Lord Jamar: Max B Woulda Been Next

[Wild self]

It's not opinion, it's fact. It's a reason why nikkaz like Curren$y and Wiz stan Max. Some people weren't meant to ride the wave, but those of us that been down from the start got to see 3 different eras of the Wave within the span of a few years. It's safe to say that without those charges on his head, Akon would've made Max an international Hip Hop superstar. He woulda been right there with Wayne and Kanye as the NYC representative instead of hov old ass still having to fill that role since it's hardly anyone able to.

If you listened to Max you know the type of potential he still had left to reach. You prolly just judging cuz he's a jailbird(I remember how you was in them Boosie threads) but you'd be surprised what type of talented people you find in prison. They spend all that time on their craft and end up becoming savants. That's what Max was to this Hip Hop shyt.

You may see one thing, and that is fine. It ain't blasphemy to speak out on music and its potential. Just saying that Max did his own thing, but wasn't on that God-Tier MC shyt that is the second coming of Rakim, in MY opinion. Boosie was the same thing too, but he came out of prison and ain't done shyt since, and a lot of his fans are let down by that shyt.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

You may see one thing, and that is fine. It ain't blasphemy to speak out on music and its potential. Just saying that Max did his own thing, but wasn't on that God-Tier MC shyt that is the second coming of Rakim, in MY opinion. Boosie was the same thing too, but he came out of prison and ain't done shyt since, and a lot of his fans are let down by that shyt.

Boosie is getting show money and put out a better mixtape than a majority of the bullshyt from this year and that ain't even his best work. Max didn't have to be the God MC or Rakim Allah, nikka he was Max B. You just don't get it, Max was unlike anything the game ever seen before. That's why it so many fake ass Max B clones in the game now. That's why I keep sayin its best not to talk if you don't know. I wouldn't go in a thread talking about hov's best albums cuz I don't listen to that nikka, moreover I wouldn't also be in that same thread acting like I know what I'm talking about valuing my uninformed opinion over those who know about the subject well. But that's just me. :hugoehh:

 

[playboyric]

WHERE THE fukk IS YOUNG LOS?

its like he fell off the face of the earth once max went in the can

 

[Wacky D]

@ this shyt. That is why you can never be any A&Rs

Saying that Cole is a nobody because he didn't do that ignorant c00n shyt that made Hip Hop into a mess, or have any nonsense street rep but speaks out on shyt that most rappers refuse to talk about.

Max B would have been a regional star and nothing much more than that. He wasn't gonna Young Jeezy the game.

dog. STOP BEING A TRY-HARD already with this wannabe political smart-dumb nicca gimmick.

nobody said anything about streets or anything of that nature. stop using it as a crutch for weak rappers. we're talking talent. you just dont know whats really hot and what people REALLY respond to. thats all. u mad cuz your bul cole aint got it, and all the labels are doing is taking advantage of people like you with dudes like j.cole cashing in. there was a whole thread about it, even.

and please kill the anti-street argument bullchit. my favorite rapper right now is currensy, btw.

i never said max would blow like jeezy, but to say he would have been regional is laughable when mad people from the south are running with his chit.

 

[Wacky D]

Boosie is getting show money and put out a better mixtape than a majority of the bullshyt from this year and that ain't even his best work. Max didn't have to be the God MC or Rakim Allah, nikka he was Max B. You just don't get it, Max was unlike anything the game ever seen before. That's why it so many fake ass Max B clones in the game now. That's why I keep sayin its best not to talk if you don't know. I wouldn't go in a thread talking about hov's best albums cuz I don't listen to that nikka, moreover I wouldn't also be in that same thread acting like I know what I'm talking about valuing my uninformed opinion over those who know about the subject well. But that's just me. :hugoehh:

i tell him the bolded all the time.

hes a fountain for misinformation.

hes like one of those nice guys that get punched in the face anyway for yappin out the side of their mouth too much.

again, nice fellow but he irks the hell out of me sometimes.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You may see one thing, and that is fine. It ain't blasphemy to speak out on music and its potential. Just saying that Max did his own thing, but wasn't on that God-Tier MC shyt that is the second coming of Rakim, in MY opinion. Boosie was the same thing too, but he came out of prison and ain't done shyt since, and a lot of his fans are let down by that shyt.

Nobody said anything about him being a god tier MC

Do u read nikkas posts before u respond to them

Max and Boosie are nothing alike, Max has been touring, recording and generally in local demand the whole time he was out of prison. What are you talking about???

I want u to acknowledge that u have no fukking clue about Max B's career, music or impact and apologize for wasting my fukking time.

 

[Wacky D]

J Cole is just contrarian. Hes against everything but he doesnt stand for anything. Thats probabyl why he appeals to you.

What does J Cole bring to the table that Max didn't? U probably cant answer as u have no idea what Max brought to the table. All u know is what u read here.

especially the 1st half of this.

 

[Wacky D]

Is there a arguably a greater hook writer in Rap during the mid to late 2000's, or even the entire 2000's than Max B, other than 50 cent???

max b >>> 50 cent

50 made too much generic music for me.

not saying he wouldve been as successful as 50 tho. that generic/basic game style of 50's had a wider reach. you gotta possess at least some sort of coolness in order to rock w/ max.

As nice as Max wasI'm not sure he would reach the commercial heights of French though.

french aint chit.

 

[Redwing80]

@Wild self gettin that work in this thread

 

[OneManGang]

max b >>> 50 cent

50 made too much generic music for me.

not saying he wouldve been as successful as 50 tho. that generic/basic game style of 50's had a wider reach. you gotta possess at least some sort of coolness in order to rock w/ max.






french aint chit.

Exactly

People TOLERATED French because he was making music with Max. Biggavel was who people was listening to. French was just along for the ride. He made a name for himself which is cool but let's not act like his whole steez isn't fathered by Max.

 

[aboss4real24]

Never shytted on rappers that are from the streets, just the ones that are not well rounded. Someone like Killer Mike is a well rounded MC that no one gives props too. Same goes for the suburbanites too.

killer mike is corny lol

 

[Wacky D]

LOL

You love exaggerated tales from your childhood 90s gangsta rap. It scares you that the "cornball" brothers are speaking something of relevance and having long term success but like the "cool" nikka that get into drama and jail like mentally unstable bytches.

Besides that, Max. B wasn't on that Young Jeezy or early TI shyt. Especially in that time period where people ONLY fukked with NY vets and southern dance songs.

what is j.cole saying of relevance that the same "gangsta rappers" that you despise havnt already said better? and like dude said, cole is just a contrarian. hes really not saying anything special or moving anybody except kids like you that are getting geesed by this new record label marketing plan.

theres a HUGE gap between cornball rap & so-called gangsta rap. but according to you guys, theres no in-between. and obviously you dont know what dude meant by "street" cuz street music doesnt have to be gun-bustin or whatever else you think it is.

kid n play, jazzy jeff & fresh prince in their primes were street music breh.

Be mad at the fact that the "boring" rapper is like 80% of the black kids of generation Y. shyt, you hate anything that expands on that mental slavery shyt that you love.



Nah, if anything, that street shyt got played out by Fif and people moved on to southern rap back in 2003 that led to Young Thugs being in the rap game today. Every action led to a reaction. People can't stagnate and listen to the same stagnant topics, WITH THE SAME RAPPERS, over and over again. The same shyt that killed "real" street rap will kill off this partying shyt soon enough. It's a cycle.

So who you never went half this hard for pro-black MCs that got shafted with the Telecommunications Bill back in 96?

Max B wasn't as talented as Stack Bundles or JR Writer. All he had was catchy songs and "swag."

southern rap wasnt selling chit in 2003. they forced that chit to the forefront in order to dumb-down the culture, and make the bullchit that we have in the mainstream now look credible.

whats funny is, the most successful era of southern rap was really the late '90s/early '00s. and they had way more food for though too, but ironically yall hate those guys on here.

and as for 50 cent, he was bigger than the entire south in 2003, so i dont know what ur talking about. and when he fell off, he was half-pop. so i dont see how him falling off had anything to do with this mythical fall of street rap.

and the street rap that you speak of will never die out. its only played out to people like you.

 

[Wacky D]

Never shytted on rappers that are from the streets, just the ones that are not well rounded. Someone like Killer Mike is a well rounded MC that no one gives props too. Same goes for the suburbanites too.

lol @ killer mike.

youre just throwing random names at the wall, hoping that they stick.

Stack Bundles is overall a better artist than Max B.

no the hell he isnt.

stack was a rolepayer. he was the hot bar & punchline specialist of the crew. that was his job and he excelled at it well. but i wouldnt bet on him blowing up on his own.

youre better off going back to the j.r. writer argument, cuz he was somewhat of a total package for a few years too, before he burned out. you couldve saved face by derailing the thread with that one. its too late now tho.

It's safe to say that without those charges on his head, Akon would've made Max an international Hip Hop superstar. He woulda been right there with Wayne and Kanye as the NYC representative instead of hov old ass still having to fill that role since it's hardly anyone able to.

ehh. theres been plenty of people that couldve filled that role jay is in.

jay kept that spot thru politics, blackballing and all that other devious chit he does.

thats the type of stuff that really killed new york. jay & 50 being the face of it. and since this is a max thread, im gonna give an honorable mention spot to jim jones. smh @ this predicament.

its like he fell off the face of the earth once max went in the can

dog!!!!! that avi capped my head up.

edit: and now i just realized that eric b's face isnt in the photo either.

 

[Zach Lowe]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/j-co...cluding-streaming.276290/page-4#post-11363123

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Rap is a black artform (sorry white brehs).... Max knew the importance of history and paid tribute to it in everythign... his name, his hooks, the beats he freestyled to, the constant evolution and development of his skills as a rapper and songwriter. These are the things that made hip hop great and he was IMO the LAST rapper to do it. No gimmicks, no forced street bullshyt, no pandering or compromising to the "mainstream".

But @OnlyInCalifornia wants rappers to do songs with JT and Katy Perry

Keep putting words in other peoples mouths and then argue with yourself, brehs