Incels can get sex too
They can pay for it
They can target single mothers and low self esteem chick
They can fukk fat chicks/ugly chicks
They can go overseas and get p*ssy without opening their mouth
These are just the women they dont WANT. They want that 9 or 10 to WANT THEM back with genuine attraction but wont take the steps to get them. Make more money, increase status or learn game. Just whine.
Femcels can get dikk and relationships from any loser or simp but they dont WANT those guys. They WANT genuine attraction and committment from top tier guys. They just get dikked down and led on for years. They wont learn how to cook clean or choose the right man. Just whine complain and blame it on all men.
They both have unrealistic expectations without bothering to self improve.
I agree with you on the fact that both aren't willing to improve themselves, but I disagree that incels are in the same position. Women
know from an early age that they can get men. As soon as they start hitting puberty they
know that they have to do barely anything at all and they'll get the attention of below average-average man or a simp.
Men don't go through this same process(unless you have genetic gifts). So men learn that to get attention from women they have to be funny, they have to be clever, they have to have access to things that the woman they want doesn't have and even then, they can still not get anywhere. They have to sell her on a lifestyle. It's not easy, especially when you know you're competing against a lot of other men out here. Its easy for incels to get demotivated especially since the women you described will
still turn them down because they're holding out for the man that they've been told their whole lives that they're entitled to.
The problem that they both have in common is that they think a relationship will fix the problems that they have when in fact it will either change nothing or make things
worse. They do need to focus on improving themselves for themselves and eventually the people that they want in their lives will come into their lives.