Lord Jamar names rappers better than Eminem

[Art Barr]

@Art Barr ASAP Rocky has made way better music than Eminem. How's that for "you must be technical?"

Eminem already made bone specific records in one try and on his first twelve.
that rivals whirlwind pyramid by the doc in biterphobia.

so, spare me the bullshyt about asap rocky.

you find consistent spaceghost purp biterfest enjoyable or good music.
when that shyt was played back in 1995.

art barr

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

2nd Lord J verse.

what does posting videos have to do with spitting HIS verses on demand??

what i'm saying is, if i asked everyone in here to spit a lord jamar verse, maybe 1 or 2 would be able to do it... and yet the second he started shytting on people and saying things people agree with... well now all the sudden he's some pioneer and worshipped as his word being golden

what if he was saying em was the goat and he liked iggy? bet he wouldn't be all this hype then

 

[Rakim Allah]

what does posting videos have to do with spitting HIS verses on demand??

what i'm saying is, if i asked everyone in here to spit a lord jamar verse, maybe 1 or 2 would be able to do it... and yet the second he started shytting on people and saying things people agree with... well now all the sudden he's some pioneer and worshipped as his word being golden

what if he was saying em was the goat and he liked iggy? bet he wouldn't be all this hype then

Those are well known verses to Brand Nubian fans. You came up with some arbitrary number/%. Dude has some known verses is all I'm saying. People may see Lord Jamar for different reasons. I came up on Brand Nubian so I see him as a dude from a legendary Hip Hop group giving his opinion. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Except, everyone he named has already said Eminem is the king right now. Plus anecdotal red herrings like "that's the O.G" are irrelevant, he didn't ask if you respected Ice-T he asked if he's better lyrically. Redman has already said Eminem is insane lyrically, as has Ludacris. No one has ever went as hard as say; Till I collapse, or Criminal. I would've said Gambino at one time but he relies on quirky one-liners whos references are lost in time.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I would make a list but it would take too long.

A few named off the top though...

KRS-One
2 Pac
Nas
K-Rino
Biggie
Big Pun
Scarface
Brother Ali
Big Daddy Kane
Slick Rick
Z-Ro
Chuck D
AZ
Guru
Common
Raekwon
Talib Kweli
Last Emperor
Chino XL
Rakim
Wise Intelligent
Pharohe Monch
Canibus
Vinnie Paz
Immortal Technique
Bizzy Bone
Fat Joe
Cormega
Kool Moe Dee
Prodigy
Havoc
Big L
LL Cool J
Slug
Queen Latifah
Tragedy Khadafi

And that's all I have time to name for now but a lot more.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Bit of a shock thread....People he named that were better than Em are well known or debatable.


Nas
Kendrick
Wayne
Redman
Lauryn Hill


But Snoop, Drake, 50, and a few others are just

Plus to say that he's just not into female rappers let's me know he's a fool OR needs to hear Jean Grae, Rapsody etc.

My biggest issue though is, hip hop purists, like Jamar, almost always raise the flag of lyrics being king. Then he says that Em is lyrical but then has other rappers above him that aren't as lyrical??!!

He's completely contradicting himself.

I think you're confused bro

 

[Ronnie Lott]

If you need me to extrapolate his statement on how Eminem can't be fukked with, you're either too stupid to realize or trolling too obviously.

Are you white

 

[smokeurobinson]

@WarIsDeception instead of being an intellectual coward explain your stance.

Lord Jamar is looking like a rambling hater. Explain what u mean by how me poiting this out is whats wrong with Hiphop. That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Nobodyknows]

@WarIsDeception instead of being an intellectual coward explain your stance.

Lord Jamar is looking like a rambling hater. Explain what u mean by how me poiting this out is whats wrong with Hiphop. That makes absolutely no sense.

http://hiphopwired.com/2015/01/05/royce-da-59-lord-jamar-debate-race-eminem/

I get the feeling that Jamar's jealous or something lol.

 

[winb83]

Guys Drake

Drake is the male version of Nicki Minaj so why is he getting compared to a pure rapper when Drake is halfway a singer?

 

[OPTiMO]

Eminem is a great rhymer. He has no worthy lyrics these days to be in the conversation of goat lyrically. Best way I could put it is like, he's an outstanding singer who is singing about nothing. I will argue his flow is top 10, but lyrically? Nowhere close

 

[winb83]

Eminem is a great rhymer. He has no worthy lyrics these days to be in the conversation of goat lyrically. Best way I could put it is like, he's an outstanding singer who is singing about nothing. I will argue his flow is top 10, but lyrically? Nowhere close

Honestly what are most rappers even rapping about anyway though? The vast majority of rap is about drugs, guns, self promotion / boasting, sex, women, money, or materialistic nonsense. How is Eminem rapping about bullshyt any worse than any other rapper rapping about bullshyt? Is it because he's not rapping about the same bullshyt everybody else traditionally raps about?

Eminem isn't a great rapper because he really can't put together an album for shyt. I put him in the same lane as Jadakiss, Cassidy, Fabolous, ect. These are all artist that can rhyme well but can't put together good albums. An artist like 2Pac didn't have half their technical rhyme talents and shyts on them because he could put together a solid album.

 

[OPTiMO]

Honestly what are most rappers even rapping about anyway though? The vast majority of rap is about drugs, guns, self promotion / boasting, sex, women, money, or materialistic nonsense. How is Eminem rapping about bullshyt any worse than any other rapper rapping about bullshyt? Is it because he's not rapping about the same bullshyt everybody else traditionally raps about?

Eminem isn't a great rapper because he really can't put together an album for shyt. I put him in the same lane as Jadakiss, Cassidy, Fabolous, ect. These are all artist that can rhyme well but can't put together good albums. An artist like 2Pac didn't have half their technical rhyme talents and shyts on them because he could put together a solid album.

Lyricism, like anything music related, is subjective and up to the listener. I put emphasis on hearing something that is powerful and may be able to connect with me when I'm listening to it. That's lyricism to me. A great artist like 2pac was able to do it all. He was well rounded in every sense and had the ability to connect with everyone.

As far as new rappers I'm the wrong guy to ask, I don't listen to much new music in general aside what I hear from the radio. But even these radio dudes have a time and place where I can feel those lyrics. Theres a time and a place for party music. Sometimes Em is just so off the wall its not relatable for anyone.

 

[OPTiMO]

Why in hip hop does lyricism = wordy; when lyricism in every other genre is based off of the power of your words and the story that you tell?

 

[SirBiatch]

Why in hip hop does lyricism = wordy; when lyricism in every other genre is based off of the power of your words and the story that you tell?

because hip hop is full of smart-dumb listeners. and the already confident/arrogant nature of hip hop heightens the smart-dumb ignorance