Low key, DMX music after ....And then there was x aged TERRIBLY

[bigbadbossup2012]

1.Yeah both were on Bad Boy, but like i said, both were Ruff Ryders managed artist. As was X. Puff got Mase & Lox from Ruff Ryders.

Yeah that is true but i dont see how thats riding their coat tails as you put it. Its not the same example at all.

2.Reason why people say it about Jay, whether we agree or not, is because of the sound/production he was looking for after X/Ruff Ryders got hot, who he started closely affiliate himself with & its not just coming from fans but people close to them (ie. Irv Gotti etc).

Who cares who they were managed by. They were waving that badboy flag and rocking shiny suits (mase and the lox) And they were signed to badboy records.

RR management wasnt some hot,popping entity.
And every lox or mase song that x was on was produced by in house bad boy nikkas.

He was marketted on these albums

 

[Tetris v2.0]

He's always had a really bad ear for production IMO

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

After his 24 Hours to Live verse in 97. And 4321 verse in 97. His name was bubblin. By the top of the next year when he did Money Power Respect and his other features. And released Get At Me Dog and Stop Being Greedy. X was that nikka starting off 98 fam. But love X got by the time he dropped his album was unprecedented. Especially after. And that wasn’t just cause of Ruff Ryders Anthem. It was a classic track. And nikkas loved it. But it was the other tracks on that album that brought u into his world.

He got his jaw broke in 1997,so that's must mean you were wrong about him walking through hoods not getting touched. #checkmate

nikka X wasn’t famous in 97. He was just getting buzz. Both Mase and LL songs came out at the end of 97. shyt the LL song was released in December. Which is why I said TOP OF 98 is when he really started poppin.

After he was popping,he got touched. He wasnt THAT nikka till RR anthem,like iv'e always said

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

After his 24 Hours to Live verse in 97. And 4321 verse in 97. His name was bubblin. By the top of the next year when he did Money Power Respect and his other features. And released Get At Me Dog and Stop Being Greedy. X was that nikka starting off 98 fam. But love X got by the time he dropped his album was unprecedented. Especially after. And that wasn’t just cause of Ruff Ryders Anthem. It was a classic track. And nikkas loved it. But it was the other tracks on that album that brought u into his world.

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It's pretty clear,what made dmx the don.

 

[Techniec]

I have a hard time listening to anything beyond IDAHIH.As far as being able to just throw on an album and let it play all the way through.

Most "classic" albums give you that.IDAHI is an "A" level album.I'd considered it a classic

The rest of his albums are "C/C+" territory IMO

Co-sign 100%

His commercial success run lasted a while but in terms of quality he was done after the first album

 

[spliz]

After he was popping,he got touched. He wasnt THAT nikka till RR anthem,like iv'e always said

YO I’m done arguing with u. Number 1. I already explained to u how he WASNT poppin when he got touched. Number 2. When X got jumped. It was a RETALIATION attempt. He got blamed for a robbery he didn’t commit cause he was running around robbing everybody. It wasn’t on some him walking around minding his business shyt. U are purposely misconstruing what I’m saying to fit ur narrative. nikkas coming at a nikka in retaliation doesn’t negate that they get love in the streets. It’s false equivalence. But u knew that already.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Alright a few replies. First @bigbadbossup2012 is talking a lot of erroneous bullshyt that i'll address here:

This thread is not about pre 00 dmx. With that said, dmx was "hot" before get at me dog because of mixtapes, hype, and cameos, was "on fire" when get at me dog came out, and blew up with ruff ryders anthem. I was 14-15 in 98 and bought every album of his on the day it was released. I was there. In 98 the only mcs as "hot" as dmx were master p, mystikal, and MAYBE bone thugs but not really. Mase, jay, nas (until i am came out in 99), nore, were all a tier below. And dmx "getting his jaw broke" not only didnt matter, it wasnt even news in 97. It had no impact whatsoever especially considering everything he did was bigger than what he did before from 97 on.

Now, other replies:

It's those Swizz Beatz beats that aged terribly

I somewhat disagree because the swizz beats on the first 3 albums aged fairly well with a few exceptions. His work after that was subpar with dmx to me, and his best work 99 on went to jay-z, ruff ryders compilations, and lox/kiss. He was overextended after 99 imo, and he had to refine his sound which he did.

Get at Me Dog peaked at 39 on Billboard
Ruff Ryders Anthem peaked at 93

Get At Me Dog is DMX's second highest Billboard single of all-time. Nice try though.

got em

The way the thread is title is confusing people to thinking the OP is saying DMX music overall aged bad but he’s just talking post third album.

I suppose it did but idk how i couldve been more clear

This is still 1 of my favorite X songs, and it hasn't age terribly at all

The video version of that is abhorrent, but the album version is alright...the song is offbeat and honestly annoying at this point.

This is how I remember it (I bought all of X's albuns the day they came out):

IDAHIH; Straight up banger, no denying it. Gritty New York rap was back and wiped the floor with that shiny suit shyt.

FOMF, BOMB; Not as good as IDAHIH, but still solid. Crazy he did both within 1 year, he did FOMF for $1 million through Lyor Cohen. Still the only artist to be #1 on Billboard for 2 albums in 1 year, 1st was his debut too. Crazy.

ATTWX; Wack. All the beats sounded the same, no growth in material, beats were some of the worst I've ever heard and considering what he achieved before, it hurt even more. I remember Kurupt dissed him on "Callin Out Names" a few months earlier and everyone was waiting on X's response. I also remember Def Jam released a lot of albums right around Xmas, Meth + Red, X, Jay-Z, Ja, etc so they ALL had massive coverage.

Every X album afterwards had 1-3 good songs but all were generally weak.

Forgot to mention X's mixtape/soundtrack/Ruff Ryder compilation run was unstoppable

Not a bad analysis to me, but i liked attwx when it came out, and dmx replied to kurupt on lose my mind...and killed him basically ending his career or at least credibility

 

[spliz]

After he was popping,he got touched. He wasnt THAT nikka till RR anthem,like iv'e always said

nikka. “Get At Me Dog” was a bigger song than “Ruff Ryders Anthem”. How the fukk wasn’t he THAT nikka till after? U obviously don’t know shyt about DMX fam. shyt. The fact that u also ignoring “Hows It Goin Down”. Which was also bigger than RR Anthem is proof as well.

 

[Ardamus]

i DIDNT SAY NAME ALL,NAME SOME.
And you were talking payola earlier.
So what are some payola induced forced hits by dmx (produced by swizz??
And you ,make no sense. You say it's not many,just a few,then say you can't name them all as if it;s a long list.
Make your mind up and then come back

Its ok, bro. Breathe. We can disagree.
I mentioned the payola thing because its true with radio hits in general. Now its hard to tell which hits got what. "Party Up In Here", its possible. That beat wasn't that great; it was upbeat but it sounded cheaply made. "Get It On The Floor" was a better beat and a better hook, still sounded cheap. But yeah, payout for promo for that single had to be there. "You Could Be Blind", not a single, lyrically was dope but that baseline in the beat was cheesy. I can say was I really was into the "Get At Me, Dog" style of production that backed X though. That was his pocket and then he got a lot of joints that were meh.

I just noticed that (a) you are having 2 arguments in this same thread and (b) you get negged a lot.
Maybe I should't continue this convo with you, you seem to really think Swizz and DMX never dropped a bad record. All good.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

nikka. “Get At Me Dog” was a bigger song than “Ruff Ryders Anthem”. How the fukk wasn’t he THAT nikka till after? U obviously don’t know shyt about DMX fam. shyt. The fact that u also ignoring “Hows It Goin Down”. Which was also bigger than RR Anthem is proof as well.

On the charts you may be right but RR Anthem established a movement and propelled the album sales.

I bought get at me dog single
I bought IDAHIH ALBUM because of ruff ryders anthem

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Now its hard to tell which hits got what. "Party Up In Here", its possible. That beat wasn't that great; it was upbeat but it sounded cheaply made. "Get It On The Floor" was a better beat and a better hook,

 

[spliz]

Its ok, bro. Breathe. We can disagree.
I mentioned the payola thing because its true with radio hits in general. Now its hard to tell which hits got what. "Party Up In Here", its possible. That beat wasn't that great; it was upbeat but it sounded cheaply made. "Get It On The Floor" was a better beat and a better hook, still sounded cheap. But yeah, payout for promo for that single had to be there. "You Could Be Blind", not a single, lyrically was dope but that baseline in the beat was cheesy. I can say was I really was into the "Get At Me, Dog" style of production that backed X though. That was his pocket and then he got a lot of joints that were meh.

I just noticed that (a) you are having 2 arguments in this same thread and (b) you get negged a lot.
Maybe I should't continue this convo with you, you seem to really think Swizz and DMX never dropped a bad record. All good.

The nikka literally said Swizz Beatz MADE DMX. That shyt is a joke. I would expect a nikka that’s 22 years old to say some shyt like that. Not a grown man that was around at the time.

 

[spliz]

On the charts you may be right but RR Anthem established a movement and propelled the album sales.

I bought get at me dog single
I bought IDAHIH ALBUM because of ruff ryders anthem

I already was invested into X by the time Ruff Ryders Anthem released. I’m not saying RR Anthem wasn’t big. I’m saying that shyt didn’t MAKE DMX. Not at all. Remember. Get At Me Dog came out way before the official album released. Ruff Ryders Anthem released as a single like a week before the album dropped bro. Lol

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I already was invested into X by the time Ruff Ryders Anthem released. I’m not saying RR Anthem wasn’t big. I’m saying that shyt didn’t MAKE DMX. Not at all.

Oh now that i agree with. 100%

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

shyt

Dmx made SWIZZ, not the other way around...dmx made swizz, jay, and clue? a lot of money