why bring him up when this thread isn't about him?

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How the fukk does bron in his prime only score 8 points in a finals game playin with wade and bosh :mjlol:

This will forever be an albatross on this dude’s career resume and he could never be goat status after that shyt.


Winter isn’t coming for you nikkas :mjlit: the long summer continues...
 

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When Bron first went to Miami he was villain no.1. All the legends killed him, Cleveland killed him, other stars threw shots, fans across the world was talkin shyt etc etc.

Add to the fact that throughout the season ppl threw out that Bron was Robin to Wades Batman etc etc etc. Now I’m not gonna completely say Bron threw the series but given all these things it woulda been a bad look for Bron because it woulda confirmed the narrative he neeeded Wade.
 
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