Low key, DMX music after ....And then there was x aged TERRIBLY

[bigbadbossup2012]

They tried to force Memphis Bleek Is... and that beat wasn't that great. I personally thought Jigga My nikka wasn't that great of a beat. Along with Money, Cash, Hoes. T.I.'s Bring Em Out. However, he had joints like WW III, Hotel, I'm A Hustla, Touch It, and etc. that showed his improvement and growth as a great producer. So calm down, I'm saying that in the beginning a good portion of some of the production he provided wasn't mediocre to weak and his strength in production showed over time. If you like everything he does, good for you.

But now, where I also give him credit, is when he did good with that 2nd DMX album. That track with Marilyn Manson was well produced. But shyt like Eve's first album, nah man.

So you dont believe any of his dmx hits were forced and you only believe memph bleek is WAS FORCED?

 

[bartek420]

DMX's music is timeless if only for the simple fact that it's essential Workout music

Your sentence could describe artists like Lil Jon perfectly but not DMX. To me personally his discography is much deeper than just pump up songs.

 

[Ardamus]

So you dont believe any of his dmx hits were forced and you only believe memph bleek is WAS FORCED?

Nah there were a few forced DMX hits I felt; he definitely rapped to some beats that didn't fit his style for real. Not many but a few. Can't remember them all.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Nah there were a few forced DMX hits I felt; he definitely rapped to some beats that didn't fit his style for real. Not many but a few. Can't remember them all.

i DIDNT SAY NAME ALL,NAME SOME.
And you were talking payola earlier.
So what are some payola induced forced hits by dmx (produced by swizz??
And you ,make no sense. You say it's not many,just a few,then say you can't name them all as if it;s a long list.
Make your mind up and then come back

 

[DarkmanX]

1.Laughing at Snoop and busta doesn't change reality. Both were legit stars going into early 1998.
Dmx was a guy that had potential and a couple notable features.
2. Maybe it was different in your town, but out here no one gave a fukk about get at me dog. No one has ever talked that song up to me in real life . People instantly loved STILL NOT A PLAYER remix.
3.Let's look at it
(and not's forget we're talking before RR anthem dropped,which dropped a week before IDAHIH came out)
Silkk

Rapped in videos for
"The Ghetto's Tryin' to Kill Me!"
(Master P featuring Silkk the Shocker) 1994

"Mr. Ice Cream Man"
(Master P featuring Silkk the Shocker) 1996 90 55 12 Ice Cream Man
"No More Tears"
(Master P featuring Silkk the Shocker and Mo B. dikk) — 78 15
"I Miss My Homies"
(Master P featuring Pimp C and Silkk the Shocker) 1997 25 16 1

• RIAA: Gold

"Ain't No Limit"
(Mystikal featuring Silkk the Shocker) — 63 — Unpredictable
"Make 'Em Say Uhh!"
(Master P featuring Silkk the Shocker, Mia X, Fiend and Mystikal) 1998 16 18 6

• RIAA: Platinum

"Let's Ride"
(Montell Jordan featuring Master Pand Silkk the Shocker) 2 1 —

• RIAA: Platinum

"The Shocker"
(featuring Master P) 1996 — — — The Shocker
"Just Be Straight with Me"
(featuring Master P and Destiny's Child) 1998 57 36 12 Charge It 2 da Game
"It Ain't My Fault"
(featuring Mystikal) 18 5 1

He was a prominent voice in TRU which just had their 4th album (double plat)
Had his own dope albums in the shocker and CHARGE IT TO THE GAME
.His second album did 300k the first week (feb 1998) IDAHIH did 250k the first week
with RR anthem out.

Mystikal was on


"Make 'Em Say Uhh!"
(
"It Ain't My Fault"
Plus other NL releases like

"It's On"[40] Steady Mobb'n, Master P, Fiend Pre-Meditated Drama
"What Cha Think"[41] N/A I'm Bout It soundtrack
"You Don't Wanna Go 2 War"[42] Mia X, TRU Unlady Like
"Who Got tha Clout"[42] Mia X
"Hustlin'"[43] Mr. Serv-On, Master P Life Insurance
"Let's Get 'Em"[44] Master P, Silkk the Shocker Ghetto D
"Captain Kirk"[44] Master P, Fiend, Silkk the Shocker
"Bring the Noise"[45] 1998 Young Bleed, Master P My Balls and My Word
"I'm a Soldier"[46] Silkk the Shocker, Master P, C-Murder, Fiend, Mac, Skull Duggery, Big Ed, Mia X Charge It 2 da Game
"How Many nikkas?"[46] Silkk the Shocker, C-Murder, Master P, Mia X

Plus dropped his own good album in late 1997 that went plat.

4. Yea he ended puff and mase eventually but up to RR anthem
his biggest moments were on their coat tails,appearing on bad boy releases. And early 1998 they were both waaaaaaaaaay bigger.

5.In 98' (prior to dmx's RR anthem),Jay had RD,vol 1 ,these singles:
"In My Lifetime"
"Dead Presidents" 1996
"Ain't No nikka"
(featuring Foxy Brown)
"Can't Knock the Hustle"
(featuring Mary J. Blige)
"Feelin' It" 1997
"Who You Wit" Sprung soundtrack
"Sunshine"
(featuringBabyface and Foxy Brown)
"The City Is Mine"
(featuringBlackstreet) 1998 52 37 14 — 28 51 44 — — 38
"A Million and One Questions" — — — — — — — —
"It's Alright"
(with Memphis Bleek) Streets Is Watching soundtrack

These Features:
"I'll Be"
(Foxy Brownfeaturing Jay-Z) 1996
Ill Na Na
"All of My Days"
(Changing Faces featuring Jay-Z and R. Kelly

"Big Momma Thang"[84] Lil' Kim, Lil' Cease Hard Core
"I Love the Dough"[86] 1997 The Notorious B.I.G., Angela Winbush Life After Death
"Young G's"[87] Puff Daddy & the Family, The Notorious B.I.G. No Way Out
"Cheat on You"[88] Mase, Lil' Cease, 112 Harlem World

"Call Me" Blackstreet Soul Food Soundtrack

But i guess x was bigger than jay prior to RR anthem




6. Funny,you diss jay and put him under X for "riding RR coat tails"
But place X above Mase and puff,when his only real moments were Bad boy coat tails before he got on.

7.Are you comparing Dame to timbaland?
Dont play yourself

How was X riding the Bad Boy coat tail? Lox were actually a group he brought to Ruff Ryders and Mase was also down with Ruff Ryders before Bad Boy. Once they got signed to Bad Boy - via Ruff Ryders - it made sense for X to be on their albums & all.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

How was X riding the Bad Boy coat tail? Lox were actually a group he brought to Ruff Ryders and Mase was also down with Ruff Ryders before Bad Boy. Once they got signed to Bad Boy - via Ruff Ryders - it made sense for X to be on their albums & all.

Both were on Bad boy. RR's meant nothing (at the time) and bad boy had just had their best year. Of course it made sense that he was on their albums. Bottom line is his biggest moments were on BAd boy releases,prior to him RR anthem/IDAHIH. Therefore ,he was heated up by them.

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

Yeah after his 1st 3 his albums sucked.That's common knowledge.

I don't think you'll find many arguments.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yeah after his 1st 3 his albums sucked.That's common knowledge.

I don't think you'll find many arguments.

Those are the best,his first three. But honestly,he never had a WACK album till "year of the dog....again"

 

[spliz]

So when exactly was he hot on the streets in your mind?

After his 24 Hours to Live verse in 97. And 4321 verse in 97. His name was bubblin. By the top of the next year when he did Money Power Respect and his other features. And released Get At Me Dog and Stop Being Greedy. X was that nikka starting off 98 fam. But love X got by the time he dropped his album was unprecedented. Especially after. And that wasn’t just cause of Ruff Ryders Anthem. It was a classic track. And nikkas loved it. But it was the other tracks on that album that brought u into his world.

 

[Blackout]

Albums may have aged terribly but his singles are still legit

I always felt like his attempt at variety limited him

He should of did mostly pump up songs instead of trying to add a lot of variety

 

[spliz]

Those are the best,his first three. But honestly,he never had a WACK album till "year of the dog....again"

X’s last dope album was Grand Champ. Actually I fukked wit Grand Champ more than The Great Depression overall.

 

[DarkmanX]

Both were on Bad boy. RR's meant nothing (at the time) and bad boy had just had their best year. Of course it made sense that he was on their albums. Bottom line is his biggest moments were on BAd boy releases,prior to him RR anthem/IDAHIH. Therefore ,he was heated up by them.

Yeah both were on Bad Boy, but like i said, both were Ruff Ryders managed artist. As was X. Puff got Mase & Lox from Ruff Ryders.

Yeah that is true but i dont see how thats riding their coat tails as you put it. Its not the same example at all.

Reason why people say it about Jay, whether we agree or not, is because of the sound/production he was looking for after X/Ruff Ryders got hot, who he started closely affiliate himself with & its not just coming from fans but people close to them (ie. Irv Gotti etc).

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

After his 24 Hours to Live verse in 97. And 4321 verse in 97. His name was bubblin. By the top of the next year when he did Money Power Respect and his other features. And released Get At Me Dog and Stop Being Greedy. X was that nikka starting off 98 fam. But love X got by the time he dropped his album was unprecedented. Especially after. And that wasn’t just cause of Ruff Ryders Anthem. It was a classic track. And nikkas loved it. But it was the other tracks on that album that brought u into his world.

He got his jaw broke in 1997,so that's must mean you were wrong about him walking through hoods not getting touched. #checkmate

 

[oO J Smooth Oo]

His first album is ok

Always thought DMX was an average mc

 

[spliz]

He got his jaw broke in 1997,so that's must mean you were wrong about him walking through hoods not getting touched. #checkmate

nikka X wasn’t famous in 97. He was just getting buzz. Both Mase and LL songs came out at the end of 97. shyt the LL song was released in December. Which is why I said TOP OF 98 is when he really started poppin.