Looking back, why jody breeze never pop?

[JustCKing]

we hating on Jazze now smh

I don't know how my post was construed as hate. Jazze didn't do much Hip Hop after 2005. Look at his credits. He has tracks on Buck's Buck The World, UGK's self titled doubled album, and Short's Blow The Whistle album, but beyond those, it's not much else.

I didn't even talk about the quality of his work, just pointed out that he wasn't as active outside 2005.

 

[JustCKing]

Jody was decent y’all acting like dude was utter trash. He got screwed over cause he was in a group that bloc and diddy used as some random spring board for Jeezy. And then Jazze Pha fakkit ass was too busy chasing tranny dikk to promote him

At the end of the day, Jazze is a producer first and producers outside of Dre, Puff, and Kanye really haven't really had a great track record at Hip Hop labels. How many rappers stars have come from these other labels? Timbaland had Bubba Sparxxx, but he had a gold album and his second album was much better, but flopped. Ms. Jade flopped. The Neptunes had Clipse and they released three albums under Star Trak. As hot as The Neptunes were as producers, Clipse only struck gold once. Their other rappers (Fam Lay, Roscoe P Coldchain) were shelved. Swizz had Full Surface and we only really got Cassidy, who had one gold album.

How exactly was Jazze supposed to push Jody Breeze to superstar status? Labels were still struggling to promote ATL street artists. L.A. Reid struggled with how to promote Jeezy and L.A. is a vet, but always had trouble in the Hip Hop market even when Kast and Goodie were signed to LA Face. Youngbloodz flopped under LA Face and they didn't do much for T.I. either. Shakir Stewart came in and gave Def Jam the formula. So when it Ross's time, they were good.

 

[The G.O.D II]

At the end of the day, Jazze is a producer first and producers outside of Dre, Puff, and Kanye really haven't really had a great track record at Hip Hop labels. How many rappers stars have come from these other labels? Timbaland had Bubba Sparxxx, but he had a gold album and his second album was much better, but flopped. Ms. Jade flopped. The Neptunes had Clipse and they released three albums under Star Trak. As hot as The Neptunes were as producers, Clipse only struck gold once. Their other rappers (Fam Lay, Roscoe P Coldchain) were shelved. Swizz had Full Surface and we only really got Cassidy, who had one gold album.

How exactly was Jazze supposed to push Jody Breeze to superstar status? Labels were still struggling to promote ATL street artists. L.A. Reid struggled with how to promote Jeezy and L.A. is a vet, but always had trouble in the Hip Hop market even when Kast and Goodie were signed to LA Face. Youngbloodz flopped under LA Face and they didn't do much for T.I. either. Shakir Stewart came in and gave Def Jam the formula. So when it Ross's time, they were good.

Chill Breh. Nobody is saying he should have been a superstar. But Pha didn’t even try and Breeze had to leak his own album. And it wasn’t like he couldn’t he had clout still and was coming off Ciara debut. He fukked up.

 

[JustCKing]

Chill Breh. Nobody is saying he should have been a superstar. But Pha didn’t even try and Breeze had to leak his own album. And it wasn’t like he couldn’t he had clout still and was coming off Ciara debut. He fukked up.

Again, Jazze was a producer. There was really nothing he could do to push Jody aside from throwing him on Ciara records.

And LOL, producing a successful album for Ciara doesn't give him clout especially when he was trying to push a street rapper. That goes back to my point about The Neptunes and Clipse situation and the Swizz and Cassidy situation. That success don't rub off or translate unless you're throwing them on songs that are successful.

Breeze didn't have to leak his own album. Breh was passing them out like it was a mixtape like right after it was completed. People here had Breeze's entire album in 2004.

 

[Alvin]

I don't know how my post was construed as hate. Jazze didn't do much Hip Hop after 2005. Look at his credits. He has tracks on Buck's Buck The World, UGK's self titled doubled album, and Short's Blow The Whistle album, but beyond those, it's not much else.

I didn't even talk about the quality of his work, just pointed out that he wasn't as active outside 2005.

not really hate just looked to as criticism.

 

[Alvin]

Chill Breh. Nobody is saying he should have been a superstar. But Pha didn’t even try and Breeze had to leak his own album. And it wasn’t like he couldn’t he had clout still and was coming off Ciara debut. He fukked up.

breeze was doing stupid shyt and was impatient, can't really blame pha even though I believe he should've been on bad boy south but that may have been a COI.

 

[Alvin]

Again, Jazze was a producer. There was really nothing he could do to push Jody aside from throwing him on Ciara records.

And LOL, producing a successful album for Ciara doesn't give him clout especially when he was trying to push a street rapper. That goes back to my point about The Neptunes and Clipse situation and the Swizz and Cassidy situation. That success don't rub off or translate unless you're throwing them on songs that are successful.

Breeze didn't have to leak his own album. Breh was passing them out like it was a mixtape like right after it was completed. People here had Breeze's entire album in 2004.

Clipse did good with neptunes, maybe not selling but they gave them great production.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Again, Jazze was a producer. There was really nothing he could do to push Jody aside from throwing him on Ciara records.

And LOL, producing a successful album for Ciara doesn't give him clout especially when he was trying to push a street rapper. That goes back to my point about The Neptunes and Clipse situation and the Swizz and Cassidy situation. That success don't rub off or translate unless you're throwing them on songs that are successful.

Breeze didn't have to leak his own album. Breh was passing them out like it was a mixtape like right after it was completed. People here had Breeze's entire album in 2004.

Bro he could have put him on any number of records he was producing back then not just her. And I don’t know why you acting like it’s some Herculean task to push a street rapper. You keep mentioning Clipse and Cassidy like they were on the same flop level. And Jody leaked his shyt in 05. The whole point of BITH was to push those guys individually(Jeezy and Jody mainly cause the other two sucked and had no appeal) That’s why so fresh dropped immediately afterwards but it didn’t get any real traction so Breeze leaked the album after it was shelved indefinitely. Now breeze was a clown who stayed in legal trouble so that is a factor but Pha failed him

 

[JustCKing]

Bro he could have put him on any number of records he was producing back then not just her. And I don’t know why you acting like it’s some Herculean task to push a street rapper. You keep mentioning Clipse and Cassidy like they were on the same flop level. And Jody leaked his shyt in 05. The whole point of BITH was to push those guys individually(Jeezy and Jody mainly cause the other two sucked and had no appeal) That’s why so fresh dropped immediately afterwards but it didn’t get any real traction so Breeze leaked the album after it was shelved indefinitely. Now breeze was a clown who stayed in legal trouble so that is a factor but Pha failed him

How many big records did Jazze have out at the time that wasn't a Ciara record? Only one I can recall are Nelly songs.

It was Herculean task to promote a street rapper from Atlanta. Just look at T.I. and Jody was buzzing a shortly after Trap Muzik dropped. T.I. wasn't exactly a superstar with that album, but it was big.

Your timeliness is off. "Stay Fresh" dropped in 2004. And he was passing around copies of his album around that time, which is how it ended up online.

 

[Ohene]

He never had "it" as a solo artist, largely because he sounded too similar to TI, who was on fire. That and he was completely overshadowed by Jeezy in the group.


Stay Fresh was dope but with TI already having "Let's Get Away," it only made him seem even more like a clone. Especially since Let's Get Away was pushed as a single at the exact same time and it blew all the way up.

He wasn't wack, just was in the shadow of Jeezy & TI and could never seperate himself. Him dissing Jeezy for abandoning BNTH events after the first week of release was valid but made him look like a crybaby, especially since Jody was supposed to be the focus & star of the group. Jeezy always stood out. Nobody even listened to "Dem Boyz" past Jeezy's verse, especially in the club.


Here is an example. Jeezy wearing black when the rest of the group is wearing white, making him standout the most from the jump. Nevermind he had "it."


As you see here, minus Jeezy they had nothing as a group. Jeezy didn't show up past the first week of release, has throat surgery and finessed Puff & BNDH for extra promo for him and TM101

jody was supposed to be the star??
jeezy always seemed like the frontman to me
would lead off songs and all that

 

[Alvin]

jody was supposed to be the star??
jeezy always seemed like the frontman to me
would lead off songs and all that

I would say both, Jody was on Trap or Die as well.

 

[Alvin]

Bro he could have put him on any number of records he was producing back then not just her. And I don’t know why you acting like it’s some Herculean task to push a street rapper. You keep mentioning Clipse and Cassidy like they were on the same flop level. And Jody leaked his shyt in 05. The whole point of BITH was to push those guys individually(Jeezy and Jody mainly cause the other two sucked and had no appeal) That’s why so fresh dropped immediately afterwards but it didn’t get any real traction so Breeze leaked the album after it was shelved indefinitely. Now breeze was a clown who stayed in legal trouble so that is a factor but Pha failed him

Before jeezy, TIP was the only trap rapper, Trap Muzik was moving units, had great songs and help establish the genre, but when Jeezy trap TM101 that shyt was a cultural force, no one would have foreseen that before Jeezy went on that run. He was a down south 50 with his buzz, TOD, Dem Boyz, So Icey only fanned the flames then TM101 dropped.

 

[JustCKing]

Before jeezy, TIP was the only trap rapper, Trap Muzik was moving units, had great songs and help establish the genre, but when Jeezy trap TM101 that shyt was a cultural force, no one would have foreseen that before Jeezy went on that run. He was a down south 50 with his buzz, TOD, Dem Boyz, So Icey only fanned the flames then TM101 dropped.

And to add to this point, Jazze had production on both Trap Muzik and Thug Motivation. Only "Let's Get Away" was a single, which was duplicated for Jody's "Stay Fresh" (as has already been pointed out). Maybe he could've pushed for Jody to be on "Bang" instead of T.I., but its Jeezy's song so he had final say.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

He def was supposed to at least have 1 hit album and be like Chingy

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

jody was supposed to be the star??
jeezy always seemed like the frontman to me
would lead off songs and all that

The history of Boyz N Da Hood is it was supposed to be TI, Trick Daddy & Sean Paul of the Youngbloodz as the established stars with Jody Breeze as the up & coming rookie. Lil Wayne was also supposed to be in the group at one point.

That didn't pan out due to label politics and it was supposed to be Jody, Jeezy, Big Duke & Trick Daddy. That's why Duke names them at the end of his verse on the original "Dem Boyz." Trick got replaced by "Big Gee."

"Cause me, Jody, Jeezy & Trick gon always ride"
- Big Duke on "Dem Boyz (original mixtape version)"


But since the inception, Jody was supposed to be the "young gun" surrounded by Southern vets and was supposed to use BNDH as a springboard. That's also why he caught the most feelings behind Jeezy basically abandoning them as soon as TM101 dropped.