Lord Jamar: "White People Don't Create Anything"

[ChatGPT-5]

That I can't really speak on I don't know the history of many music genres. Whites probably created Country right?

No. There are none my friend.

Even food has a pretty scarce list. You lot celebrate thanksgiving for a reason (someone had to show you how to cultivate the unfamiliar land, and eat it's vegetables ei corn, the colony was on the verge of extinction). But I'll let you research that, this thread is about music.

 

[Lifer11]

Nah man, it was influenced too much by black genres. There is no musical genre you could list for white people. That's truth. Maybe garbage like rag-time or something, idk. Black music reigns supreme.

I can't and wouldn't even try to argue with that, the vast majority of my favorite music is by black artists in different genres, hip-hop obviously but also guys like Stevie Wonder, Bob Marley, etc. but there are great artists of all races like Sinatra's one of the best of all time.

 

[aRoMaN21]

The KING of Ragtime

 

[Swamp-Thing]

^

 

[Lifer11]

No. There are none my friend.

Even food has a pretty scarce list. You lot celebrate thanksgiving for a reason (someone had to show you how to cultivate the unfamiliar land, and eat it's vegetables ei corn). But I'll let you research that, this thread is about music.

Well I'm Italian, food is our specialty, so I can't fully agree there haha, but I know that even a lot of Italian food was taken from Asia. It's hard to say who created anything like that, but I don't identify myself with the pilgrims or any of the early settlers of America really at all.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Well I'm Italian, food is our specialty, so I can't fully agree there haha, but I know that even a lot of Italian food was taken from Asia. It's hard to say who created anything like that, but I don't identify myself with the pilgrims or any of the early settlers of America really at all.

I'm not going to get into italian food, it has an interesting history with a lot of other 'people'. This thread is about music.

I felt I should chime in because I noticed a lot of black people cosigning this bullshyt about, "we don't own the music, we don't own record companies", like some god damn stupid fukks. How can they own what is inside you? How can they own your expression? Your culture? They don't own it, they just sell it to themselves as merchandise, and you are jealous of that??????? HAVE SOME fukkING PRIDE. YOU ARE THE CULTURE.

 

[Lifer11]

I'm not going to get into italian food, it has an interesting history with a lot of other 'people'. This thread is about music.

I felt I should chime in because I noticed a lot of black people cosigning this bullshyt about, "we don't own the music, we don't own record companies", like some god damn stupid fukks. How can they own what is inside you? How can they own your expression? Your culture? They don't own it, they just sell it to themselves as merchandise, and you are jealous of that??????? HAVE SOME fukkING PRIDE. YOU ARE THE CULTURE.

I agree with ya that blacks are the culture (that should be obvious to everyone) and I'll also say that blacks have been the main force pushing American culture as a whole for a very long time now, so much of American culture just copied European life so much for so long, mainly the UK, and it took people with their own identity completely separate from that (old America/UK) to push the envelope, and I like it personally, white america was too stiff and too stuck in it's ways for so long besides a select few who had the balls to go against the grain. I do think that the really powerful moguls in hip-hop, Jay, Puff, Dre etc. should take more of a leadership role and take ownership of hip-hop culture more, but I think, and hope, that's where it goes next. Once corporate america thinks it's bled it dry hopefully it goes back to a more organic soulful feel like it once had.

 

[Renzo]

Alas the vulture tries to discredit everything. Yet deep down he is envious with passion. At one time jazz as jungle music, blues african noise, rock noise, now look at him as he wears the culture like a mascot clown. Techno and house festivals thousands deep with your people as the speakers pump the creation of a colored expression. I see you prancing around as if you created it. Rock, not yours, Banjo, not yours, even the very gun you love, not yours. You see, you are good with propaganda, but not very good with culture. It angers you, you will try to discredit it until you adopt it, and then it becomes a gem, ah you've conquored it, ah ha you have it in your hands, you wear its fur, but what you don't realise is...culture is not a product, it will be a forever chase for you.

Hip Hop isn't culture, tell that to the many white fans who disagree and love it. Those same white media outlets that know every well it is a culture and are actually upset that corporations are watering it's authenticity down. You are here, we are not looking for you, you looked for us. Hey, isn't that how the story has always been? Surprise. Your eyes are open.

damn..preach!

 

[mortuus est]

black people didnt create jack Daniels tho

 

[ChatGPT-5]

I agree with ya that blacks are the culture (that should be obvious to everyone) and I'll also say that blacks have been the main force pushing American culture as a whole for a very long time now, so much of American culture just copied European life so much for so long, mainly the UK, and it took people with their own identity completely separate from that (old America/UK) to push the envelope, and I like it personally, white america was too stiff and too stuck in it's ways for so long besides a select few who had the balls to go against the grain. I do think that the really powerful moguls in hip-hop, Jay, Puff, Dre etc. should take more of a leadership role and take ownership of hip-hop culture more, but I think, and hope, that's where it goes next. Once corporate america thinks it's bled it dry hopefully it goes back to a more organic soulful feel like it once had.

It's funny that you, a white man, can see it as clear as day, yet there are some black men that believe they have no culture at all. They are uneducated and believe the media when it tells them they are nothing, they've been antagonize into believing the the degradation. American culture is a hybrid culture whom EVERYONE contributed too, this is why I took offense when Rack tried to tie black americans back to Africa, you are not african, I am sorry, you are american of african descent. They don't know that they have put their flavor into every single civil sector in society even as recent as the Hubble Telescope (George Carruthers).
They believe white people created america, this is their country, they themselves and that they (blacks) were just the mere slaves, the dirt workers. Yet look all around you, and the signs are there. Look closely at the food, accents, music, swagger, dress cuts, the signs are there. They seem to think owning corporations means owning america. Whites do not own america, because the owners are 1%ers who so happen to be white/jewish, big difference than an entire race 'owning it', people fail to make the distinction. Bill Gates created microsoft, not white people, corporations/products are created by individuals, culture is created by people.

As for a black leader to take ownership, no one can actually own a culture, culture is not a product. The only thing that will happen, is the culture will evolve into something else, whatever the new genre or expression will be, one must be patient, wait and see, you can't rush evolution.

 

[aRoMaN21]

Do we agree about Music Notation though?

 

[mrken12]

i have more pressing matters in 2k8 to worry about...

But you still responded though.

 

[aRoMaN21]

black people didnt create jack Daniels tho

the egyptians created liquor

 

[mortuus est]

the egyptians created liquor

but it aint jack dan tho
a hill billy that couldnt read created the GOAT drank

 

[Lifer11]

It's funny that you, a white man, can see it as clear as day, yet there are some black men that believe they have no culture at all. They are uneducated and believe the media when it tells them they are nothing, they've been antagonize into believing the the degradation. American culture is a hybrid culture whom EVERYONE contributed too, this is why I took offense when Rack tried to tie black americans back to Africa, you are not african, I am sorry, you are american of african descent. They don't know that they have put their flavor into every single civil sector in society even as recent as the Hubble Telescope (George Carruthers).
They believe white people created america, this is their country, they themselves and that they (blacks) were just the mere slaves, the dirt workers. Yet look all around you, and the signs are there. Look closely at the food, accents, music, swagger, dress cuts, the signs are there. They seem to think owning corporations means owning america. Whites do not own america, because the owners are 1%ers who so happen to be white/jewish, big difference than an entire race 'owning it', people fail to make the distinction. Bill Gates created microsoft, not white people, corporations/products are created by individuals, culture is created by people.

As for a black leader to take ownership, no one can actually own a culture, culture is not a product. The only thing that will happen, is the culture will evolve into something else, whatever the new genre or expression will be, one must be patient, wait and see, you can't rush evolution.

Well said, yea man most people aren't able to look at their surroundings and draw their own conclusions.

And I didn't literally mean own the culture, I meant take ownership of the businesses that it's built, and no longer be exploited by people who have no concern for or connection to the culture. There may not be much of a future in physical distribution of cd's but years ago they should've come together to form a distribution company, an artist like J. Cole being signed to Roc Nation should never have to deal with anyone who is disconnected from the culture, eg, an old jewish guy who might work for Universal or something like that, Jay could easily distribute the music, and if he didn't want to take all the risk he could link up with Puffy and Dre and take all of the power, but like you said can't rush evolution and I do think the foundation is now there for blacks to finally take "ownership" of a culture they created and step into the role they deserve moving forward.